You may have noticed that comments on the
recent Storm post have been turned off. If you're wondering why that's the case, it's because a handful of folks posting on that story are being rude, disrespectful, reactionary jerks.
To be clear, we can do that on any and all posts. Commenting on this site is a privilege, not a right -- and this is an exercise to demonstrate that. Lately we've noticed a lot of belligerent commenters acting like they own the place (the place being Engadget). News flash -- you don't. We love the participation and input from our commenters --
the readers of this site are what make it so great -- but when the normally intelligent discussion devolves into nasty, hate-filled rants... well, we have our limits of tolerance. If those commenters who wish to keep up this childish garbage continue, we'll just switch all the comments off. All the comments. Off.
So think before you type, and try to be mindful that the people who work here are human beings trying to do their job, not lightning rods for your bad vibes.
No words to express how happy this makes me...
P.S.
Anyone know where that picture is from? I swear I used to have toys or something from the series. What is it???
Same here...but it makes me wonder if you can really go a day without childish garbage...or what crazy person out there will make it their one and only goal to get comments turned off.
It from Dino-Riders, easily one of the awesomest toys from the 80s.
Dino Riders! Man I haven't seen that since I was a little kid. I use to love that show, and all the dinosaur toys.
Dino-Riders! I'd forgotten what they were called, but when I got those toys for my birthday... when I was 5 or 6 or so... it was one of the happiest birthdays ever.
I hope I can feel like that again someday...
(looks up Dino-Rider toys on eBay)
:)
I voted you up!
And I fully SUPPORT this post and the intent behind it. You whiny little bitches need to move to Gizmodo if Engadget isn't to your liking.
Engadget is getting puzzling. If they're referring to the likes of Clak, Phanbouy and (worst of the worst) Mr. Professional, that's one thing. It's another thing entirely to insult your commenting readership and chastise them. That, and lumping us into one big bad category. Big. Bad. Category.
If anything, this just empowers them more to see if they can get you to disable all comments. No offense, but I think just about anyone can call your bluff on that one. A blog isn't a blog without comments, sorry. The only thing childish here is giving those commenters that kind of attention and that kind of power.
Just remember that even though you're technically a "blog," you still are a de-facto source of tech news. Objectivity implies due course of dialog between readers, and editors (traditionally a letters to the editor page). Comments certainly are that functionality. Turning everything off only undermines yourself.
Although I personally haven't commented on Engadget's biases...I can see where a lot of people are coming from...
So when I saw this article I thought damn, I must've missed some hardcore racist, sexist evil nazi posts in that Storm article.
But then I read it and all I could see were posts calling Engadget out for being the tools that you are.
Is this really what you've sunk to Engadget? People call you whiny bitches in another article (which I disagreed with) but then you post this up AND PROVE THEM RIGHT!!! -sigh-
Hope Engadget authors practices what it preaches. Meaning no subjective 'rants' against products or biases, but well thought-out stories that people come here for.
Engadget.
You guys are great. Some of the featured posts and exclusive content you guys bring up are top notch (better than any other gadget site out there, to be honest).
However, you guys need to learn to listen to commentators. That's why comments are here: encouraging discourse.
As a blog, Engadget is entitled to endorse whatever it wants in its views. However, more often than not, Some of you guys at Engadget are putting a slant in favor of some pretty bad products (Macbook Air is a good example) just because you can. When readers call you guys out on it, you guys blatantly tend to ignore them.
Your readership makes you; your readership breaks you. As an administrator for a rather large Microsoft enthusiast site, I can back this up with a firsthand account. However, it seems like the near-guaranteed readership has begun to get to your heads. Readers will leave when they think sensationalism is creeping into blog posts, and that's exactly what's happening to Engadget, although with the added step of your readers letting you guys know beforehand through hate-filled comments.
This is what happens when you ignore feedback. Let it be a lesson to you guys to listen to your readers. Otherwise, I'm perfectly content with the "privilege" to leave a comment disappearing. It's not a privilege if there's no benefit. The end result is a loss for you guys at Engadget if you don't learn to listen up.
I hope you guys can pick up on this. It's for your own good.
-Bryant
@Bryant
I think you meant commenters as we are not commentators. I myself think that all negative posts that have nothing to do with the actual product should be banned as well as the semi-anonymous postings. But that's just a little bit of my fascist side coming through.
