Rumor mill says public Windows 7 Release Candidate coming on April 10th
By Laura June 
posted February 21st 2009 10:03AM
posted February 21st 2009 10:03AM
Ars Technica is reporting that several sources are now pointing to a likely Release Candidate build of Windows 7 being made publicly available on April 10th. While we can't attest to the probability of this occurrence... occurring on that date, they're also reporting that the development team's progress is confirmed as being on track for that date, so we'll just have to wait with breath bated to see if the unicorn (our term for the OS) appears then or not.
[Via Ars Technica]
[Via Ars Technica]
An amateur novelist?
An euro-elitist? (whatever that's supposed mean)
LOL
Do yourself (and the rest of the world) a favor: Seek Help.
Sweet. Now Mandy Moore and I can celebrate our birthday in style.
hey i think it must be april 10th only ! dont try to make an april fool kilgore trout ! lol !
How did you get Google Chrome working Engadget? It seems I can't get it working, even with the help of some guides I found on the internet..
To get Google chrome working on windows 7 build 7000 I installed it then opened it from the shortcut.....meh!
Are you on x64? Or are you mistaking the Windows platform to a novelty one like MacOSX where companies put the devs that rode the little yellow bus to school on their projects.
I can get Chrome to work on x64, just need to add -in-process-plugins to the launch property.
What I'd really like to know is how they got Chrome to work with Aero.. I can't get the clear window borders to work on Chrome!! It drives me nuts!
Wtf is with the unicorn??
Its a mythical creature. Engadget is suggesting a release date for Win 7 is mythical when in actuality RTM is probably sometime within the next 7 months.
there may be no link but april is the month of ubuntu spring release. time goes fast. i haven't tested 7 yet. i hope to do so soon.
Considering how unicorns only allow virgins to approach them, it's appropriate…
*sigh* No. Even I can't finish writing that joke. Sorry. :P
Yes of course and technically experienced user buys macs instead, keep telling yourself that and maybe it'll come true.
Sooo are you suggesting that Mac users are promiscuous sluts?
The unicorn being used as a symbol for Windows 7 only proves the lack of writing ability present in Engadget.
It isn't funny and makes no sense at all.
its all a ploy ... they handed out Win7 beta to everyone! Free!
so anyone with a jacked up spyware riddled machine grabbed a copy of 7 for free and will make another attempt not to destory this operating system.
right? i know some people are following me .... so given how many people complain to me in a day about their machines, I bet a couple million people have done this already ....
so in April MS pushes the release candidate 1 ... and by October MS is telling these millions of people with their free Public Beta nd RCs ... 1 2 and 3 .. .who knows how mnay there will be ... that its now time to convert their copy to a real copy of Windows or their Win7 is going to expire on December 31st 2009.
its tempting for a lot of people ... but MS is going to have a lot of people by the neck, its going to boost sales because 100s of thousands will not let their copy expire ... might be the time to buy MS stock before 2010 ... ha
who knows I didnt read the Win7 site, maybe they already told people this ...
my post is pure ignorant speculation ....
Yes, they did tell us this and anyone with half a brain would have installed this on a separate partition.
Hey, that's my birthday. =)
Engadget you cooks... the source is neowin.net http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/02/20/exclusive-windows-7-rc-set-for-april-10th-2009
Ars also stated their source is neowin.
Engadget makes a mean steak.
Awesome.
The greatest OS ever is inching ever closer to an official release.
I agree about it being the best OS ever!
I have been using windows 7 now as my main OS and really have ran into no real problems!
Just love it. I liked Vista and well 7 is better than it just because it's faster and the new task bar!
Way to go Microsoft!!!
Mmmmm, gimme!
I'm just glad mister screenshot is smart enough to use chrome ;)
Amazing that so many Windows users believe that Windows 7 is not Vista with less lipstick on. How easily fooled are these users. Just like IBM when they had 90% of the market and was fooled by MS, the biggest "me too" company on the planet, into allowing MS-DOS as the os to drive the PCs. MS didn't earn their 90% global monopoly. They got a free ride. Now they are getting a free ride through the expense of the uninformed public.
Windows 7 is to Vista what WinMo 6.1 is to WinMo 6.5
Lipstick on a pig that has had plastic surgery to make it not look like a pig.
Still a pig underneath.
When I saw "pig", "lipstick", and "plastic surgery", I was going to work your mother in some way but instead I think I'll take the high road.
Considering you speak from your mom's own personal experience it's best if you don't take any road at all.
Fox,
A pig that runs circles around that OSX crap that Apple has been peddling for close to 10 years now.
Time to put that dated OS to bed.
