We just saw Toshiba's newest,
Snapdragon boasting, offering -- the TG01 --
bust onto the scene, and now we're catching some demo action, too. We're not really expecting to get any alone time with the device until it's unveiled at
MWC in Barcelona, so Slashgear's impressions will have to do for now. They seem pretty satisfied overall with the GUI, are "not convinced" about the device's resistive touchscreen's (and lack of buttons) potential for gaming, but the 1GHz CPU and 800 x 400 display seem to impress. The screen looks pretty frustrating to use, but check the GUI video demo after the break for yourself, and hit the read link for two other, in-depth peeks.
posted Feb 3rd 2009 12:17PM
I wonder how much it'll cost. I'm contemplating getting a new phone to replace my iPhone, but whats easier than just connecting and letting iTunes do the rest. Curse my laziness!
You aren't a true nerd unless you do everything with command line.
Well I believe life is like a basketball. It keeps bouncing until it deflates.
I believe opinions are like asshole's, everybody got one.
Kobe Bryant, your comments are as irrelevant as your career.
Too bad it's running Windows Mobile. I'm a software developer so I naturally love the fact that you can do basically _anything_ in Windows Mobile but it has so many buggy things about that I wish it would either die to upgrade as soon as possible. I'm still annoyed that when I locked my Treo 800w, pressing hardware buttons still open up applications.
at least windows mobile is not locked down or requires jail broken service
You're a software developer?
Try this software developer, go to Start -> Settings -> System Tab -> Key Lock
When device is off:
Lock all buttons except Power button
Lock buttons if device is locked
No not lock buttons
All you have to do is set it to the first one, hit ok and call it a day.
If you're phone still did this even after setting that setting, then it's your phone that's at fault, not Windows Mobile.
From re-reading your post it sounds like option 2 would work for you (Lock buttons if device is locked)
I think what the man means is we need to feed android cupcake to that behemoth of a phone. I love huge screens on phones. Makes for better web browsing experience.
Okay Now I' Feel Stupid, Should have waited until after Feb to buy my Phone, Just ordered A Sprint HTC Touch Pro a week ago, it has a decent 528Mhz Cpu and 288 Megs of Ram with 512 Megs of Rom. To see this Phone sporting a 1 Ghz Cpu makes me cry after dropping $300 cash on a new phone and singing a two year contract. Wonder which carriers this phone will be on?
Yeah kind of...if you are on Sprint you should get the Palm PRE, seems like an obvious choice.
Don't feel so bad Junemas, i stick by one rule. "Benchmarks or it didnt happen"
Realize that even your good driver lacking Touch Pro has a decent shot of performing the tricks done this video if its processor was 1ghz. What qualcomm needs is optimization, not MOAR power. This processor will be terrible on battery life (by general account).
And also remember that this is a very long time from being released, and not a guarantee to come to sprint. TBH, the newest batch of winmo phones usually makes a stop in the US around late summer. . . and dont believe the palm pre hype, its looking a lot like the Bold IMO, wait till you get a chance to play with it IRL.
I don't really feel that bad having my HTC Touch Pro, as every phone with a browser is required to have the Data plan, including the Palm Pre, I managed to talk the sales person to take the data plan off my phone, so I get 450 any time minutes, and unlimited nights starting at 6p.m. and unlimited weekends for $45 a month, my apt is wi-fi and my job is wi-fi as well as most of the other places I go, so web access is free for me, try getting the palm pre or any smart phone with out a data plan, it's tough, even the iPhone requires the Data plan from AT&T that's an additional $30 a month even if you don't plan on utilizing it do to having wi-fi in your home. If the Pre lives up to hype I could always add another phone on my plan and dump my HTC Touch Pro on my girl friend.
The Touch Pro is a solid phone, I like mine. There is some occasional slow down, especially if you load it up with a 16GB MicroSD card full of music, like I have. The Music player in the TouchFlow interface is krap, mine crashes if I even look at it, so use Windows Media player instead. It runs faster and never locks up. Also WMP works well with Stereo Bluetooth headsets, unlike the Core Player. Like all WinMo devices, you get back what you put into them. With some poking around, there's NOTHING you can't get one to do with one.
MaxSMoke:
No, Nerds like to have full access to their system. And they also like to spend their time on accessing ththeir system on their device and making that the "content" of it, instead of using a well designed device that simply delivers to aid them in the REAL WORLD.
PEOPLE like stuff that works. People then don't care HOW it works.
95% of users don't have to know that.
And that doesn't make them stupid, so please don't follow up with any "if you are too stupid to launch the taskmanager and force quit an app that blocks your mobile from responding you shouldn't ... blah blah."
