Heh, no, that's just a picture I took on Sunday after a crazy day of weather -- there was a pretty great rainbow over some old projects here in Chicago.
Yeah, good luck running it at its' native res on that slow as molasses video card.
Heck, good luck running any modern game that came out in the last 2 years at *respectable* frame rates on this system.
For the near $2,000 after taxes and shipping, a person would indeed have to be a fool to purchase this unit for anything remotely as intensive as gaming, even if that game is HL2.
A self-built PC for several several hundreds less than this would run circles around this thing.
Please stop. You are only exacerbating your case here by displaying your ignorance.
Take the Mac Pro for example, every single one of those cards is slow and outdated, generations old by now. The newest card in that line up is the old 9500gt rebranded as the GT120. Even so, it's a relatively weak card compared to NV's latest offerings. (We are on the 2nd iteration of the GTX 2xx series now by the way, welcome to 2008, scratch that, make that 2009, glad you could join us, but not with that 9500 GT you dont!)
Then you bring up the ATI 2400/2600/4850 series cards. You are aware that ATI have 2GB 4870 X2 cards for PC's right, and that they run about 400% faster than the 4850 512MB cards in many a game. Then of course we can Crossfire them for quad-card action.
Same goes for the GTX 295 Quad SLI configs that exist for PC's.
It sounds to me like you're pretty new to this stuff. Macs always have and always will lag behind PC's in terms of technology.
What do you expect when one company design and releases them, and sticks to a 18-24 month release schedule versus the day-to-day schedule that exists over on the PC/Windows side of things.
I bring my Macbook Pro over to my friends house to play Left 4 Dead (I believe that uses the HL2 engine) with Bootcamp. It runs fine at native resolution and medium detail settings. It's not the best gaming laptop out there, but it is fine for offing zombies and it's easier than lugging around my Windows desktop. If you have a friend with the employee discount the price isn't that bad either.
I'm quite saddened how a well-meant joke on my part spawns yet another flame war about a topic so much-thumbed. Hamidxa, have the arguments that you counter so vehemently ever been stated in this discussion? From what I can tell, P.A.C has simply posted a spec list without making any specific statements about the relative/absolute performance of the listed cards. Your polemic reaction doesn't seem appropriate.
"Take the Mac Pro for example, every single one of those cards is slow and outdated, generations old by now."
Um, dude, the ATI 4870 is present generation. The 4890 hasn't even been released yet.
Sure, you can get a 4870x2 for a PC. Of course you can get the SAME CARD for the Mac Pro and Flash It to work in OSX. If you're using windows, use ANY card you want, it'll work as long as it is PCIe. That whole debate of yours is just stupid.
Arguing cards on an All In One like the iMac is a moot point because the iMac actually has the best specs when it comes to that category.
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Does the industrial prison desktop wallpaper come with it?
Damnit, you beat me to it.
Heh, no, that's just a picture I took on Sunday after a crazy day of weather -- there was a pretty great rainbow over some old projects here in Chicago.
Haha, gotta be quick like a mongoose! If this thing came packaged with a series of drab barbed wire themed backgrounds I might consider purchasing it.
@Nilay
Darn. Thought it was a teaser for Half-Life 3.
roundgob,
A teaser for HL3 running on a Mac?
If hell freezes over first...allow me to rephrase that: if hell freezes over at 10 frames per second first...
Actually, you can run Half-Life 2 on Macs using Crossover Games. I saw this video on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPrWplpCQUQ
Of course, my friend runs Team Fortress 2 using boot camp. It runs much faster. Windows runs at natives speeds on boot camp.
PAC Man,
Yeah, good luck running it at its' native res on that slow as molasses video card.
Heck, good luck running any modern game that came out in the last 2 years at *respectable* frame rates on this system.
For the near $2,000 after taxes and shipping, a person would indeed have to be a fool to purchase this unit for anything remotely as intensive as gaming, even if that game is HL2.
A self-built PC for several several hundreds less than this would run circles around this thing.
Another video of Crossover Games and Half-Life Episode 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4LPPP32byI
The great thing about Crossover Games is that you don't have to have Windows to run it.
Here are the cards that currently run on Macs. Those poor Mac users.
Mac Pro
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB
ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 128MB
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB
iMac
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS 512MB GDDR3
ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 256MB GDDR3
ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 128MB
Retail Cards for Macs
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 RAM
ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB
ATI Radeon X800 XT 256MB GDDR3
Oops, I should have added these cards as retail options.
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB GDDR3
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT features 512MB
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB GDDR3
PAC man,
Please stop.
You are only exacerbating your case here by displaying your ignorance.
Take the Mac Pro for example, every single one of those cards is slow and outdated, generations old by now.
The newest card in that line up is the old 9500gt rebranded as the GT120.
Even so, it's a relatively weak card compared to NV's latest offerings.
(We are on the 2nd iteration of the GTX 2xx series now by the way, welcome to 2008, scratch that, make that 2009, glad you could join us, but not with that 9500 GT you dont!)
Then you bring up the ATI 2400/2600/4850 series cards.
You are aware that ATI have 2GB 4870 X2 cards for PC's right, and that they run about 400% faster than the 4850 512MB cards in many a game. Then of course we can Crossfire them for quad-card action.
Same goes for the GTX 295 Quad SLI configs that exist for PC's.
It sounds to me like you're pretty new to this stuff.
Macs always have and always will lag behind PC's in terms of technology.
What do you expect when one company design and releases them, and sticks to a 18-24 month release schedule versus the day-to-day schedule that exists over on the PC/Windows side of things.
Team Fortress 2 on an iMac via Crossover Games. I just love this Scottish kid in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhoetusC9YE
I bring my Macbook Pro over to my friends house to play Left 4 Dead (I believe that uses the HL2 engine) with Bootcamp. It runs fine at native resolution and medium detail settings. It's not the best gaming laptop out there, but it is fine for offing zombies and it's easier than lugging around my Windows desktop. If you have a friend with the employee discount the price isn't that bad either.
@Hamidxa
Thank-you, Rationalization Man. You have saved the village!
Now, let's move on.
Call of Duty 4 on a Mac. Natively.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0mCLieTDhY
I'm quite saddened how a well-meant joke on my part spawns yet another flame war about a topic so much-thumbed. Hamidxa, have the arguments that you counter so vehemently ever been stated in this discussion? From what I can tell, P.A.C has simply posted a spec list without making any specific statements about the relative/absolute performance of the listed cards. Your polemic reaction doesn't seem appropriate.
"Take the Mac Pro for example, every single one of those cards is slow and outdated, generations old by now."
Um, dude, the ATI 4870 is present generation. The 4890 hasn't even been released yet.
Sure, you can get a 4870x2 for a PC. Of course you can get the SAME CARD for the Mac Pro and Flash It to work in OSX. If you're using windows, use ANY card you want, it'll work as long as it is PCIe. That whole debate of yours is just stupid.
Arguing cards on an All In One like the iMac is a moot point because the iMac actually has the best specs when it comes to that category.