Great news. You should also crack down on those bastards who make unrelated replies to the first comment just so it gets read earlier.
Crap.
I must say, I'm slightly disappointed with this article.
Not for the obvious reasons -- I fully support the sentiment behind it. However, I read Engadget ravenously, and I was not aware of the offensive posts until I read this article. In other words, this article has created a story. Furthermore, the posts were made by apparently unintelligent (and nearly unintelligible) posters... credence should not be granted to those who so desperately seek a platform for attention.
Engadget has become incredibly successful -- this is simply a symptom of that success. I would expect this type of childish commenting behavior to increase, rather than the alternative. You will know you have reached complete market saturation when you are certain you have comments written by semi-evolved creatures from Pluto. (Simply look at YouTube for evidence.)
The standard Engadget article is clever, entertaining, and informative. It is also unashamedly written by people, as opposed to much news reporting which is written by people trying to hide their personal bias in bland language. This is exactly why people read the site, and exactly why the immature use it as a tool to troll. Instead of drawing attention to those people without appropriate personal pursuits, take their comments as signs of market penetration, thank your stars that you have this great platform for reaching that large of an audience, and forget it.
In summary: Engadget should not negotiate with terrorists. :)
@Izzy
Same difference according to the dictionary. I just went with the first word which I thought suitably described what I meant.
As for banning unrelated comments, who knows. I just don't want a system similar to what Gawker has for its subsidiary gadget blog.
I totally agree. I am always on the side of the Engadget staff and am very annoyed by the those Engadget Haters (I mean trolls) that hate the site and it's writers so much it just makes me wonder why they even waste their time here in the first place? And keep coming back.. daily.
Well this is really sad to see.. But I think if Engadget would close all comments, then they will loose a lot of visitors, because lets face it, some are here to only make comments (many of them being good!).. So since Engadget has such a big crew, can't you just get a couple of them to delete posts a couple minutes after the post is posted? Or add some words with which you can't reply, like Apple, iPhone... since those are the ones that start these wars.. just an idea..
Comments are part of what make a blog a blog. I looked at the storm article and I didn't see much of anything at all beyond the usual. I think this is just a virtual flexing of endgadget's muscles and nothing more...Although I must say this site likes to report about everything Apple seems to do, newsworthy or not.
Seriously engadget? maybe the "jerks" are right. dont cry about it, do something about it.
I think a good system would be.. to ban retards... really!
Let's say... well we already have a ranking system, and most stupid comments get low ranked all the time.
So what if like.. let's say if you get a certain number of posts lowest ranked, then you get like a temporary ban.
It COULD be abused, but as long as we the viewers/commenters do a good job of properly ranking comments,
I think it could work out to help weed out the trolls.
What do you guys think?
Bryant-
I logged in just to plus your post.
And to tell you I did. I couldn't agree more.
Ditto.
The fanboy/apple haters comments have become so obnoxious, that I visit enadget less and less, and just wait for them to release a podcast (which are surprisingly very funny)
Just shut it down. Shut it all down.
I couldn't have thought of anything prior to typing this post.
Am I getting banned? :/
@Ari:
Wanna bet? When I first began reading Engadget, it was during a mass comment freeze for the same reasons.
your going to turn off comments b/c of a few prepubescent kids posting hate?
I dare you. Unless you guys do this for free I assume you need some revenue. "privilege" are you kidding me?
Turn off comments and half or more of your visitors will migrate elsewhere.
Agree. All they need to do is just DELETE the lowest ranked automagically. So nobody can respond to retards.
And Ok, I must say, Engadget is pretty apple-flavoured which I don't like, but you don't see me squandering my diarrhea all over the site whenever I disagree on a fact. Just ignore articles which are beyond your field of interest and leave the interested people alone. It's hard to moderate... You have a ranking system... just USE it!
It's my assumption that the majority of the "hate" posts are from people that are desperate for negative attention.
Now they can really feed their need... "I took down the engadget posts!" me ftw!!111
Collective punishment might work in athletics and in the military but I think it violates the rules of war...
I still have these toys.. I saw the, the last time I was at my parents house! this is great! really brings me back.
