It amaze me that Apple has engadget so deep down their pockets that the editors at this site never say anything negative about an apple product without spinning it one way or another. Just look at how the Mac Mini has been updated by comes with a preposterous 1GB of RAM but Engadget haven't even touched on it. The would be firing AK47s in the air if Dell released a $600 with just 1024MB of RAM. Apple posts here are beginning to sound more like advertorials.
from what you said, i take that you haven't really used a mac. therefore i strongly suggest you pop into your local apple store and play with it for an hour or so, then come back and post it. since when has making an excellent product a sin? take your head out of the soil and look around. i have had several apple and dell laptops, i can tell you that, apple laptops costs 50% more but lasts TWICE as long as the dell one, well in fact it's still running without missing a beat. so now you do the maths and tell me which one's the better to go for?
i can still sell my 5-year old powerbook g4 for a good price on the internet, can you still with your 2-year old dell?
Seriously, I am not a fan of apple, but I'm smart enough to realize that engadget isn't "Apple has engadget so deep down their pockets..." I think the engadget editors just seem a little awestruck at times by apple, but i wouldn't say they're rampant fanboys. That being said, I do think it a little odd that no price/power comparison was made to any other laptops.
Sorry I stand by what I say. I don't own a single apple product, in no way am I an apple fanboy...and I still think the OP is an idiot for saying such a silly thing. Of course Derek said it in a more eloquent way, so we'll go with what he said.
@b its kind of funny how mac users tout that the macs have a better resale value, and last "TWICE AS LONG"... 1) at the price of one macbook, most of the time, people can afford two or more hp's (i dont like the dell designs much, esp their logo).. so this point does not have any validity, because even if i TRASH my laptop within 2 yrs, i still lose the same money as i would if i resold a mac... so the mac would have to outlast the PC by more than twice the time...
2) i have never seen a PC laptop last longer than 3 yrs, 4 at the max... which means the mac would have to last 6-8 yrs to get the same return on my investment... but... WHO WOULD USE A COMPUTER FOR 8 YEARS?? especially a laptop? most laptops break within 5 yrs of use or less... so by buying a mac... you're getting ripped off..
@dsid I had a 1998 laptop for almost 8 years. the only reason it broke is because I was running it open ( i was building a lego case for it) and my mom was looking for something on my desk and short circuited it. but other than that it was running without a case for a good half a year (yeah I was slow at getting the parts).
I agree Mac's are expensive but remember delveloping and maintaining your own OS is not cheap. You can also apply this to the industrial design and materials of Apple products along with their shops.
A Windows computer manufacturer pays MS a licence makes sure it all works with the computer they have made and sells it with a bit of phone support for a limited time. Then the user will turn to MS for OS support. Job done.
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It amaze me that Apple has engadget so deep down their pockets that the editors at this site never say anything negative about an apple product without spinning it one way or another. Just look at how the Mac Mini has been updated by comes with a preposterous 1GB of RAM but Engadget haven't even touched on it. The would be firing AK47s in the air if Dell released a $600 with just 1024MB of RAM. Apple posts here are beginning to sound more like advertorials.
qft: "You're an idiot."
Homeboy, feel free to not read engadget. We won't miss you.
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from what you said, i take that you haven't really used a mac. therefore i strongly suggest you pop into your local apple store and play with it for an hour or so, then come back and post it. since when has making an excellent product a sin? take your head out of the soil and look around. i have had several apple and dell laptops, i can tell you that, apple laptops costs 50% more but lasts TWICE as long as the dell one, well in fact it's still running without missing a beat. so now you do the maths and tell me which one's the better to go for?
i can still sell my 5-year old powerbook g4 for a good price on the internet, can you still with your 2-year old dell?
Seriously, I am not a fan of apple, but I'm smart enough to realize that engadget isn't "Apple has engadget so deep down their pockets..." I think the engadget editors just seem a little awestruck at times by apple, but i wouldn't say they're rampant fanboys.
That being said, I do think it a little odd that no price/power comparison was made to any other laptops.
How is that Macbook Air holding up in the hinge department?
@Dustin: Just fine, thanks for the concern.
They must still be paying for that decrease in Apple's share price.
Sorry I stand by what I say. I don't own a single apple product, in no way am I an apple fanboy...and I still think the OP is an idiot for saying such a silly thing. Of course Derek said it in a more eloquent way, so we'll go with what he said.
@b
its kind of funny how mac users tout that the macs have a better resale value, and last "TWICE AS LONG"...
1) at the price of one macbook, most of the time, people can afford two or more hp's (i dont like the dell designs much, esp their logo).. so this point does not have any validity, because even if i TRASH my laptop within 2 yrs, i still lose the same money as i would if i resold a mac... so the mac would have to outlast the PC by more than twice the time...
2) i have never seen a PC laptop last longer than 3 yrs, 4 at the max... which means the mac would have to last 6-8 yrs to get the same return on my investment... but... WHO WOULD USE A COMPUTER FOR 8 YEARS?? especially a laptop? most laptops break within 5 yrs of use or less... so by buying a mac... you're getting ripped off..
@dsid
I had a 1998 laptop for almost 8 years. the only reason it broke is because I was running it open ( i was building a lego case for it) and my mom was looking for something on my desk and short circuited it. but other than that it was running without a case for a good half a year (yeah I was slow at getting the parts).
@ alexicov
Oh and it was a PC.
just to throw that out there in case it wasn't implied
@dsid
typing to you from a 7/8 yr old Toshiba M100.
HD replaced,
DVD-ROM replaced (upped to burner while at it),
batt needs replacing,
power cord replaced (my fault for browsing sideways)
Still working and all necessary parts replaced for less then the cost of new Win-based book, let alone a Mac.
I use a laptop this old because it still works for what I use it for.
Homeboy got a point. We're in 2009 for crying out loud. 1 GB RAM is just not okay, no matter how good Apples products are.
I agree Mac's are expensive but remember delveloping and maintaining your own OS is not cheap. You can also apply this to the industrial design and materials of Apple products along with their shops.
A Windows computer manufacturer pays MS a licence makes sure it all works with the computer they have made and sells it with a bit of phone support for a limited time. Then the user will turn to MS for OS support. Job done.
Thing is, though, OSX runs okay on a gig. Vista, on the other hand, won't.