@ Hamidxa
Replace "OS X" with "Windows" and your statement will be true. I dumped my PC 3 years ago and have not looked back. The rest of my family also dumped their PCs and adopted the mac a year later. Now we don't have to worry about viruses, worms any more. As for the net work, I keep my firewall well protected just in case. The only thing we have to worry about is supplies for the printer.
Here's a detailed account of a programmer that saw Windows as the pig it is:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/04/what-microsoft-could-learn-from-apple.ars/2
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/04/what-microsoft-could-learn-from-apple.ars/3
He calls Windows a "legacy cruft" and "Writing software for Windows is a pain. Much of the platform is clunky and badly put together"
Fox,
That's why there are only about, oh, I don't know, a THOUSAND times more applications, games, and development tools for Windows than there are for the Mac.
That's probably why PC gaming rigs net faster performance than Apple ones.
That's probably why productivity suites such as Office run faster on Windows than they do on OSX.
That's probably why creativity suites such as Adobe now run faster on Windows than they do on OSX.
That's probably why Windows supports thousands more hardware configurations than does OSX.
As for virii, trojans, worms, I have not gotten one in over a decade.
As far as security goes, if Apple didn't have a 7+% market share, then more hackers would put their efforts towards bringing it down, but right now, it's barely worth the effort.
If they really did want to though, test after test after test ad infinitum in recent years has proven that OSX can be hacked into with far more ease than can Windows or Linux:
"Mac OS X hacked under 30 minutes:
Gaining root access to a Mac is "easy pickings," according to an individual who won an OS X hacking challenge last month by gaining root control of a machine using an unpublished security vulnerability."
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/Mac-OS-X-hacked-under-30-minutes/0,130061744,139241748,00.htm
"Mac OS X Hacked - Vista SP1 Hacked - Ubuntu Linux Survives Unscathed:
Ubuntu 7.10 is the only operating system that has survived unscathed from a hacking competition hosted by CanSecWest Vancouver 2008 and sponsored by TippingPoint's Zero Day Initiative. Outside of the Canonical distribution of the Linux operating system, Apple's Mac OS X Leopard was the first to be owned in day 2 of CanSecWest with Windows Vista Ultimate Service Pack 1 next on the last day. All the
platforms which have been used as targets in the
competition were fully updated with the latest released security patches. But while Mac OS X 10.5.2 Leopard was hacked via a zero-day vulnerability in Safari 3.1, Vista Ultimate SP1 was owned through a zero-day security flaw in Adobe's Flash, and not through a whole in the operating system or any of its default components."
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mac-OS-X-Hacked-Vista-SP1-Hacked-Ubuntu-Linux-Survives-Unscathed-82079.shtml
Enjoy your poorly coded, easily hacked, limited software and hardware compatibility, OS.
Fox,
Let me also add that "squeezing W7 on a netbook" is not difficult at all.
Engadget (in addition to many other sites) have already demonstrated just how simple it is, and how elegantly it runs, even when compared to XP.
I'm actually interested in that netbook running Android. It'll be interesting what the market feasibility will be once the research is done.
win 7 ftw!
LOL yeah I know. But I thought the Onion's article was hilarious, look at their comparison chart; made me crack up.
Ummm no Fox,
"Apple's share of US PC market slips to 8% at hands of Acer"
"Apple's share of the US computer market fell to 8 percent during the fourth calendar quarter of 2008 from 9.5 percent in the third as the Mac maker surrendered its third place ranking to surging netbook maker Acer, according to market research firm Gartner."
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/14/apples_share_of_us_pc_market_slips_to_8_at_hands_of_acer.html
And although Apple's presence on the world stage is not that grand, and most of their market share stems from the US, the following report proves that even here in their cash cow market, their market share is continuing to slip in Q1 09
"Although Apple no longer seems immune to the PC industry sales slump, analyst figures released this week don't actually show the entire sales picture.
On Tuesday, analyst firm NPD Group released an estimate that Apple computer sales in US retail stores, measured in units sold, fell six percent in January from the same month last year, and that Apple's market share dropped to 13.7 percent from 16.4 percent."
http://www.betanews.com/article/Apple_Mac_sales_are_down_but_maybe_not_everywhere/1235149125
@ Hamidxa
LOL I can't believe you're actually quoting CanSec West hahahaha. And on top of that you quote from ZDnet LOL! You're more misinformed than I initially thought. Well, looks like you didn't know that pony show was debunked long ago. Your market share tirade is stupid too.
As for your virii story, too bad. I've never gotten a virus in my Mac, because they do not exist. Wanna test me on that one? try me big boy, just try. One more thing, what you say on viruses is funny because apparently every windows user got a single virus 10 years ago and none since, just like you. At any rate, that still doesn't mean they don't exist, and that means you still have to worry about using anti-virus software and anti-malware and a whole array of other tools. Mac users don't have that worry, we just take care of our firewalls.