--- Nice Engadget, my comment got deleted. Let me try this again . . . don't worry, I took out the word "douchebags" this time. ---
Josh,
I understand that you are a little upset, but maybe you should have sat on this post a little longer and thought about your decision to publish it. You have just added gasoline to the fire and made yourself and Engadget look like a bunch of whining tools. I remember hearing stuff like this from a kid down the street when I was 10. It went something like this:
Me: I shot you with my laser gun, you're dead.
STDtS (Stupid Tool Down the Street): No you didn't.
Me: Yes, I did. You're dead.
STDtS: No, I'm not. You didn't even have a laser.
Me: Yes, I did.
STDtS: No, you didn't. I am not going to play with you if you don't play right.
Me: Okay, I'll go home then.
STDtS: You can't go home. I'll tell my Mom on you.
Me: Uhh, okay. Tell your Mom. I'm going home to play Super Mario Bros. 3.
STDtS: I don't want to play with you anymore anyway. Go home.
Me: I already said I was going to . . .
STDtS: No! I told you to go home! Playing lasers at my house is a privilege not a right!
Welcome to journalism. Not everyone is going to agree with you. The mere act of writing is courageous.
All successful newspapers are ceaselessly querulous and bellicose. They never defend anyone or anything if they can help it; if the job is forced on them, they tackle it by denouncing someone or something else.
--- H. L. Mencken, US editor (1880 - 1956) ---
Maybe now we can finally put the HD DVD / Blu-Ray fanboy insults to rest!
Ha!
@Chris Martin:
I remember that. But I don't remember a whiny post. Engadget is a technology news blog. Censoring comments is one (albeit wrong) thing, but reprimanding us in a post is another, which has apparently alienated a lot of readers. We are all aware of the stupidity that runs rampant on this site. We are not blind to it. A post that links to the "problem post" and chastises all readers alike is distasteful, and frankly unprofessional.
You're right, we don't own the place; you can tell more and more that AOL does...
And here I was looking for an insightful topic about Dino-riders.
Nice pic reference with DinoRiders!
While part of me totally agrees with you (honestly I'm only interested in the Comment Royale when the Apple geeks battle it out with the Microsoft nerds), another part of me is saddended that the rest of us are punished because some people are rude and their momma's always told them they're special.
Apologies for the run-on sentence. Here's a Dino Rider Intro movie to make up for it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpuhLkh358Y
Honestly guys, the storm post was one of the stupidest, bitchiest "news" articles I've ever seen, and this post isn't making me feel any better.
Perhaps an audio preview feature should be implemented so people know when their comments sound silly?
That's obviously worked on youtube! Haha...
On another note, I think that after reading our comments, engadget just got scared that Verizon would stop sending them phones!
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well of coarse Engadgets just like any other business I'm not saying they are, butt hey could be getting $ on the side from apple. But on the most part they do good on most things and because nothing is pure is why you use more then one source.
@1234321
what's that supposed to be?
aside, i kinda agree with engadget that some comments should be sensored
but i also disagree cause the comments are what makes engadget engadget and not a random blog
myself for 1 read engadget to read about losers who want to be first, ask if whatever has any relation to the mba or any other apple product, ask if graphics cards can play crysis, can it blend and the likes
it's pretty amusing
oh noes! we made Engadget mad! :(
you lose.
that's a sick graphic
OMG guys do you see me? Im totally pwning that dude with my fricken lazer beam.
Pew! Pew! Pew!
Thier point went in one ear and out the other - I was too busy looking at dinosaurs with lasers!
Pew pew!
pew pew
pew pew!
Haha - brilliant stuff guys.
I have thought about this situation, and I do have a problem with the way Engadget is handling the issues of their commenting system, and I’ll attempt to address them here.
First of all, there should be a recognition that individuals who participate in online discussions are typically more daring and often acerbic in what they write because of the safety of anonymity - its social psychology 101. As a result, there will unfortunately be a certain consistent level of commentary that is rude, inappropriate, vulgar, offensive, and even hate-filled. In addition, there is the likely contributing factor of age and maturity level amongst the key demographic for this site. While I don't have figures to support my assertion, I would venture to guess that the majority of recurrent visitors to this site are male, between the ages of 17-35. That same age grouping in this case is probably technically adept, highly interested in the status of technology developments, and rather opinionated about such technologies. Given these assumed aspects of the prime audience, one can conservatively anticipate issues such as those which have occurred thus far.
