We haven't seen too many
Snow Leopard screenshots leak out, but it looks like a few more have finally surfaced, and they seem to show some interesting -- if minor -- interface enhancements. Most notably, Stacks now allows nested browsing, so if you click on a folder in the stack view, the old stack drops back and you can navigate the folder contents -- the old way just opened a Finder window. Other improvements include a Put Back menu item for accidentally-trashed items, a redesigned Keyboard Shortcuts prefpane that might encourage people to actually use it, and what looks like a welcome new installer option to only install printer drivers for printers that have been used with your machine. That alone should cut down on Snow Leopard's install size -- now if Apple would just figure out that we don't need 200 language packs by default, we'd be really getting somewhere. All the images in the gallery, and video of the new Stacks behavior after the break.
Update: Flickr user
Stellarolla pinged us to share one more shot showing some preset HDTV modes, check it after the break!
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AppleInsider]
posted Feb 25th 2009 5:55PM
Looks exactly the same except for the grid view. And didn't you guys post this already a few days ago or am I mixed up with TUAW again? You guys are like homie g-doggs
and that extra grid is exactly what they are pointing out hats "new"
i like it...its going to make using the doc a lot easier, especially if you have folders with lots of content
Seriously Dude, is there ANYTHING useful in this product worth me making the switch from Tiger. I am not really used to doing upgrades so frequently.
I have another PC running XP which I bought in 2001. If I had done an upgrade every year, to my OSX, then I would have spent around $1000. My upgrade to Windows 7 is going to cost my around $115 for the OEM version.
Why would I buy upgrade to Snow Leopard ?
Hehe... my school give out new versions of the Mac OS for $10. I'm so getting this.
@kccboy
Depends what computer you have. But if you're still running tiger I think it's safe to say you don't have to bother....
Dont upgrade, I agree its a watse of money. Better put that money in RAM or better GPU.
Why don't people do their research. TUAW and Engadget are owned by Webblogs which is owned by AOL Time Warner.
Yep,
I am starting to think that this whole OSX 10 upgrade after upgrade is just a way to milk more and more money out of us.
OSX 10 Snow Leopard does look a lot like more lipstick on the same pig.
I don't really trust Apple anymore to provide me with value for money. They do just seem to be copying Microsoft; I read that their sales are slipping further behind Microsoft. That would make sense now.
I have been using Windows7 though on my PC and it really does seem to be the real thing. I think Microsoft is going to get my money. At least I know that I won't have to keep upgrading every 12-18 months.
I will probably used my Mac for spare parts. It's power supply is still good. Can anybody recommend a decent FREE version of Unix to install instead ?
Alas, poor Windows. I knew him well! An OS of infinite compatibility, of most excellent fancy: he hath crashed on me a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My Mac mocks it. Here hung those games that I have played I know not how oft. Where be your games now, Vista? Your drivers? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the desktop on a roar? Not one now, to mock Apple's Leopard? Quite market-fallen? Now get you to Windows 7, and not too quickly, let them code an inch thick, to this favor you must come, make Apple laugh at that—Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act V, Scene I
kccboy,
Agreed, this is a waste of money and Apple's way of milking money for incremental upgrades.
Instead, invest that money in Windows 7, because as that Beta has already shown us, it is arguably the best OS on the planet already.
Ill be pirating this. I won't buy another Mac. Maybe other Apple products, but no more Macs for me. Its overpriced, underpowered, and I'd rather build a crysis rig for $800 instead, and hack OS X 86.
What is with that hideous wallpaper? It screams "outdated."
If Snow Leopard is like Leopard, there will be no serial key. for those of you hesitating to upgrade to Leopard because of the price, just borrow someone else's Leopard disc and install it for free. When Snow Leopard comes out, just get a bunch of friends to pitch in and buy the single license and share the disc. Leopard is a dual layer disc btw.
Also, Leopard is $69 at my schools computer store and iWork and iLife are $39 each. Make friends with a student and purchase through them.
@Paul
Even when you're praising Macs you're low ranked.
