Windows 7 so far is ok, but man, at home on my laptop, Nvidia drivers Bue Screened the system and Sprint EVDO won't work. I am going to dual boot it heat at work to test (I am a System Admin) and hopefully it will not be like that. Maybe the laptop (and HP, which if all drivers aren't installed some system hardware never works right) is not a good starting place to test. But one thing that really isn't cool, is no Classic Start menu. Microsoft keeps saying "I am a PC", well then why make your OS like OS X and Linux in look? It did run faster, so that is a REALLY nice plus. Hopefully more customizations come later on.
Did you provide feedback on the lack of Classic Start Menu? I'm assuming they are listening to feedback requests, though I'm not keeping my hopes up.
The one thing I notice with Win7 is that it's hard to get it out of your way when you work. You can't minimalize it and remove all the fluff and features that get in your way.
I don't understand the love of the old start menu. It's basically just the same as the new one, but with all the useful new features removed. I know a few people who complain incessantly that every version of WIndows since 2000 hasn't offered anything new, but the first thing they do when they install an os is go and turn off all the new stuff!
"I know a few people who complain incessantly that every version of WIndows since 2000 hasn't offered anything new, but the first thing they do when they install an os is go and turn off all the new stuff!" Because the new stuff gets in the way... and if I had my way, there's wouldn't be a new Windows. Just additions to Windows 2000 to make it easier for new computer users. Microsoft hasn't evolve their OS, they up and change it.
"Can you give specific examples of "fluff" that gets in your way when you try to work?"
The back/forward/location/search bar (Why do I need this? If the tree view wasn't gimped...) The "Organize" bar (it used to be in the properties menu, now the menus are hidden unless you turn them back on) The lack of lines in tree view and the "disappearing" +/- icons in the tree view (it allows you to see at a glance which folders have children and removing the lines makes it difficult to see folder relationships on deeply nested folder views like source code, assets, media, etc.) The added (seemingly useless) margin space in the tree view that makes viewing file trees and moving files around more difficult because you can't fit as much information on the screen at once. The obscuring of File Explorer functionality The needlessly large Start Menu Libraries Loss of the ability to "menu-ize" the quick launch bar. I used this excessively to separate tools into categories using Quick launch... which is why the new Start Menu bugs me so much with it's lack of customization options. I don't want Games, but I'd love to be able to add Utilities\Network Tools or Utilities\Hard Drive Tools ... etc.
if you played around with it a bit you would know that can all be done in the start menu options. Also from what I can remember, you can still menu-ize too.
I did play around a little and from what I can tell, the Games, etc. are all predefine menu options. If you go into the advanced preference "checkbox alley" you can choose to turn them on or off, but I didn't see a spot to add any. I also cannot find a way to remove the "search" list from the menu.
I'm at work right now, but I thought those steps take you to the checklist of items to turn on or off. Does it actually give you the ability to add menus and remove the search?
@nerdtalker: So, I'm wondering if you could point me to the setting to remove the X'd areas in the following picture as well as the option to add folder to the right pane and remove the image...
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Windows 7 so far is ok, but man, at home on my laptop, Nvidia drivers Bue Screened the system and Sprint EVDO won't work. I am going to dual boot it heat at work to test (I am a System Admin) and hopefully it will not be like that. Maybe the laptop (and HP, which if all drivers aren't installed some system hardware never works right) is not a good starting place to test. But one thing that really isn't cool, is no Classic Start menu. Microsoft keeps saying "I am a PC", well then why make your OS like OS X and Linux in look? It did run faster, so that is a REALLY nice plus. Hopefully more customizations come later on.
Did you provide feedback on the lack of Classic Start Menu? I'm assuming they are listening to feedback requests, though I'm not keeping my hopes up.
The one thing I notice with Win7 is that it's hard to get it out of your way when you work. You can't minimalize it and remove all the fluff and features that get in your way.
Not being online with EVDO, I couldn't click the feedback thing! I guess I could have done it in Vista, just got tired of messing with it.
Can you give specific examples of "fluff" that gets in your way when you try to work?
I don't understand the love of the old start menu. It's basically just the same as the new one, but with all the useful new features removed. I know a few people who complain incessantly that every version of WIndows since 2000 hasn't offered anything new, but the first thing they do when they install an os is go and turn off all the new stuff!
"I know a few people who complain incessantly that every version of WIndows since 2000 hasn't offered anything new, but the first thing they do when they install an os is go and turn off all the new stuff!"
Because the new stuff gets in the way... and if I had my way, there's wouldn't be a new Windows. Just additions to Windows 2000 to make it easier for new computer users. Microsoft hasn't evolve their OS, they up and change it.
"Can you give specific examples of "fluff" that gets in your way when you try to work?"
The back/forward/location/search bar (Why do I need this? If the tree view wasn't gimped...)
The "Organize" bar (it used to be in the properties menu, now the menus are hidden unless you turn them back on)
The lack of lines in tree view and the "disappearing" +/- icons in the tree view (it allows you to see at a glance which folders have children and removing the lines makes it difficult to see folder relationships on deeply nested folder views like source code, assets, media, etc.)
The added (seemingly useless) margin space in the tree view that makes viewing file trees and moving files around more difficult because you can't fit as much information on the screen at once.
The obscuring of File Explorer functionality
The needlessly large Start Menu
Libraries
Loss of the ability to "menu-ize" the quick launch bar. I used this excessively to separate tools into categories using Quick launch... which is why the new Start Menu bugs me so much with it's lack of customization options. I don't want Games, but I'd love to be able to add Utilities\Network Tools or Utilities\Hard Drive Tools ... etc.
if you played around with it a bit you would know that can all be done in the start menu options. Also from what I can remember, you can still menu-ize too.
I did play around a little and from what I can tell, the Games, etc. are all predefine menu options. If you go into the advanced preference "checkbox alley" you can choose to turn them on or off, but I didn't see a spot to add any. I also cannot find a way to remove the "search" list from the menu.
@Andir
Your tree-view problems I can't help you with. Honestly, I like what they've done.
However, for the start menu:
Right click on the task bar -> Properties -> Start Menu -> Customize (Customize to your heart's delight)
I'm at work right now, but I thought those steps take you to the checklist of items to turn on or off. Does it actually give you the ability to add menus and remove the search?
@nerdtalker: So, I'm wondering if you could point me to the setting to remove the X'd areas in the following picture as well as the option to add folder to the right pane and remove the image...