Does that mean that Engadget, or that we as fellow site visitors should accept such behavior? No, of course not. Is Engadget within their right to dictate whatever policies they would like to enact at their site? Yes, within boundaries. That said, one of the extraordinary aspects of Engadget is the free-flow of information, and the lively debate that often ensues – putting a stopper in that process would be unfortunate to say the least.
My chief complaint about Engadget’s handling of the commentary issue is that, like the inappropriate responses Engadget (and we) so abhor, it is by its very nature, reactionary. The threat of ‘turning it all off’ if the ‘childish garbage continues’ is unnecessary, and infeasible at this point. We, as readers, can monitor and censor our own comments, but we cannot administratively manage others, aside from reporting offensive comments. It seems likely that there will always be a certain proportion of the site’s population that will not adhere to appropriate commentary. Thus, to turn off the entire commenting system would be tantamount to collective punishment.
Instead, I would suggest the following:
1. Create a clear policy of what constitutes ‘appropriate’ commentary by readers that sets out specific rules and guidelines.
2. Involve the Engadget community in the creation of that policy – get your rabid fanbase involved, it will promote buy-in and adherence.
3. Make the policy prominent, not simply shown once during sign-up, or a text-box that people simply click 'yes' without actually reading.
4. Monitor and police the comment sections continuously, yes it means you’ll need more staff, but it may be something you could look to the community to get involved with.
5. Be exceedingly consistent with your application of the rules and regulations as it applies to comments.
6. Rejoice in the fact that you have a largely healthy community that cares about Engadget, who wants to get involved, and feels the need to express their myriad opinions, right here.
Down in FraggleRock!
I wish there was something above Highest ranked.
This is brilliant, very well written, not offensive but sharp, balanced and has valid arguments.
Read and learn Engadget, I wish any of you're post was this good.
@ Felix
Engadget posts about gadgets, not social guidelines.
@luzzio
Felix obviously meant that he wishes that engadget's posts were as well written as fraggles, not on the same topic.
In the words of GOB, "COME ON!"
I lol'd at the dinosaurs. But seriously... I'd happy to see this. Nice, much needed pep talk for everybody. :)
ooooooooooo you guys got in trouble
hehe... sorry, but that was just so cute.
Dino Riders. I haven't seen that anywhere in years...
If we get Dino Riders pics every time engadget gets mad, I'm ready to pull out my expletive thesaurus. (no pun intended on the -saurus)
Great - now that Dino Riders has been unearthed we can expect a Uwe Boll remake in: 5... 4... 3...
I bet if you turn the comments off you lose at least 50% revenue. People come here to have conversations about the articles you post, if you can't deal with criticism of your posts then maybe you're in the wrong business. You won't disable comments, ranting fanboys are the reason you have a job at all.
ranting fanboys =/= disrespectful jerk offs who throw temper tantrums when stories aren't reported the way they like.
don't make the beast angry... he might just use his laser beams on you.
exactly they go on and on about how it is "there" site but without us they would be shut down by aol. ( i would also loose my source for making fun of trolls and gaining teh internets high points)
Untrue. Over the years we've turned the comments off a number of times when there became too much noise, spam, or simply too many douchebags to tolerate. I wouldn't call that bluff.
No it won't... they won't lose a penny. They're far too established at this point. Besides, where exactly do you get your figures from? Thin air? All that will happen if all the jerks and dummies leave is that intelligent and mature posters will be more attracted (or drawn to begin with) to this place.
I'd say, go ahead and turn comments off. Turn them off for a week. It would do this place some good.
Well if me "calling your bluff" would actually cause you to turn off commenting, then you might want to consider a new business model. All I know is that I come to this site because I like the articles, but more so because I like how people react to the articles. I think I learn more from the comments than I do from the actual articles. So if you do turn off the comments, I think I would find a different site to get my gadget info from, there are a few of them out there. That's just me and I know I don't matter much, but I might as well let my voice be heard before you silence it.
@Patriotsn1
You won't be missed.
These are the types of things that need to be done once in awhile. A single person saying, "I'll leave!" means nothing when those truly in charge finally reach the point that they feel the need to defend the landscape and keep it from deteriorating. That's called management, and that's life.
Too many people act like spoiled little twits here with an over-inflated sense of entitlement (when they own nothing) and need to grow up.
How do you know I won't be missed? That's pretty arrogant.