@Engadget
I see no indication that this is indeed Snow Leopard by the screenshots that have been taken. I could have thrown Leopard on my Hackintosh and named my drive Snow too and installed some things on it and call it Snow Leopard too. I see no improvements otherwise on this. I really hope that this is not what it is going to be like when released or Apple is done. If this is the best they can do, Microsoft will dominate with Windows 7.
why does that icon/app launcher bar look exactly like win7's?
You mean why does it look exactly the same as leopard's? Which has been out much longer than Win7?
Oh man. I think that might be the most perfect flamebait ever.
+1 if intentional.
hehehe, i can't wait. =]]
ranking the troll down because it scores no clever points. try harder next time.
I like the Aero Peek looking live previews and the Aero Flip angled part
Indeed, they have the same Aero Preview and Windows Flip 3D look to them.
Kudos to Apple. Hey Microsoft, its about the software stupid! Windows 7 should have been Vista. I'm sick of unoptimized fatware.
Could have at least changed the background for a new OS lol...
That'll probably happen sometime closer to release.
it should be this
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/20/vaccinated_leopard.jpg
look at that sad little thing...
That will be a feature they will charge extra for!
OSX Snow Lepoard: Desktop Background Special editon, only $99 extra!
They took the time to change the Energy Saver icon but not a new wallpaper...hmmm...
Oh yeah...stack it baby! Oh no...slower stacks...slower.
I want them stacks NOW, dangit!
me too! I have an Applications stack, and having to open utilities in a finder window is uughhhh
I have a utilities stack :)
/smugness
I have my applications stack set to open as a list. (Not a fan, not a grid.)
I can open utilities easily, without opening other folders.
I only wish I could drag/drop onto or out of this list.
Spotlight for app launching is the superior method. Cmd+space+"pag"+enter and pages is running within 5 seconds.
With all these "Stacks" "Glass" and "Fluff" OS X is pushing down our throats these days... I'm finding it hard to actually work on a mac.
I for one am giving windows a second look!
Enjoy Vista!
haha, yeah. I hope you dont DIE!
Yeah i tried that once and the one thing that really pissed me off?
The two things I complained about when I switched to Mac:
1. No "Proper" Maximize
2. Close button doesn't quit the app
Now that I've gotten used to it, using my parents windows machine is so hard when the maximise button...well maximizes... Why do they call it windows when everybody runs stuff full-screen all of the time? And having an app quit when i click the "x"... ugh...
Oh, yes, Windows. Glorious Windows! How much I love thee. Let me count the ways.
1) Windows has encountered a problem and needs to close.
2) The product key used to install Windows is invalid. Please contact your system administrator or retailer immediately to obtain a valid product key. You may also contact Microsoft Corporation's Anti-Piracy Team by emailing piracy@microsoft.com if you think you have purchased pirated Microsoft software. Please be assured that any personal information you send to the Microsoft Anti-Piracy team will be kept in strict confidence.
3) Cannot delete file: Access is denied. Cannot delete Folder. It is being used by another person or program. Close any programs that may be using the file and try again.
4) Windows has detected spyware infection! Windows will now download and install antispyware program.
5) Cancel/Allow?
Wow Paul, if you love those things, don't learn how to properly use Windows... you might start to like it.
I think if you give Windows 7 a look you will be very happy!
I am using it now full time and I think it runs great. No crashes, no glitches and is fast!
I say give it a shot!!!
Oops, forgot the smiley face.
;)
I love the fact that before I even saw Paul A. Chapel's comment it was already downranked.
@Derry An OS X app will quit when the red X button is clicked if that app is designed to run in only one instance at a time. iPhoto and Photo Booth are examples.
Oh My God!
"Put Back", finally it's there!
Thank you Apple. Thank you!
Cant you just hit Apple + Z?
Only if you do it right away, no?
pssh, windows has had this functionality for years. Way to copy Microsoft Apple.
@ Bananarama
What, exactly, is a Microsoft Apple? Moron.
Oh wow, way to copy Windows. Just like Leopard copied Vista's features. Typical Apple "me too" tactics. :P
Oh dear. here comes the torrent.
