Shuttle ships liquid-cooled SDXi Carbon SFF gaming PC
By Darren Murph 
posted February 17th 2009 8:57AM
posted February 17th 2009 8:57AM
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posted February 17th 2009 8:57AM
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I used to love my old shuttle back in 2003
That's great they got all that power by using a micro-atx and small form factor case. But for well over 2k any one of use can build the same thing for a fraction of the price.
Shuttle dosen't use Micro ATX. Micro ATX is much bigger than a Shuttle mobo. Shuttle mobos only have two expansion slots where Micro ATX otherboards have four.
Where is the nieche market for this seriously?
Probably where your spell check lives........
"spell check is relative" - nietzsche
I refuse to buy a computer that looks like it's partially infected with the hexagon virus. Go all the way or don't tease me!
i7 fail
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Oh almost 3k for something i cant upgrade much, wonderful! who needs I7 or quadcore when you can spend 3k on a liquid cooled core2duo...
Why can't this be upgraded ? It has PCI-E slot which means a better card can be added later, hell you can even swap out the C2D for a quad if you wanted.
he said upgraded "much". and by "much", he likely means no upgrading to an i7 processor. i would have to agree as it's kinda useless considering it's a $2500 mini-computer based around yesterday's platform.
A computer isn't "useless" just because it uses a CPU that was released more than a month ago. Just what do you think an i7-based system can do that this can't? Run a game at 170 frames per second rather than 145? Yeah, that's real useful.
I have a Mac Pro. It's got a pair of four-core Xeons running at 2.8ghz. They aren't the latest processors available and they are even running .4ghz slower than the top-of-the-line Mac Pro. I'm okay with the fact that it doesn't have an i7.
Wowser, that's the ultimate toy to brag at LAN parties
werd. i cant wait to buy one and show it off... i need to practice lines like, "look what i overpaid for" and "oh yeah? well mine has a c2d in it."
"mine is slower, more expensive, AND fits in a backpack" will be the ultimate burn, though.
The thing that escapes me is why would you want water cooling done like this ? In this configuration it's louder and less efficient than a classic heatsink on other shuttles.
Much prefer to get out my dremel and make it myself.
This is in the "small" Shuttle G2 case, which has the pci-e slot up against the left edge of the case... so you're limited to single slot video cards unless you want to cut a big hole in the side of that, uh, nice case to let your double-wide gpu cooler hang out. The bigger cases, as in the SN series shuttles, have the pci-e card on the right side, and you can fit a 2-slot sized card (I have an 8800 GTX in mine) and some even support 2 cards in SLI. I have examples of each of those types of case, and if I were building a top-end power system in a Shuttle, I'd want the bigger one.
My almost 3 year old laptop has better performance. And it fits in a regular bag, along with my keyboard and mouse. Mind you, I don't have the BR player, or the available 2 TB of HD space. But I DO have a shit load of LED's that make make pretty colors to make up for that.
How can anyone afford $2599 for a gaming computer in this economy? Who has that kind of throw away cash?
I understand people sometimes use expensive gaming rigs for video editing and work that demands that power, I get that, but since it is obviously marketed toward gamers, they must believe there are people out there willing to shell out that much for video games..
Priorities, people..
reality: the people who have money in this economy are the same ones that can afford crap like this and would buy it.
All of my priorities are met thank you very much. It's not throw away at all. In fact you can have a decent system stay in your life, and be usable for several years. Lets look over a three year period. (three years IMO is a good amount of time before components either start to wear, or become obsolete) A $3000 system will cost you Approx $20 a week. That is cheaper than a night out at a bar, cheaper than going to Starbucks for 5 days a week, cheaper than hookers, cheaper than a LOT of stuff. Work out YOUR priorities and perhaps you too could enjoy a gaming system like this one, rather than whine about the economy.
Keep in mind that the the original IBM PC had a 4.77mhz, 8088 CPU, 64KB (not MB or GB) of RAM, a single 360KB floppy disk drive, and a 12" monochrome monitor . It had no hard drive. It sold for $3,005 at introduction in 1981. Adjusted for inflation, that's over $7,000.
This new Shuttle system seems like quite the bargain compared to that.
As you may know, I am a recent retiree. I was just about to buy one of these system when I read your comment. It really made me rethink the purchase and I've decided to hold off until the economy recovers.
You have got to be joking, enjoy waiting another 10 years before your next computer purchase then, because if the republicans have anything to say about it, to a retiree is that is spending money, is something you DON'T want to do.
Please make a choice, listen to the idiots or the big brains and decide for yourself whether a computer fits YOUR budget or not. And if it does, go F-ing get it.
side note, i LOVE my shuttle G2 and i use it exclusively for gaming. more so than my xbox360 or ps3.
SG31G2 with C2Q, 4gigs of ram and a 9800GT, all for around 1200 bucks. throw in a really fast HD and your going to keep up with the bigger systems that cost a LOT more, trust me, i love mine.
Keith I think you missed the point. Check Mr Retiree's name first.
Um, yes, it was a joke. I posted it. Allow me to explain:
Unitil recently, Bill Gates was the head of Microsoft Corporation, a successful company that makes computer software (you may have heard of it). He has a net worth of about $60billion.
The joke was based on the one-size-fits-all economic advice given by another in this thread about how it would be foolish to invest in a $2500 computer while the economy was still in trouble. This was my tongue-in-cheek way of showing them that they need to consider that, for some, such an expenditure is no big deal.
This is certainly an interesting concept, but it does seem like they missed the mark a little. It doesn't look like they use a water block on the graphics card, nor do they hook it into the psu at all. Generally, the psu on a shuttle box has a tiny fan that whines incessantly, way too noisy. If you're going to do a custom loop in one of these, I'd try to get a loop cooling everything hot in the box and then have a big radiator with a slow quiet fan in the back, and have a nice quiet single fan system. As it is, I think you're still going to have 3 fans in the box, so I'm not really sure what you gain with the water cooling. As far as upgrading goes, Shuttle tends to use mini-itx boards, so in theory you could upgrade to a mini-itx i7 motheboard later, that would be easier with the watercooling system. They used to have those big bolted down heat pipe coolers, which are effective but if you get a new motherboard with the cpu in a different spot, you can't use it. So it looks like the watercooling lines would be a little more flexible and could accomodate future upgrades. I just wish they had really expanded this out a little, as it is it seems a little half-assed.
This is almost the perfect computer for those people that 'multi-box' online video games. If you are not familiar with this, then you probably won't get it. However, the people that do this have issues with heat generation and loud fans. 5 computers in a room can get a bit loud / hot. Not unbearable mind you, but unpleasant none the less. And yes, the people that can afford this, are the same people that have 5 or more accounts for online games every month, so that they can 'play with themselves' online. Boy did that come out wrong... :)
Hmmm they will let you configure it with 8gb of ram but not a 64 bit OS.... Since you cant get a 64 bit os why bother with that upgrade.
What a waste of money considering you can build an i7 with your choice of SLI OR CrossFireX for $1,000 less.
Here is some fail for you...
Offers 8GB of DDR2 (what, no DDR3 at that price?)
Only offers 32 bit renditions of Vista and XP.
Ahh wait...32 operating system only...more than 3.5 gigs of RAM...
FAIL!
Looks like I fail...I saw your comment just after I posted mine. Huzzah!