I completely agree. I come here to read the comments more than the articles as well.
Besides, I think Engadget has to accept that it is being too loyal to Apple. Maybe the comments were rude, but there's a reason why those comments were posted in the first place.
Also, this article is written with a very arrogant tone.
Seriously, you won't be missed. Everyone agrees.
"Maybe the comments were rude, but there's a reason why those comments were posted in the first place."
Yeah, there's a reason for everything under the sun. What else is new in life? Just because Engadget likes Apple or likes this or that - we all have something we like - doesn't mean that it's reason for people to act like jerks. Engadget's likes don't serve as license or excuse for people to brush aside accountability and say whatever they want. You can't do that in life, you can't do it online. Don't like it? Leave.
I'd guess that most of the people who come to this site never read the comments. I check Engadget several times a day, and I think I only look at the comments for about 10% of the posts.
Guys the comment system is one of my favorite things about coming here. Its why I signed up. Engadget readers are generally more mature and intelligent than in most other parts of the internets. Read: Youtube comments .
There are some hilarious people here. Its a great part of the blog.
and since we are taking it back to the 80's and 90's for 2009:
An epic image for this post would of been one from the 90's cartoon "stone protectors"
No they don't all agree SimonRichards and he spoke about himself and inferred he might not be alone in his view (with a guess at roughly 50% support), whereas the people that speak against him act like they represent everybody (with 99.99% support), so who's the vain one ask yourself.
If you look at their traffic stats from Alexa, you'll see that Engadget.com has lost a substantial amount of readership since mid year, down 50% from their average, and 75% from their peak. The editors should take that as a sign that treating *your readers* with such disrespect is not a good business practice. I've seen them directly call readers idiots for pointing out product favoritism, and banning them for pointing out their own errors. Shame on you, not your customers.
I am just commenting on this particular thread of comments because Ryan Block has commented, and I just want to let you know, Ryan, that I like you. You're a straight shooter; you don't use any sideways language. I admire your directness. And also your name, but that's beside the point. I'm just saying, keep it up.
Whoa, the internet talked back! Wait, there are HUMAN BEINGS on the other side of this thing!?
Well played. My favorite part of this irony? They left comments on in this article.
Not to be argumentative but could you actually LINK to the 'hate filled' comments...I've read all 85 of them and don't see any that I'd consider 'hate filled'.
dude, are you serious?
Yes. They are argumentative and question Engadget's motives but I don't see any that would be deemed hate.
i think referring to the editors as whiny bitches in numerous posts was pretty hateful.
3 out of 85 comments used the term 'bitches'...not once was it directed at the author of the article but towards Engadget as a whole...obviously an overstatement but hardly 'hate filled'.
I've noticed the AOL blogs getting more snarky and sarcastic in their writing style over the last half year (perhaps competing with certain Gawker blogs?) so is it really surprising that their readership would start to be snarky and sarcastic in their commentary?
You reap what you sow or something like that.
Agreed.
I didn't bother clicking on that article until seeing this one and when I went back all I could think was, "So what?" On any given article, the whole "bash apple, bash apple bashers, bash engadget" -meme gets played out pretty much the same way every time. So why the focus on this particular article? Holiday blues?
Plenty of other articles have gotten much more hate-filled invective than this one, with those comments directed straight at individuals and with much more acrimony than what I saw just now.
Um, what? It was bad. I've never heard the term "whiney bitches" thrown around so carelessly. It was bad enough for Block to chime in..
I'd be pretty let down if you blocked all commenting privledges. If people wanna act like twats, ban those people. That said, I didnt see the Storm post comments.
Wow. That brings me back........
"Look you little motherfuckers.. If you don't calm down back there and stop touching each other I will crash this car into the next overpass so help me GOD!!!!!"
Good Memories :)
On another note, I had not seen the comments, but much like my own Dad it must of got pretty bad to have the car pulled over and the beatings commenced.
Well, esentially most of the posts on that particular article (which, I must add, was rather knee-jerk anyway) were commenting on how Engadget are fastidiously writing anti-everything-but-apple knee-jerk posts.
I miss the High5 picture. This one works out well, though. That's a picture of the future if those of you intend to be abusive buttclowns. Do you REALLY want to run from Volcanos AND mecha-dinosaurs? Seriously!
reading the comments on this website is what I look forward to reading the most lol
I'm not trying to defend anyone here, but sometimes your posts also look like hate-filled rants...
