Difficult though it may be to believe, Panasonic showcased a conceptual in-dash BD deck of its own
back in October of 2007. Obviously, nothing has really come of that, so Mitsubishi's stepping in with a prototype of its own. It's stated that the player has only a third of the volume compared to a traditional "home Blu-ray player," with it somehow being able to slip into a standard single-DIN opening. Better still, we're told that the final unit -- which is slated to hit production during fiscal year 2009 -- could also boast a mobile TV tuner in select markets, giving us even more reason to not pay attention to pedestrians, road signs and stop lights while taking that Sunday cruise.
posted Feb 16th 2009 2:16PM
the point of an in-dash BD player is?
HD mobile pron!
you just made a point!
"you just made a point! "
dont get too excited
Thousands of MP3's, AAC, or FLAC on one BD disc with play lists show on screen.. If it can play DVD-A, SACD's and BD music then I see a point.
BD navigation.
Wait...
Blu-ray in a car? on a 7" screen?
LMAO!
Use your brain moron.
If you knew ANYTHING, you would understand it's not about HD on a 7" screen. It's about Blu-ray being the future format and well seeing as it will be replacing DVD eventually, it also needs to be in vehicles with little children so mommy and daddy can be left alone to drive.
IE - it's about portability and being able to play your movie collection on the go. It's not about a high def experience on a 7" screen.
Again, please use what little brain you have to understand that :)
Really grown up talk there absolutc - why are you so angry about something as incosequential to your life as this? At any rate, IMO BD is not likely to be the format of the future - digital download is. My wife already carries enough tv/movies to keep our kids happy for an extended road trip - ON HER PHONE.
darren is right, in my pov Optical Media is going to DIE soon there will be 64Gb Flashdrives for cheaper than any Blueray disk ... its SO MUCH more usefull
On the other hand.. there are still people using kasettes and ... Floppy disks.....
Optical media has NO advantage over flash media/Portable HDD'S they are not even Smaller than USB-Sticks and a 1Tb external HDD is probably smaller than a pile of BD-Disk ....
@ Finnschi, I can only imagine going into blockbuster to get the new Matrix usb.
@darren
Digital downloads in FULL HD (1080p) is what you wife is carrying around right now? Or are we talking 420/720p? For media and full HD resolution, BD is the way to go. Period. For ON THE GO people, downloads are best. Especially since most of the screens are 3-4" and under. The issue is, there are several markets here. We have the digital/portable market, then you have the at home market. Who wants to watch 720p on their 60" 1080p plasma? Not I. I want FULL 1080p.
Sure it would be nice to have a flash drive storing an entire movie. however, that is not possible at this point in time. Nor is it cost effective. Same with storing movies on hard drives for HTPC. Especially when those movies are 45 gig a piece. Not to mention the amount of wasted electricity in having all those drives active. There are just too many problems and not enough answers when it comes to digital media. Hard copy does not need power, memory or the like. It's cheap, sits on a shelf and can not be destroyed by static or magnetic interference. It just works.
I enjoy my digital copies for my phone that come with most blu-ray movies. I have the best of both worlds. However, I will not actively seek out and purchase digital movies. It's a waste. I prefer hard copy.
It's all about getting people to buy into something that's more expensive than it should be. Even DVD quality is overrated on a 7" screen.
@absolutc
so wait... you're trying to tell me that having a hard drive full of movies is somehow more wasteful than hard copies? are you out of your mind?
let's see... we have the heinous chemicals used in the manufacturing process. you have the energy used in the manufacturing process. you have the fossil fuels used to deliver said hard copy (probably from overseas, so you get, the boat fuel, the fuel used by the cranes unloading the boat, the fuel used by the truck that delivered it to the store, the energy used to light the store, the fuel that went into your car so you could sit in traffic on the way to Best Buy to buy it) then you have the packaging, coated with all kinds of inks and glues that are eight kinds of heinous, half of which will immediately be thrown away into the trash to go sit in a landfill for the next 150 years. Now, multiply that by however many people...
and then we have my hard drive. the hard drive that takes, hmm... 20 watts power? about the same amount of juice as the light in my refrigerator. Which, by the way, has a bunch of very nice 1080 resolution films on it, that i downloaded quickly over FiOS. Probably less time than it took for you to go to Best Buy, let alone the time, energy, and waste involved in getting your precious hard copy into your hands.
10 years ago you were probably one of those people jumping up and down claiming DVD would never live up to the quality of a LaserDisc. Nearly every argument you just made could be shot down with about two minutes of research and a basic command of the English language.
You sir, are a moron.
@ Henry's post. Hear hear...
