Nokia N97 designer interview accidentally outs two new Nokia sets?
By Sean Cooper 
posted Feb 12th 2009 1:12PM
posted Feb 12th 2009 1:12PM
Sure, the pic looks a wee bit dodgy, but regardless it shows what looks to be two Nokia sets we've not seen before. Both of these ape the N97 -- which explains how this vid has been circulating since the 29 of January -- but the set on the right has had its d-pad moved to the right side of the keyboard and the buttons on the face seem absent. The handset on the left differs as it looks -- arguably -- thinner than the N97 and the front lip is sporting what appear to be a mini USB port and headset adapters. GSMArena has pointed out a couple sets from Nokia's leaked roadmap that could fit the bill. The Ivalo (left) has a 3.5-inch touchscreen, 32GB ROM, AGPS, a 5 megapixel camera, WiFi, and rounds out with TV-out and Bluetooth. The Madeleine, if that's what it is, has a side sliding keyboard, WiFi, Bluetooth, FM Radio,GPS, and a 3.2 megapixel camera. Hopefully the truth is waiting for us in Barcelona, but feel free to peek at the video after the break to keep your spirits up 'til then.
[Via GSMArena]
[Via GSMArena]
Yes please! both look rather tasty.
These are my favorite articles, ones that lick of gossip and rumor. Complete with blurry-cam snaps!
new Fucking technology
;-)
N97 as sex toy?
That does it, I'm _never_ buying another secondhand phone.
The one on the left looks sweet. I would envision putting this in a horizontal stand on my desk to use it as a clock/Calendar, etc. Very cool!
well, you dont need a n97 for that :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRMxSStlGxg
Is he smoking too much pot?
Pot is the root of all art.
Yup, the one on the left is in fact the up comming Nokia Rasta
I'm diggin' the interface on the left. Think it'll work with iTunes? I only got 10 GB of songs...
Getting Symbian phones to sync with iTunes is trivial. There's even an official plug-in for the Mac version.
"Trivial?" Well excuse me for not knowing what Symbian handsets have/don't have! *eyeroll*
Sorry, didn't mean it as a flame. Just saying that it's very easy. :)
I'm sorry too. I shouldn't have been so defensive...
Awwww... sniff
That comment only applies to the obscene amount of shiity iPhone and iPod third party products that exist. Stop plagiarising my previous comments you un-original turd.
Let me get this straight: The one on the right is not an existing HTC phone.
Damn You NOKIA!
give me my n97 already!!
BTW, that thing on the left picture really has that PSP look all over it.
"BTW, that thing on the left picture really has that PSP look all over it. "
First thing I thought of. ;)
We're shaping up to a good next week...
What did you expect? He can't even come up with his own username.
Here at Engadget, there is a small, pathetic, but very
persistent troll [AKA iEye] A fairy-like creature whose every waking
moment of his meaningless *life* is spent attempting to
annoy us users.
Think of him as a naked,buzzing forest sprite--darting from
tree to tree squirting tiny droplets of piss onto the
leaves; all the while, smirking and giggling at being able
to annoy us unsuspecting "adults".
Well done, little Boy. Sigmund Freud would be proud.
They look pretty damn cool. Is there a possibility that the mini USB could a HDMI slot of some kind. I agree next week is going to rock.
Supposedly those are just mockups of possible designs for the N97 and not actual phones.
Absolutely, those two phones are just dummy CAD models.
Designs that didn't make it.
This is a non-story.
@ ChillyCat: no, no. Did you noticed that other i-fans stay quiet when iEye express himself? Not to mention all the fun I get reading the replies. Seriously, we all need him (it?).
What? iEye comment got deleted ? So, too many users and admins may not like those stupid comments?
Having followed this discussion on Mobile-Review over the last two weeks, the consensus is that the slim-line device is Ivalo, and all black device is simply a mock-up, and early-phase design study and not a unique phone. In the particular frames from the video, they are showing design studies leading to the N97.
Seems iEye is getting board of his comments. We all yawn when you troll.
The N97 is EASILY, EASILY the best best hardware we'll see at the MWC this year (excluding Tegra chips). I would get it in a heartbeat if it ran anything other than S60.
I don't know. That Samsung S60 phone that Engadget outed a few days ago looked pretty hot too.
If we see any tegra devices. Only HTC have announced there partnership so far so we could see like one device. That all depends on any unknown partnerships.
Their not there.
TareX, are you fucking nuts?
The i8910 totally surpasses that piece of junk N97. Nokia had better not take the N97 to MWC to save themselves from the looming embarassment that will come with Samsung's announcement of THEE most feature filled phone, ever.
The i8910 is a touchscreen-only device. The N97 is able to pack in a full qwerty keyboard and a tilting screen into its slim package. Maybe you having the "iloveapple" flu, ur not able to realize the imp of a full keyboard.
Totally different hardware there.
Oh, wow, a hardware keyboard. That's what you meant when you said hardware? Pathetic.
The i8910's hardware is so much superior to the N97's, it's not even funny. Since a tilting screen and QWERTY keyboard make a device so amazing in your eyes, I'm sure you jizz in your pants everytime you hear 'HTC'...
