Apple's 24-inch LED Cinema Display gets unboxed, sure is glossy
By Darren Murph 
posted December 2nd 2008 6:15AM
posted December 2nd 2008 6:15AM
posted December 2nd 2008 6:15AM
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Why is everyone pissed/surprised with the glossy screen? Isn't "100% style, 75% substance" Apple motto or something?
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I was in such a rush to have you all bask in my wit.
Don't open your eyes Marion!!!!
... shiny as hell but it is pretty.
I'm in the market for a new [headless] Mac, and a new monitor, but I will most likely get a Dell monitor. Not fond of the glossy screens (and the higher price points).
Mirror, mirror, on the wall...
What strikes me most is that 99% of those bashing the new dispaly are 1) either simply anti-mac and have nothing better to do with their day or 2) have not owned or used on of these displays.
I have the new iMacs, and yes they are glossy. But mirrors? That's idiotic. The reflection is an anit-glare at best. You only see the gloss when looking at the black frame at an angle towards a light source. I have lights above me, so there is no angle craeting a glossy screen. So unless you worjk 45 degrees facing away from a window, or on the floor with the monitor on a desk you will never see the dramatic engadget gloss.
Lastly, smudges? Seriously? It's hard to smudge a monitor *when you don't touch it*!!!! Ah, smudgy thumbs, just keep your loose didgets on the keyboard and stop complaining about smudge marks.
Inaccurate colors? I didn't know there were many monitors that can with correct colors. Maybe that's why they have those devices and programs for ah, hmm, oh yea, calibration!? If you are a designer then you'd need your monitor calibrated no matter how shiny or mac or pc your monitor is.
The anti-mac venomous rhetoric has really increased here lately, and it seems to have all started with the increase of Apple's success...
As a Graphic and Web Designer... one with actual clients... I can say this screen is no good in my personal experience.
The finger prints are set by clients, co-workers, and other idiots that touch your screen despite requests not to. They're easily wiped off, but insanely annoying.
And the glare is obnoxious. If I had a dark cube, I'd all for it, but with any daylight and lighting this thing is miserable. You can't calibrate for external reflection and this thing could only work with one of the hoods that we used to use on CRTs.
In my experience with colleagues and co-workers, there are very few working designers that favor the mac anymore and even less that favor the displays. They're pretty on your desk, and a great example of industrial design, but they're expensive, mostly poor performers and allow little to no real calibration and profiling.
Eizos are great but expensive and some of the Dells are pretty darn good, esp for the money. Apples are for consumers these days [far more lucrative anyway]... don't try to make a case for "real" designers using them, because we don't want to anymore.
as a real web designer with real clients, I have the glossy display and I love it. I use it in numerous situations and I have no problems with glare. I don't let my clients touch my screen.
Of course, I was designing web pages when the only monitors were glass...
I'll just have to disagree then. And as a graphic/web designer with actual clients, I love my screen and it calibrated quite nicely.
My light is above me so it does not reflect off the screen.
Most of the designers I know and work with all use mac. Those few who use a pc at work, have a mac at home to design on.
Expensive? Yea, compared to a bargain bin thrown together box machine made up of cheap, thin plastic. But when comparing materials, build quality, OS X, there is just simply no comparison.
So you stick to your pc, I'll stick to my only-glossy-when-dramatized-by-pro-pc-users iMac, we'll design for our respective clients and call it a day.
I like how all the connections are on one side of the new MBP. Too bad my DVI port is on the *other* side of my last gen MBP. Even if I bought the mini dvi to dvi adaptor, would the thing be long enough to route along the back? I'm telling you the whole thing sucks that it was built specifically for the new MBP. I'm sure they'd be selling a lot more units if the thing was a little more universal. I like LED but Im disappointed in this --- even though still really want one.
Good looks? Check
Good performance? Check
Apple impracticality embedded? Check
More expensive then similar monitors? Check
OK, I know this is going to get a load of comments about how the panel is PVA and not TN which justifies the cost, but the fact is PVA monitors can still be had for several $100 less. And you would never be able to tell the difference between PVA and TN anyway if it weren't for the viewing angles.
And by the way, why the HELL did they use a PVA panel in this? The only advantage it has is greater viewing angles, but stick a mirrored piece of glass in front of it and you negate that...
Its just so damned glossy....... Of course apple buyers wouldnt go anywhere else usually because itll throw off the apple centro look.....
I think this display would be great for consumers/ the odd prosumer in dimly lit conditions. But personally I think that as a primary monitor would kill my brain. Then again, I wouldn't totally object to having a nice shiny second cinema display to go with my matte display.
So, it's really a glass screen? Isn't glass easier to clean than plastic?
I'm scared to clean a glossy plastic screen, for fear of scratching it... but glass seems like a no-brainer!
Without actually breaking it, I can't be totally sure its glass but if you press your fingernail on the screen it does not squish the pixels so it feels solid to me. It is easy to clean (easier than matt screens) but does pick up fingerprints more. The screen is $100 cheaper through the Apple Education store.
yay..... oh, wait ..... 14ms response time? displayport only? i know 'its designed for a macbook' .... but seriously what a joke
If these had universal mounts on them I might actually be interested... or is there an adapter for such a use?
It is VESA mountable (requires removing the tilt stand like the other Apple displays).
I have to say that, when I first saw the presentation by Steve Jobs, I thought that this display was hideous as hell. However, as it turns out, when I actually saw this thing in the store and also in the hands on photo, this thing actually looks gorgeous.
I don't really care about the glare, however, can you please give me a cable that I can connect my old MBP to this display. I want to buy it, but I can't buy it. What the hell.
with all the crap that apple has turned around, they bring this amazing screen out...and totally redeem themselves...maybe.
Is the new LED screen HD