Okay, I have to know, on Josh Topolsky's behalf -- Does this thing have a resistive or a capacitive touchscreen? My enthusiasm will be halved if it's resistive... but it still looks mighty nice. I could wait for this thing to replace my Tilt if there's not better Android gear out by the time this lands on AT&T.
I think people harp on resistive screens a bit too much. Sure, they aren't instant-responsive from the touch of your finger, but the nice thing with resistive screens is that you can use them no matter what you are wearing. Have gloves on in freezing or inclement weather? No problem for a restive screen. No matter what, you can always use the device.
Capacitive screens are the most responsive, but the absolutely require you to have some sort of electrical contact from your body through an appendage.
the thin plastic on the screen of my display is so easy to scratch and just dosnt have the same feel as say an iPhone or a G1 with the glass screen. not knocking my Fuze at all but i would love the ability to easily wipe it with my jeans or jacket and not worry about scratching. also In before screen protector.... if HTC made 1st party protector replacements I would have one for sure, but there's already scratches on my screen and it makes air bubbles and just looks gross.
though im thinking about it now and the stylus is EXTREMELY useful, especially in a winmo device. i think ill gladly take a few scratches so that i may retain the ability to poke around with something other than my finger.
I rarely use my stylus on my Touch Pro, which is a testament to how well HTC designed the Touch FLO 3D interface. However, there are some instances when I absolutely have to go deeper into the OS, and that is when a stylus is most useful. Even then, I just downloaded a registry editor and made the scroll bars just a few pixels wider so they would more easily recognize my finger presses.
That's another thing I like about Windows Mobile; it's the fact that you can readily modify and edit nearly any aspect of the OS, and install programs without the need for a pre-approved application store to find apps that actually work on your device.
TouchFlo3D is too much of a resource hog, too glitchy, too slow, too prone to crashing. I have to soft reset my device at least once a day to clear my internal storage cache just to keep my device moving. I'm using a 'cooked' rom (Elite RC2) because the stock AT&T rom made the device almost unusable. I just recently disabled TF3D and now my device is usable, but the interface is ugly as sin.... My best bet now is to try a new rom with TouchFlo HD, which i hear is a lot snappier.
Hrm, that is odd that you have so much trouble with your device. I am using the Sprint touch Pro and I rarely have issues with my device. I don't know if it's because I used PHM Registry Editor to speed up the responsiveness of the Touch FLO, but I do know that my device never freezes. There are times when I have left it on for a few days that it becomes a bit sluggish, but never do I have to reset it every single day to get it to work properly.
I wonder if it's a Fuze issue, or if it's just the model of phone that you are using? I know that Touch FLO and Windows Mobile can be laggy, but I never really experience any major glitches or hang ups.
Have a custom ROM (Mighty ROM) on my Sprint Touch Pro, and haven't had to reset it for days, and only then to update a software installation that required a theme change.
TF3D here = smooth, fast, responsive, intuitive, and virtually no noticeable impact on performance.
my fuze froze on me at least 3 times yesterday when i was showing off my "amazing phone". I was met with laughter and criticism. I know how good my device is but thanks to a crashing Opera mobile and a TF3D which crashed BeeJive almost 20% of the time, nobody else does. :P
I'm trying to find the silver lineing somewhere but i never had this problem with my Blackjack 1, that phone always just worked.
i love my fuze and all, do NOT get me wrong. its just disappointing sometimes.
Okay, I was being a bit sarcastic when I said my enthusiasm would be halved... I've been listening to too many Engadget podcasts! I don't really mind resistive screens that much, but it's true that they *feel* like an old tech at this point... and like a capacitive screen with a stylus (that actually works with it) could be an ideal best-of-both-worlds scenario. I've been pretty disappointed that there isn't any hardware remotely comparable to this that's running Android... If they could pump out the G1 last Fall, why couldn't a port to some decent hardware be done by now, or at least by NEXT Fall? As of right now, it sounds more like the world's tech media are convened at Windows Mobile [6.5] World Congress.
GET OFF ELITE RC2 or RC3. I hate detracting from the hard work of the guys that took the time to make it, the rom is probably awesome on the European touch pro, but I think its something unique to the ATT Fuze. I was using RC3 with the update and just about every other time I soft reset I had to hard reset. It was terrible but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and worked with it. The final straw was when I was at jury duty and it crashed completely. I had to hard reset and even then would NOT let me align my screen to get it started again. Then the phone was highly unresponsive and slow. It took three hard resets before I could get through the align screen. I thought I had ruined it for good.
I went home and immediately installed ROMeOS rom and everything was a lot better. Its been five days and not one crash. Its an amazing phone.
If this is resistive, I won't touch this thing. I hate having to apply pressure just to navigate the UI. Pressure should be for "clicking" not for navigation. If it's capacitive then +1 for this device. If it's resistive then -1. If it's a combo of touch and pressure sensitive, then +2!
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Okay, I have to know, on Josh Topolsky's behalf -- Does this thing have a resistive or a capacitive touchscreen? My enthusiasm will be halved if it's resistive... but it still looks mighty nice. I could wait for this thing to replace my Tilt if there's not better Android gear out by the time this lands on AT&T.