Haha, I just had to do it. Sorry.
Seriously, when is Engadget going to start banning people like Abuzar? The guy just admitted to trolling.
It was a joke troll, as denoted by the cute ":P" get over it.
Oh, so glad to know that all you have to do is put a smiley face on a comment after violating the Terms of Service and all is forgiven.
/s
1) it was blatantly a joke
2) There's nothing in the terms of use about that. In fact, i can't even FIND a terms of use
3) it's not like you're a pro-apple troll or anything...
i hate Paul A. Chapel
@Paul A. Chapel
:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P
Paul is actually calling for someone else to be banned. That's rich.....
:P
I got tired just by watching the video.
I couldn't use that in routine. Too much useless animations.
Then you must hate Pixar movies.
?? Didn't see that coming...
Wow, so let me get this straight: Microsoft stole the launcher from Apple and made it better, so Apple goes and steals the improvements Microsoft made and implements them in the next version of OS X?
Gotta love the constantly copying of ideas between the two companies.
Nope, you don't have it straight yet. Glad I could help.
Ok, so what did I get wrong?
which improvements? stacks aren't new to OS X. you'll have to be specific if you want a real response.
You mean besides the fact that Windows doesn't have anything that even vaguely resembles Stacks? Microsoft can't "improve" something they don't actually have in their OS.
Someone's never used Windows 7. Zak, there are stacks all over the place. Slide your mouse over the program that's on the start bar and all the windows of that program will pop up all tiny.
And the selection is smoooooth.
I actually have to agree with Zak here. Snow Leopard hasn't copied anything. Leopard had the same functionality as the new stacks, but it was in an unattractive "List" view. The new grid view allows you to navigate folders, NOT applications, the same way that you can navigate folders in List view.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/12/20/stackslistview1_300.jpg
If Apple included a grid view for windows of open applications, THEN it would be blatant copying. However, Windows 7 has no feature that allows you to navigate folders from the taskbar without opening an Explorer window.
@ Josh
right-click task bar, add toolbar, choose folder. (stacks in list view)
Sorry Josh and Zak,
You are both WRONG.
As noted, Windows 7 features this type of functionality already and with a whole hell of a lot smoother response and better polish at that.
@Hamidxa
HUH? You even used Windows 7 or OSX before. I have! The W7 stacks only really offer is shortcuts and recent items. You can't navigate through folders in the stack. There pretty damn boring actually.
Yes W7 is great. Love it. It adds a new taskbar. YAY!
almost,
right-click taskbar
toolbars
new toolbar
voila
You can navigate in and out of multiple folders and files using a simple shortcut such as this
@Hamidxa
Hmm ok... Why can't it be a icon and have the same function? It's like its not intended to work that way. It only works when I shrink
the toolbar to the smallest it can go. Is there something I'm missing?
Anyway.
Stacks does that already. In Leopard. It's called list view.
Right click stack.
Click list view.
Voila.
Leopard also has other view options which are Grid, and Fan (useless but cool).
Snow Leopard from the looks introduces a completely new way of doing list view. But using Grid View. Really cool. :D
I'm pretty sure BOTH systems have had list view for a good while. I remember Windows 2000 having list view and OS X Tiger with list view (Ctrl+Click) on the icon in the dock. I haven't used OS X before Tiger, so I can't speak about list view before then from experience.
I don't like the way the "back button" jumps around depending upon how much content you have in the window. You have to jump the mouse around the screen clicking to back through a bunch of windows.
Command-[
Learn it, use it, love it.
Get a real mouse. I did and a long time ago and it's a time/grief saver.
When I was 12 years old, I teased a snow leopard through the bars of his cage with the strap of my grandmothers camera. (Vivitar 110 with flash) The snow leopard got ahold of the strap and pulled the camera out of my hands, then bounced around his cage like Tigger on meth. The camera exploded, the zoo keepers came and yelled at me, then my gramma yelled at me.
This is just one of the reasons I hate Apple.