It's all in your mind. Don't like the post? Continue your Internet wanderings with minimal hootin' and hollerin'. Makes everyone's lives easier.
To Engadget, thank you; many of your readers were waiting for this. One specific problem, the fabricated "Apple lover" tag being shoved down all of your throats, has gotten very irritating of late. You run a private website, I wonder why you don't lay down the law more often.
I love engadget.
I really don't like to start a flame war here or something, I'm sorry for posting a comment that you didn't like.
Perhaps this is another scenario where having a rank this Post/Story would make sense.
Honestly, I've seen a few people mention it in the past, and I think it's a great idea. If we can rank each other up and down, why can't we rank posts/stories up and down when news is getting ridiculous? It's like a passive kind of feedback that is entirely unhateful (let the high/low status of the post dictate what your writers should be feeling/thinking, instead of a few attention-grabbing posters), and really gives you the opportunity for some statistically-rooted feedback.
It's win-win. Then you can censor/validate comments, *and* remain objective (by allowing anyone to give you feedback on good/bad stories, instantly). You'd be the first blog of that nature, too...
@ducky
Follow your own advise and if you dont like what someone says in a comment keep on scrolling through.
Comments are here for readers to voice their opinions about the articles and gadgets/tech news in them. If people think engadget is being bias then as i believe they can be from time to time then why shouldnt they get called out in hopes of letting the writers know how we feel.
Ive seen many times where people should have been banned for saying things and havent been so writing an article about them not liking to get called out on bias and mistakes is childish. Take your criticism and learn from it, dont cry and threaten your loyal readers.
@James, the key word there is "from time to time."
Of course it's appropriate for readers to voice their opinions. But not so much when every single cellphone-related comment thread has people forcing the Apple crap on the writers. Search the last two weeks of cellphone threads on Engadget and I'm sure you'll agree. It's to the point where people get lowest-ranked just for praising whatever the article's talking about. It's completely out of hand.
When it gets to a certain point, it becomes tedious and decreases the overall value of the site. Which is all they're trying to avoid here.
I have to agree. I am one of those people that tend to take what Engadget says with a grain of salt, at least on some topics. I do the same for the other sites I visit like PS3Fanboy, Joystiq, 1up, IGN, MAKE, and so on. That is why I siad in my last comment I tend to only post replies to the contests, because when I don't agree with a certain topic or point of view I just ignore it. This IS a private site, it is a blog and will always lean towards whatever favorites the writers/editors tend to have.
Of couse the flip side is that THIS IS A BLOG. If Engadget wishes to turn off the comments system so they can rant and rave all they want in a public forum without fear of judgement, then so be it. I will continue to do what I always do, and that is to get my info from multiple sources and make MY OWN educated opinion on any given topic. Turning off comments will not kill this site, but as the commenters have obviously made apparent, many visitors come here because they like to comment. Engadget will see a slight dip in traffic, but it won't be anything to worry about.
The main problem is that Engadget wants to have its cake and eat it too... I guess would be the way to put it. They shove the the fact down our throat that they are a private blog and tell us about all the "privileges" they can take away from us whenever it suits them best. Yet they fail to accept and admit the fact that they are indeed human, and hold a bias toward certain topics/products/companies. It has got to be one or the other, either be a fully pledged news site, or an opinionated blog... don't try to pick and choose from both and expect everyone to be fine with it. I believe it is your indecision as a whole that tends to frustrate a lot (but not most) of your readership, and hopefully Engadget can find a balance somewhere.
As for the "trolls" that make everyone so mad here, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ENGADGET! I could care less if what you decide is to get rid of comments, if it works then great, problem solved. But if you choose to leave us our "privilege" of commenting on your articles, then you need to accept your "responsibility" to monitor said feature and nip these problems in the bud before you end up having to punish everyone for the actions of a few. If there are a few members that are bugging you then ban them, simple as that, but sitting on your laurels and allowing your anger and frustration grow to the point where you feel the need to chastise all of us is unacceptable. We shouldn't be held responsible for you inaction.
Bottom line: If you keep the comments on, them do your job and moderate them! If that is too hard for you then just turn them off, and make your lives much simpler and happier.
Yeah! There's no reason people should get mad.. It's just words.. info at that.. useful info..
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