Apple sells BECAUSE it works and you don't have to care how the thing works. The thing is designed to know how you work. And Apple stuff is still not perfect. But lightyears ahead of the retarted stuff WinMo is, which is clearly not done by designers, but by programmers.
but hey, to each his own.
And the market reflects that. The majority buys devices that work and don't hassle them with needing to learn computer language. The minority will keep to their "if installed a system extension and know every key stroke makes a star trek tricorder noise" or "I have installed a background Application that monitors if my computer at home is still downloading the porn que I set up and alerts me with a Star Trek video every time some unimportant trivial thing happens. Sometime it hangs, but no problem, I just launch the TASKMANAGER on miy MOBILE, search the task, open the terminal, send a force quit, run the reset script via terminal and load the app through the terminal launch script I wrote. Cool! This is how a mobile pda should be!"
Haha.
This is no different than the HTC touch interface - namely, putting lipstick on a pig. While the hardware on this Tosh may be amazing, where Apple have so got it right with the iPhone is that they really thought about everything. (Note that each Windows Mob device is different, you cannot pickup one and then another and get on with it.) While there may be flaws in the iPhone (lack of cut and paste etc), all of the whiz bang visuals are there to guide you. The icons zoom in and out to indicate you're opening or closing an application. The images slide left to right and bounce at the end of a slide show so you know you're finished. (Just like in real life.) This tosh seems like a typical Windows desktop with a few 'fake' 3D effects to get some hype.
Apple spent 5 years developing the iPhone. And it shows. I think the next revision will makeup for the current flaws. And if it is as thin and has a screen of equal or greater res than the current iPhone (3G), then life will be good.
All good reason why I think Apple should license the iPhone OS (X). Companies like Tosh would build it solid and leave Apple to the default spec and software.
Oops, meant to say "And if it is as thin and has a screen of equal or greater res than this nice Tosh, then life will be good."
You know full well they will add copy and paste and that will be it. What apple need to do is listen to the people instead of the finance manager to really sell the iPhone.
If Apple licenses the software then we won't see improvements being made with a rapid pace.
I think the real innovation for iphone os starts now. They created the foundation with os 1.0, they released the sdk and app store with 2.0 for developers ahead of the competition, and now we will see ui improvements, new features and optimizations.
Think of it like Mac os x. os 1.0 was OSX Cheetah, os 2.0 was Jaguar, and now the awesomeness begins with os 3.0 (Panther).
Good comments by WonderKid and TitaniumMan. You should form a team. It's a natural fit, btw.
WonderKid and TitaniumMan.
Bad comment by Shattered Ice. Which also seems like a natural fit. He's gonna be your supervillan.
WonderKid and Titanium face of against Shattered Ice, the mutant from Planet WinMo.
Lol.
Ok, enough kidding:
„You know full well they will add copy and paste and that will be it. What apple need to do is listen to the people instead of the finance manager to really sell the iPhone.”
How much bullshit can you count. It's this weeks puzzle question!
HEY, SHATTERED ICE DUDE:
Apple doesn't listen to the people, because people can't articulate shit and don't know shit.
A Designer is a designer because he knows how to design.
If you ask people, like I regulary have to do they will tell you that they want their phone with a TV Tuner, a Zoom Camera, a video recorder, ham and eggs, a toaster, beer dispenser and all that for free.
That's how marketing and R&D works for everybody else works - feature lists, feature lists, feature lists and useless crapp - EXCEPT for Apple.
Apple designs for USABILITY. And that's why they sell the iPhone ALREADY.
And copy & paste might be a valid argument. But that's about all that is REALLY wrong on the iPhone. And I can live without. Really good.
Now let's start counting what's wrong with all other smartphones and the surrounding infrastructure - yes, that counts, too.
This will be our question for next week.
I'm expecting you to make the first entry right after my comment, because you all can't resist trolling me. ;)
Damn, what about WonderKid and TitaniumMan? Will we ever see them again?
Wrong Wrong Wrong. All WinMO devices use the same backbone interface. The only difference we're seeing now are these Home Screen overlays. Get past the shiny, "Smart Phone for Dummies" interface and you find a real computer OS in there. There is no other popular mobile OS that allows the level of full access you get in a WinMo device. This is in stark contrast to these neutered "Smart Phones", which only give you access to the interface. I know alot of you noobs might be scared, but more experienced people actually LIKE having full access to their system.
Signing* Excuse the typo, hope it doesn't draw in the Internet Correction Police/Geeks.