Lastly, in your post above you wrote "if Apple didn't have a 7+% market share, then..." and over here you're quoting Apple's 8%. I'm beginning to think you may have a little schizophrenia.
Anyway, I have a few meetings to attend. A rebuttal to your silly comments shall follow soon.
Fox,
yes Fox, because your previous post touting how great and wonderful everything is in the land of Apple from Apple Insider was not entirely biased.
Please, give me a break.
ZDNet is actually a generally impartial source, it would be like the CNN's of the world whereas AppleInsider revering OSX and all things Apple is akin to Fox News reporting on Republican candidates and championing conservative issues.
At this point, I have realized that to argue with a fool such as you is a fruitless endeavor since you will ultimately win by dragging me DOWN to your level...and then the experience kicks in.
I'll leave you to your Bizzaro world where up is down and down is up.
Lastly,
read the articles at least, they are from different quarters after all Q4 08 and Q1 09 (which has yet to close), hence the 8% and 7% market shares being reported, respectively.
As for rebuttals, this will be my last as I have better things to do than waste my time pointing out such ostensibly obvious minutia such as this.
@ hamidxa -- Debunking your CanSecWest nonesense:
There is no malware underworld servicing the Mac, and subsequently no demand for obtaining such exploits. Pointing out the presence of a theoretical attack vector in Mac OS X that can be easily addressed is nowhere near the scale of the actively destructive, virulently perpetuating problem that dogs Microsoft.
1) Exploits discovered for the Mac have little other value outside of contests like CanSecWest. Nobody would buy the exploit Charlie Miller found, because there is no market for it. In the Windows world, there is a thriving market for selling exploits because spammers, botneters, and identity thieves need them to stay in business. MS Fanboys like you talk about CanSecWest as if it stands on an equal footing with the millions of successful, real world attacks on Windows PCs that occur daily, and which actually cause real damage and lost time, and demand the continual, vigilant use of performance-robbing anti-virus software at all times on the Windows platform. This is grossly misleading and hypocritical.
Ironically Jeff Jones, a director in Microsoft's security group, blogged about the winning Mac OS X crack, noting:
“I don't really care for 'hack the box' contests. If a machine doesn't get hacked, it does not mean it isn't breakable. If it does get hacked, it just shows us what we already know - any machine can be broken under the right circumstances. So, don't read too much into the PWN 2 OWN results. I don't.”
2) The security problem affecting Windows users relates to the fact that there are more discovered flaws and that these are being actively exploited to develop viruses, spyware, adware, and other malware. Further, there are vast numbers of machines that are not promptly updated with the patches that do exist, resulting in fleets of vulnerable botnets that actively distribute new attacks to other systems.
@ Hamidxa -- debunking your market share vs security myth:
MS fanboys like you also love erecting smokescreens of misleading information insisting that other more secure platforms are actually somehow at greater theoretical risk. The idea that Apple will inherit Microsoft’s problems is based in the ignorant belief that Windows’ security problems are rooted in its popularity, rather than its poor architectural design (as I pointed in the Ars articles above).
1) Windows malware is cost effective: Today, and over the last two decades, Windows has been plagued with malware because it is easy to infect. And because it is easy to infect it results in the cost of creating Windows malware being much less than the payback malware makers earn.
2) Zero Mac viruses today: In the 90s (days of OS 9) Macs had viruses despite never having more than 8% of the market. Viruses were there because of a weakness, not because of the Mac reaching a certain market share threshold in popularity. Today, days of OS X, Mac once again has about 8 to 9% of the market, yet there are zero viruses. ZERO.
3) Therefore, creating Mac malware would cost more because it is harder to write, harder to keep working, and too easy to clean away. There would be no payback for malware writers because creating a botnet of Macs would be too expensively difficult to maintain. Adding more Macs to the population does not change that.
Go ahead and point out the last time there were waves of real-world Mac malware attacks.
Enjoy your real-world poorly coded, easily hacked, virus-infested, zombie-riddled MS world, jackass.
@ hamidxa
Lastly, it's very amusing that you've actually taken the time to vote all my comments negatively. haha
hopefully sooner than later
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I'm non-discriminatory. Your nationality is irrelevant to the fact that you're a hostile little twit who can't take a joke.
Can anyone explain why there is a horse ??
hmmm isn't april the month that jaunty jackalope is getting released??
linux > windoze
(for the most part, don't hate)
"Do yourself (and the rest of the world) a favor: Seek Help."
Hahaha. That's your best post. I think you're the one that should seek help.
But I don't know what's more ignorant; the fact that you say I'm American without any proof and even me saying I'm European, or the fact that you have such an obvious hate of the "white trash" you talk about.
Really, seek some help.