I think people harp on resistive screens a bit too much. Sure, they aren't instant-responsive from the touch of your finger, but the nice thing with resistive screens is that you can use them no matter what you are wearing. Have gloves on in freezing or inclement weather? No problem for a restive screen. No matter what, you can always use the device.
Capacitive screens are the most responsive, but the absolutely require you to have some sort of electrical contact from your body through an appendage.
the thin plastic on the screen of my display is so easy to scratch and just dosnt have the same feel as say an iPhone or a G1 with the glass screen. not knocking my Fuze at all but i would love the ability to easily wipe it with my jeans or jacket and not worry about scratching. also In before screen protector.... if HTC made 1st party protector replacements I would have one for sure, but there's already scratches on my screen and it makes air bubbles and just looks gross.
and of course i also live in Florida, what are gloves? haha
though im thinking about it now and the stylus is EXTREMELY useful, especially in a winmo device. i think ill gladly take a few scratches so that i may retain the ability to poke around with something other than my finger.
I rarely use my stylus on my Touch Pro, which is a testament to how well HTC designed the Touch FLO 3D interface. However, there are some instances when I absolutely have to go deeper into the OS, and that is when a stylus is most useful. Even then, I just downloaded a registry editor and made the scroll bars just a few pixels wider so they would more easily recognize my finger presses.
That's another thing I like about Windows Mobile; it's the fact that you can readily modify and edit nearly any aspect of the OS, and install programs without the need for a pre-approved application store to find apps that actually work on your device.
TouchFlo3D is too much of a resource hog, too glitchy, too slow, too prone to crashing. I have to soft reset my device at least once a day to clear my internal storage cache just to keep my device moving. I'm using a 'cooked' rom (Elite RC2) because the stock AT&T rom made the device almost unusable. I just recently disabled TF3D and now my device is usable, but the interface is ugly as sin.... My best bet now is to try a new rom with TouchFlo HD, which i hear is a lot snappier.
Hrm, that is odd that you have so much trouble with your device. I am using the Sprint touch Pro and I rarely have issues with my device. I don't know if it's because I used PHM Registry Editor to speed up the responsiveness of the Touch FLO, but I do know that my device never freezes. There are times when I have left it on for a few days that it becomes a bit sluggish, but never do I have to reset it every single day to get it to work properly.
I wonder if it's a Fuze issue, or if it's just the model of phone that you are using? I know that Touch FLO and Windows Mobile can be laggy, but I never really experience any major glitches or hang ups.
Myro, you're doing something wrong, terribly wrong.
Have a custom ROM (Mighty ROM) on my Sprint Touch Pro, and haven't had to reset it for days, and only then to update a software installation that required a theme change.
TF3D here = smooth, fast, responsive, intuitive, and virtually no noticeable impact on performance.
my fuze froze on me at least 3 times yesterday when i was showing off my "amazing phone". I was met with laughter and criticism. I know how good my device is but thanks to a crashing Opera mobile and a TF3D which crashed BeeJive almost 20% of the time, nobody else does. :P
I'm trying to find the silver lineing somewhere but i never had this problem with my Blackjack 1, that phone always just worked.
i love my fuze and all, do NOT get me wrong. its just disappointing sometimes.
I'm thinking it has more to do with
a) poor ROM installation / programming
or
b) Some sort of problem that your FUZE has with its hardware
That's really all I can think of at the moment...
Okay, I was being a bit sarcastic when I said my enthusiasm would be halved... I've been listening to too many Engadget podcasts! I don't really mind resistive screens that much, but it's true that they *feel* like an old tech at this point... and like a capacitive screen with a stylus (that actually works with it) could be an ideal best-of-both-worlds scenario.
I've been pretty disappointed that there isn't any hardware remotely comparable to this that's running Android... If they could pump out the G1 last Fall, why couldn't a port to some decent hardware be done by now, or at least by NEXT Fall?
As of right now, it sounds more like the world's tech media are convened at Windows Mobile [6.5] World Congress.
@myro
GET OFF ELITE RC2 or RC3. I hate detracting from the hard work of the guys that took the time to make it, the rom is probably awesome on the European touch pro, but I think its something unique to the ATT Fuze. I was using RC3 with the update and just about every other time I soft reset I had to hard reset. It was terrible but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and worked with it. The final straw was when I was at jury duty and it crashed completely. I had to hard reset and even then would NOT let me align my screen to get it started again. Then the phone was highly unresponsive and slow. It took three hard resets before I could get through the align screen. I thought I had ruined it for good.
I went home and immediately installed ROMeOS rom and everything was a lot better. Its been five days and not one crash. Its an amazing phone.
If this is resistive, I won't touch this thing. I hate having to apply pressure just to navigate the UI. Pressure should be for "clicking" not for navigation. If it's capacitive then +1 for this device. If it's resistive then -1. If it's a combo of touch and pressure sensitive, then +2!
Its resistive, windows mobile doesnt support capacitive