I was watching this earlier this morning. There is two other videos one showing gaming and one showing videos. Unfortunately the camera they're using is crap and make the phone look likes it struggling but its not its the camera itself. But It looks nice. I just hope they can price at a competitive price.
I've been watching them too. Mobile Computer Mag have a much better video here:
http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/200902031272/hands-on-with-the-toshiba-tg01-windows-mobile-smartphone.html
Pity it is still 6.1 though.
Sorry, I just wanted to add that although the official stance is that it is running 6.1, there appears to be quite a bit of nudging and winking going on in all the interviews I've seen. My guess is that at release it will be WinMo 6.5. It would be stupid otherwise.
The video playback looks smooth, but they are using Core Player, and there is no mention of the codec used (DivX?), or the resolution, framerate and bitrate of the encoding. I am presuming it is at native resolution, and if so then I am impressed.
The other pertinent unknowns are battery life and price of course.
Am I really seeing WinMo STILL lagging on a 1GHz CPU?
No its the video. If you watch the other videos you ill see.
cool
When I saw the background on the first pic I thought it came with a Powerpuff Girls background lol.
okee so I'm not the only one who noticed that. Good. I was worried. BACK TO THE COMPLETE COLLECTION
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THIS $30 gadget can save MILLIONS peoples from death!
http://offtopicnews.blogspot.com/2009/02/un-geniale-dissalatore-low-tech-da-30.html
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Now THAT, would be great with Android.
And of course why put a resistive touchscreen on the outside, with a "Revolutionary 1 GHz processor on the inside"? That's the downside of Asian phones.
As I understand it, "these Asian phones" use a resistive touch screen because people like being able to scribble Eastern alphabets on the screen. Even keyboarded phones offer little solace when you have hundreds instead of tens of characters to enter. Capacitive screens can't just use any cheap, pointy object and are a bit more troublesome there. Until someone works out this difference, I reckon resistive will reign supreme with our Asian friends.
I know that, I wasn't being condescending. As a person who won't be entering Asian characters, for me, the downside of Asian phones is the resistive touchscreen.
can you remove that interface or must that always stay. I am not a fan of it.
give me WinMo and let me install an spb interface.
does anyone know what the price will be?
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so this year I may be adding this to the list of mobiles I will be choosing form.
Meizu M8, Asus Galaxy 7, HTC Touch HD (cant afford this one), or Toshiba TG01 (the UI is not for me)
Odd the Omnia(line of devices) which has an older chip is divx certified and ready, but this new hotness is not able to. Is something up?
do you mean 800x480?
Lower Rank me if ya want but there's nothing cool about this phone
OK.
Tool.
Both videos I've seen, the guy seems like he's having trouble getting touch response from the screen. Especially in the top right corner when switching from time to calendar etc. Now I know resistive vs capacitive each have their own pros/cons but I think this phone would be a lot better if it had the sensitivity of capacitive.
i agree, but in this case i think the guy just wasn't used to the phone and didn't know what the hell he was doing.
I'm no iphone fan boy (I resisted buying one) but it's obvious so many companies mistake flashiness and spinny things for good design. This thing looks like it has a terminal case of that. I would be embarrassed to us this thing in public.
If it's supposed to be finger only, a capacitive screen would be better.
But looks like it still needs a stylus.
Let the GHZ wars Begin!
It is gonna be difficult to top the Pre but that looks damn nice.
THAT'S MY NEW PHONE! *Please* tell me it's coming to Sprint! And that it's got a memory card slot. It would be totally weak if it didn't.
the difference between that bullshit and Apple is well very wide. For one thing Apple doesn't put shit in your face until the product is ready to go. You'll never see Apple demoing a fucking hot product in some darkened ass room. Their swag is shown to us in a professional manner befitting a world class tech company.
And as far as 1GHZ is concerned, you can kiss your battery goodbye. These iphone knocks off are nothing but a load of bells and whistles by companies that can only drop hardware. I posted a few months ago that these companies that rip Apple only rip the other competing guys. They duke it out trying to best Apple with a bunch of expensive hardware(HTC, cough,cough!) and in the end all you're left with is an ODM ghetto of fucking played out phones.
I'm starting to appreciate TouchFlo 3D even more. Man that UI is UGLY. I get trying to cover up default WinMo screens but please. The revolving panels are annoying. The ability to have 30 shortcuts on a single screen is absurd. The buttons are still too small.
The hardware looks amazing. I love WinMo. Just please make it look better. It's easy enough to visit XDA and PPCGeeks to get tons of ideas on how a UI can look and behave.