Back to the ICE question, in dash BD is moronic. Slow access time, susceptible to vibrations and shocks, nothing would piss me off than having a sensitive disc player that keep skipping every time i hit a bump on the road.
Anybody who says they need HD in cars obviously dont have the a WXGA setup in thier cars. I play divx files on mine (alpine W502e) it looks just like a HD broadcast (because of the small 7" screen). Anything other than that is overkill, unless you're planning to install a 32" LCD in your MPV...
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Really,
I guess Mitsubishi and Panasonic know there is a large market of dumbasses for this product.
This seems.... unsafe.
Oh wow, now those DvD Navigation systems... can use well.... 3 Giga pixel Images .... great..... I don't get the point oO
If anyone wants more than 30Gb of music in theire car... get a iPod... its cheaper... and you don't have to buy blank BD Disk.....
Although this concept is a WTF WHY subject, i must admit i parked up outside mcdonalds (oh yes, mcdonalds.) and sat listening to a cd, and looked over at the dude parked up next to me in his mercedes with his g/f (damn, he knows how to show a girl a good time) watching the soaps on TV, and i was pretty jealous.
a bluray however, hmm.. i cant imagine being parked up for 2-3hours watching a bluray on a 7" screen for any reason, the battery would die before you got to the end of the film anyway.
and "Its for the kids" maybe so, but how many kids are like "Fork sake, this DVD player in the back is so annoying dad we need a bluray!" (If you have these kids that say this, then, wtf u have a dvd player in ur car?! damn, im falling behind with the times)
The dude's still eating at Micky D's though.
IS THIS A CELLPHONE TOO????
yes it is, wait no,... its a smartphone... it probalby runs WinMo or android.. and uhmm its special !!
My "car radio"(Mac mini) has a 1Tb HDD,... now Blueray BEAT THAT !! .... and I also have a 22" Screen so i can watch HD-Movies RIGHT NOW!
There is no need for Blueray... EVER!
PS: VW BUS FTW!!!
"The most high-def way to get into an accident."
Why?
Of course I have 1080p in my car. Along with 7.1 Dolby Surround.
And a CRT in my house.
@absolutc
Usually I wouldn't bother because you are clearly misinformed, but almost everything you said is wrong.
~10 years ago when mp3 players first came out (I had a 128MB samsung Yepp), your argument would be about as valid except for replacing 1080p with a sampling rate of about 128kbps, and replace BD with CD... Then came ipods. BD exists for copyright protection. Even now people "back up" BDs to HD just like we did CDs to mp3 players. Next will come 1080p feature length downloads.
- BD is a storage medium, not a resolution. You could store about up to a roughly 15 minute 1080p video on a CD-R for instance.
- "There are just too many problems and not enough answers when it comes to digital media." It's all digital for one. For two, see my mp3 player argument.
- "...and can not be destroyed by static or magnetic interference." See "flash memory" or "non-volatile solid state memory"...
- Most 1080p movies are about 20-30G uncompressed, but it depends on movie length, and number of extras on the disc. You can compress them to about 8-10GB apiece at full resolution, with no noticeable degradation. 8-10GB could be downloaded overnight on most home internet connections.
- In terms of dollars per byte, hard drive storage is far cheaper than buying a bluray burner and media:
$300 blu ray burner + $10 media = $310. $310/50GB= ~$6.20 per GB for the first disc. For the last disc (full BD burner depreciation)=$10/50GB= ~$.20 per GB
$100 for 1TB HD = $100/1024GB= ~$.10 per GB
-CDs, DVDs, and BDs are all technically soft copies, just like a floppy disk was a soft copy.
-Yes, you need power to read both HD and BD.
Personally, I'd rather plug an external HD into my car and play movies that way, or (get this) use a laptop. Yes, I do have a power inverter.
...and if you made it this far, have fun lugging your CD binder around with your portable CD player.
I've got a car computer and with a 7'' screen that maxes out my dash. Its resolution is 800x480. Technically, 480p 16x9 is 720x480. With BD playback, I'll be seeing more resolution. With the addition of better screens and OLED and my insane need for technology I'll probably only be able to see in my mind, I'll probably need this.
I'll buy one for my next car for the pure and simple fact that every new children's movie we buy is on Blu-Ray. Right now, the car only supports DVD. Having a Blu-Ray in the car is more about the convenience of taking a movie from your house and playing it in the car for the children with no fuss, transcoding BS, burning a DVD that was ripped from the BR, yada-yada-yada....
It is not about quality but just plain convenience.
You guys aren't going to have to worry about this -at least not from a North American perspective, well, at least not at the retail level. Panasonic announced at CES that they were terminating their retail mobile electronics sales once their existing 2008 product inventory had been depleted.