NVIDIA still hasn't gotten official with the
less-than-secret card, but it looks like China's IT168 website has already gotten its hands on an actual GTX 295 and gone ahead and published some early benchmarks, which now seem to have not so mysteriously disappeared. This being the internet, however, there's already been screenshots taken, and while the benchmarks certainly impress, they're also rightfully leading folks to wait for some slightly more official numbers. If they are accurate, however, it looks like the GTX 295 will trounce ATI's top-end HD 4870 X2 in a number of tests, including a stunning 100% boost in performance in Dead Space, all while boasting a considerably lower power consumption too boot (hence the suspicion). We won't have to wait too much longer to put things to rest, however, as the card is expected to be officially unveiled at CES, with a whole slew of benchmarks inevitably set to follow shortly thereafter.
[Via
The Inquirer]
posted December 17th 2008 5:44PM
ATI better hope they have something else ready to be on top!
Or undercut Nvidia by price cutting to hell
The general consensus is that it's two 55nm GTX260s on one card, and knowing that the GTX260s still aren't exactly cheap, I'd say seeing this for anything less than $650-$700 is unlikely. But hey, I've been wrong before ;-)
I will gladly take the latter :)
1. price tag $650
2. ATi releases 4970 X2
3. price cut to $450
4. ???
5. profit
4. People play Crysis
But can it play GTA4?
Seriously, it has lower power consumption than the 4870X2? Now that I want to see.
But can GTA4 run on anything? Worst. Engine. Period.
Honestly. Ugh.
GTA4 has an engine? , I always feel it is still running on horses. And I got a fairl recent machine and it only hits 30-40 fps, while Crysis runs a little above 70 fps. I think it's just a rushed game, and will get better in the next year.
How do you get 70FPS? My Q6600 @ 3.2GHz(Doing 3.8 soon) 48501GB gets only 40 and as low as 30 sometimes? What's your GHz??
48501GB?! o_O That's some amount, dude! Me droolz111one
DUDE! My BBQWTF887 gets 8923 Teraflops of pwnage, coupled with a 515kW power supply, beotch.
@ phanbouy fan fan
Ur m@c|-|1n3 1z t3h r0xxorzz!!!1111oneeleven
Teh 1337ne55 of this thread hurts my brain...
Yeah, I dont understand how that can be possible. Does the current 65nm GT200 use less power than a single RV770? Even at 55nm, that chip is freaking HUGE! How in the world can it use less power than the much smaller RV770?
No it won't run GTA4 as it has only 896MB, and that will be further cut in half because its SLi.
AG what?
P?
What the hell is AGP?
Oh, yeah like that old PCI but with a little hook... I remember that.
From the 90s.
I freaked out on the AGP thing too!
Really, is someone trying to bring this back?
PCIe had shot way past AGP and it is standardizing.
Some talk of a religious sect, who still develop USB 1.0 devices, use Serial ports and dial up modems.
Some say they go by the name of iCistercians...
I use serial ports every day at work! They won't be dead for a long, long time...
More than "like" PCI, AGP is a specialized implementation of the PCI bus.
@dan: You're not alone. When we received the very first batch of PS3 (Yes, as in PLAYSTATION 3) dev kits, they had a MASSIVE array of I/O options, but the only way to update the firmware and get the hardware to boot was through humble serial bus and a terminal app. This of course took a while because the IT dept only had a handful of serial cables, I think 2.
As quick as we are to condemn legacy technology, the dead-simple, "it just works" nature of serial will ensure that it is around for a long time yet.
ZOMGT! me three! Tee hee!
Speaking of serial ports.... They should make a new low-complexity direct-connection like the old serial ports, but give the damn thing a MODERN CONNECTOR! It should be about the size of FW800 or smaller!
"lower power consumption too boot"
I see a typo :D
That's right, it should be represented as a colloquial phrase by the indicative quotation marks, er go "ta-boot!" or "tuh buut" or some such thing.
I'm glad we have sharp eyes to keep us on topic.
Just joshin' ya man. It's almost time to go home...
I see a sticky keyboard. Don't eat apples and type at the same time.
But apples are delicious, and what else am I supposed to do while playing WebKinz?
Well now ATI are ready to switch the the manufacturing process 40 NM and the fact they're giving partners the chance to make their own designs I'm expecting brand new ATI cards in the next 6 Months that will kick ass. Not to mention they're gaining new partners from nvidia like XFX. I expect ATI cards to fall in price soon.
low(er) power consumption? Why would yo do a grilled cover but to dissipate an inmense amount of heat?
just my opinion
Same reason car manufactures hide their next year's lineup under black plastic for test drives - it let's us experience the power without revealing the design.