Best comment of the day! Maybe even the week!
So very awesome... :)
awesome!
LOL and you got that close to the animal? nice haha
Looks pretty slick. I have to ask, though, why are they calling this Snow Leopard...? Kind of a weird name...
Because it's endangered.
yawn.
mac os 11 anybody?
If I Have Leopard(That's The Most Recent Right..?) Lol, Will I Have To Pay To Get Snow Leopard...?
Thanks!
Yes, Snow Leopard Is Not Free.
@ Josh
What? Am I missing something? Apple hasn't said anything regarding price yet. For all we know it could be a free upgrade for Leopard users.
It's sad to watch people bicker back and forth on who copied who. Micro ends up copying various ideas from Apple, and Apple does the same to Microsoft, they take them and improve upon them, it's the way things go! Every now and then there is an innovative idea, but when was the last time you actually saw some real innovation in either OS? People went crazy over the new iPhoto because it can recognize people's faces and how many people are in a photo, yet no one cared when the same features were put into the PS3 in the Photo Gallery! People praised Apple when they created Time Machine, yet Vista had a similar file ghosting utility, Apple just made an easy to use version. Stacks are still just an enhanced version of the toolbars you can place on the task bar in Windows that can browse folders you tell them too, just a lot more elegantly. I'm sure if you take just about every feature in either OS, you can trace it back to a similar feature in an older version of a different OS.
See with Apple users for whatever reason they are very into the computers they own. You typically don't see that with PC users or at least not as much.
PC people sees a feature and use it and that's that.
An Apple user sees a feature and goes tells 500 people each about what they can do and buy into all the hype and every new feature even if it's not new (like the macbook keyboard since Sony has been using it for a long time) Apple still tries to build a great deal of hype for everything. Not saying it's a bad thing because it works.
Just look at this OS. It is just about the same OS, but they worked on keeping it more stable with a few minor upgrades.
For all Apple users you have agree with what I pointed for the most part.
Devin,
You really are a sh1t disturber :P
You are so Equanimous !
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=equanimous
@adam
So true... Mac OS X (Tiger on my mac) is really good but Apple is so much in the hype, claiming revolution for each feature they add.
Take Spaces for example. Apple presents this as a new feature, so good for organizing your work, etc.
This feature exists for so long on Linux that I think I've personnally never seen a Linux (with WM) without it! So ok, it's new, but for a Mac.
That's great, it looks 99,9% like Leopard, but it's probably more stable than this garbage and I'll have to pay like 150€ for it. Apple fucking rocks!
Finngrinn,
Do you mean "Apple fucks Rocks" ?
And yet its still the same old tired UI that has barely changed since 2000. I stopped using Apple and OS X after it was obvious that they are more interested in the God phone then forward momentum in their OS.
Actually, I am more concern about hardware... Now that MAC have become an Intel pc, they are not going to work better or faster than other pc boxes. If Apple want to gain back where it count (companies, special FX, 3d, render farms) they should make something new and innovative. Only aesthetic changes are just bait for the beta consumer.
As my Adobe suites and 3D apps work best in windows, I am sticking to buying my computers on the cheap from Dell (business line of course, Vostro and XPS.) I dont care if the case is black, it cost peanuts and its good for business.
I did spend 3000$ long time ago for G4 and G5 computers but not anymore. Ive learned my lesson. A 800$ pc will render faster than the last year best mac. Change every year and you are at the top of the game.
No more Mister Nice Guy.
I hear what you're saying man, and that's why I haven't considered buying a Mac for quite some time.
But when you consider the 'best mac', Do you mean iMac? Or Mac Pro? Because I'm sorry, but an 800 dollar computer isn't even comparable to one of those, especially with an Dual-quad Xeon running the show.
Seriously. The "brushed metal" gray is tired. It makes me feel *icky* -- and that includes the iPhone UI.
I couldn't agree more. The more they try and "minimalize" things, the more they uglify it.
Say what you will about Vista, but Aero is damn good looking. It's clean and blends well to however you configure your desktop, and they've only improved it in 7.