But seriously... The N97's hardware is nothing special. Nothing special at all.
@ILoveApple
Actually they're both pretty cool.
@ILoveApple:
While the new i8910 looks good this baby N97 rocks too, dont come to your conclusions prematurely boy, this home screen has me drooling, this is what a smartphone should look like. Apart from the looks I didnt find too much going the i8910's way... We still need to how both of these perform in the real world though.
Yeah iloveapple I don't think u appreciate the real estate saved by eliminating a physical qwerty and a tilting hing. Think about it while you look for something on ur desk "to keep ur iPhone erect" so u can watch a movie.
...In the interest of steering this topic back on track, I have to say that I've used a physical keyboard before, and the experience wasn't all that great. Button-pushing felt kind of awkward in my hands with an HTC Mogul. I was more at home using a stylus on the touchscreen. I've tried out the Blackberry Storm too, and it felt better for my wide thumbs.
Maybe if Nokia put a touch keyboard AND a physical keyboard, would that satisfy all parties?
Amon, what are you smoking?
WVGA screen
HD video recording
HDMI out
Capacitive screen
THIN.
8MP quality Samsung camera, likely to be same as i8510's
Uses METAL
AMOLED screen
POWER.
You don't find much going its way? LOL. The N97 can only dream of having such features.
No wifi in the i8910?
Thats sad..
@ILoveApple:
i8910 may be the fancy phone you want post iphone, n97 is a smartphone with features I need to work smart and not waste time on a gadget doing things that I am not doing because there is a feature on the handset.
As a professional, I need a phone, email, IM (corp acc), internet (wi-fi and 3g). for the fun part I need a decent camera with video recording but HD on a mobile I havent seen anything yet that comes closer to a dedicated gadget.
Rememer the n97 has a slide out keyboard, I am ok with the thickness.
I dont have anything against i8910, but more the merrier isnt not my cup of tea, particularly if it is going to be priced on the fancier lines, which is higly likely.
If you like the i8910 better, so be it, I dont mind.
The i8910 has wifi, and I'm sure it'll have more capable HSDPA than Nokia's N97, what's its maximum DL rate? 3.6? Lol.
Eh?
Do you seriously think the N97 doesn't have Wi-fi?
WTF?
The Ivalo looks gorgeous! Shades of the N97/ Maemo UI there. I had a play with the 5800 but wasn't that impressed. This, however, looks much more attractive.
Way better than 5800 I would say, a different league altogether!
I've fallen a little out of touch with the phone market lately - has a date been mentioned/confirmed for the N97? It looks great (as do the new Samsung models)
No confirmed date, official release is Q2, rumor says that it could be early in the quarter (April?). I'm hoping for the release of the release date next week :-)
32 GB of ROM !!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's it going to run as OS? Vista on steroids.
+1
The Samsung i8910 may be the king in terms of hardware, but Samsung support is VERY lacking.
i8510 software updates are pretty much non-existent. I'd imagine the same with the i8910.
Samsung phones don't get to use the neat S60 apps that Nokia puts out like Maps or Podcasting.
If your phone breaks down, Samsung will claim you are out of warranty even though you may have bought it two months ago.
I would MUCH rather buy the N97 since there's some support behind it.
LOL, maybe where you live, 'Al', maybe where you live. I've had no problem with Samsung support, ever; I haven't even had the need to send in any Samsung devices I've owned, unlike the N85 and 5800 that I got rid of after a few weeks of their annoyances. "Non-existant"? I think you need to do some searching before typing, Nokia fanboy.
Open your eyes, go out into the real world and maybe you'll see just how silly the things you said were. I hope you're enjoying your half-cooked 'neat' S60 apps!
"If your phone breaks down, Samsung will claim you are out of warranty even though you may have bought it two months ago." I really do feel for ignorant people like you.
Yeah AI, i dont agree with you on the samsung support part, in fact its the best i have known, we have hardly had any issues and they have been more than happy to completely replace the gadgets if required!
Say hello to the new N-GAGE on the left
Nokia app store = games
i think those two are just n97 design prototypes. :/
this pic is a fake. we can see that it is a PSP which was photoshoped. look at the connections on the side. it's the same on a PSP!
Wow. Sorry, dude, but that's the most idiotic comment I've read on here today. It's a screencap from the video, thus it's impossible that it's a photoshop fake. Also, the video is from Nokia, who have no reason to mod a psp to look like one of their new phones. Sheesh.
And to this article in general, common sense says that the two phones are early prototypes of the N97, since that's what's being discussed in the video (or rather the development of the N97).
The one on the left could be Nokia's next internet tablet which would explain the maemo look of the UI and happens to have the specs - AGPS, a 5 megapixel camera, WiFi, and rounds out with TV-out and Bluetooth
Ivalo = N97
Look at this image:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/zoom.php?dir=2008/12/nokia-n97-hands-on/&page=13
Funny how those closest to the cutting edge technology seem to have a 1995 cell phone to take a photo of that cutting edge technology!
I think a police sketch might be more valid!
They are screencaps from the video.
You used the term "ROM" ? seriously..
Samsung, LG does good in design the looks, but never be able to produce solid quality technological product. So Samsung products are not for me.