I actually prefer this over cartoon dragons, space-ships or not-quite-real buxom beauties stenciled on the fans. Simple. Elegant.
" cartoon dragons, space-ships or not-quite-real buxom beauties stenciled on the fans. Simple. Elegant."
Because you have your graphics card laying on your table for everyone to see..??
Cartoon dragons, space-ships or not-quite-real buxom beauties stenciled on the fans.
Hear hear. That kind of packaging - does it do anything for anyone? I bet most people who buy graphics cards buy purely on the specs. We don't need shiny boxes with horrible manga/poser mashup artwork embossed on it! A nice white box with RADEON 4870 written in 16 point Courier would be enough to have me foaming at the wallet.
For me, no huge passive heatsink, no sale.
These cards just keep getting bigger and bigger. They are going to need a new form factor soon. Either that or they will start throwing "GTX **0 compatible" labels on cases. This thing better be two 260's because its the size of the 9800GX2, which has dual pcb's.
I am also rather concerned about the size as well as the overall design, why is the outer shell perforated unlike anything we have ever seen on a video card, if it was really for better cooling why did they keep part of it solid so they could put the nvidea graphic there either its all for looks, or they would rather have their graphic on there than have a better performing card, am I wrong?
I probably should have looked at the other pictures on the source. Yea its dual pcb. I have doubts about the heatsink though. The fan looks pretty big, but im guessing this thing gets really hot, really loud, or both.
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-12-16/1b.jpg
The big question is - does it sound like a vacuum cleaner? I can't figure out why they don't just by silencers from Scythe or another company. Sure it can play Crysis but if you can't hear the game, it isn't nearly as fun.
Yeah true that, my GTX280 at 100% fan speed is unbearable, shame to, I get a really decent overclock out of it.
It almost runs GTA4!
Oliver - sorry to hear that, if it makes you feel better I hear the 4870x2 is unpleasantly loud as well. nVidia and ATI could probably get a huge discount on good coolers from some of the better manufacturers and this would make it so much easier than replacing the stock GPU cooler. Seems kind of silly for them not to pay another $10 on a $500 card to make it as quiet as possible.
If the benchmarks are continually that high, nVidia has a real performer on their hands.
Despite that, I'm an ATI fan right now. ATI's drivers are much more stable on Vista (x32 and x64), and in the bang for the buck department, they're great. I'm also one of those unlucky people to have a defective laptop GPU, which is causing me lots of grief (the replacement cooling assemblies and boards have issues after 2 months. I'm on my 4th board).
It looks like a VHS tape got riced.
You goodfornothin' kiddos!
Wasting all that perfectly good computing power just to play games.
Hopefully sooner or later some hairs will start growing up under your belly too.
you spelt "awesome" wrong.
What's up with the design?
It takes two PCI slots - That's fine
But why is the fan and outlet grill on the bottom PCI slot?
good luck getting airflow down there when you have your card blocking most of the airflow above and below.
its a dual pcb card, meaning that the fan is sandwiched in between the two pcb's (1 gpu per pcb). if you mean why the the fan sticks out of the bottom rather than the top, its because it would hit the southbridge/ sata ports on many mobos.
right, you're assuming that the connections on top actually mean that the board is *right there,* which isn't even necessarily true: remember, you can mount the connections via ribbon cables (which might be the preferred method here to save as much space on the board as possible; also, it allows for standard headers with multiple possible connection type determined at production/assembly time)
http://www.vadim.co.uk/images/9800BFGWATERuse.jpg
9800gx2 should be similar.
@'Awsomeperson'
Shut the F**k up, you almost make iEye and Fuzo look good, retard!
to boot, not "too boot"
Check this out
http://cache.baidu.com/c?m=9d78d513d9d437ae4f9ce3697c62c0161c4381132ba6a3020fd3843893732c41506692ee61680705a3c5776016ae394b9af121033c1450bc8cbb8c5ddccb85582a9f5442676d815663a20de88b182a9b66d618feae6afaa7b275c3f08992854353bd08437984fa9c5a77459730ed1433e1ac844b155c17a7ed3267f55a772a982146b246fbe6256e70c0ac9b0312&p=c0769a46bad811a05bacdd6f44&user=baidu
Finally a card good enough for 1920x1200 (60 fps at least).
This will be my future video card, no doubt.