Dell's multi-touch Studio One 19 PC makes exclusive debut in Japan
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Mar 12th 2009 2:26AM
posted Mar 12th 2009 2:26AM
Update: Helloooo chubby sexy! Profile and top-down pictures found (thanks LionelatDell!) and dropped in after the break and into the gallery. Who knew that the display was actually offset-forward from the main slab? Nice. And she sure is curvy.
Update 2: PC World got a demo of the new AIO and reveals a $699 starting price (now confirmed by an official press release) when it hits the US this Spring -- a lot more when you start adding the $100 touchscreen option, $200-ish Blu-ray, more memory, etc.
[Via Engadget Japanese]
It doesn't look like there's any significant chub.
why does it matter?
Its a desktop - seriously. I get that it should loo nice, and I get that many people like compact computers, but I really don't see why it would be so bad if this thing was 3 inches thick. I would rather have a well cooled core 2 quad with upgrade possibilities than a toasty and cramped mess (on the inside, of course).
BTW, screen res is meh. couldnt they even do the typical 1440 x 900? 1600 x 1050 is pobably too much to ask for, but I will anyway. Oh, and the option to use it like a table-top tablet would be nice.
Personally, I like to have a bit of meat on the bones if ya know what I mean ;)
1,366 x 768 on a 19" screen? seems a bit low
and capacitive vs resistive... on a glass screen? can you seriously have a resistive glass touch screen? maybe i read this wrong...
It's a touch screen -- bigger interface for bigger fingers.
I agree on both accounts. Leave the resistive screens to kiosks and Waiter-things. They degrade image quality and are obnoxious when large - only ur finger can touch or you get the whole 2 fingrs on a touchpad thing.
it was written kinda awkwardly, but i think what Mr. Ricker was trying to imply was that it's offered in both a touch AND non-touch version... the non-touch version obviously being of glass screened variety. but in the same, awkward breath, questioning whether the touch version featured a resistive plastic panel, or a glass panel with capacitive touch.
It's a dual touch optical screen.
a BIT low? that's really terrible. my laptop's 15.4" screen is 1680x1050, and i love the pixel density.
You probably don't want insane pixel density on a touchscreen unless you have little pin fingers.
Multi-touch? Is Apple going to sue Dell now?
Anyway, why don't Microsoft license the Microsoft surface OS to builders to be used in this kind of system? The HP Touch PC is very clunky to use.
Windows 7...native multi touch support...blah blah...etc
@Superhobo. Guess what, Windows 7 is not out yet.
Guess what, it will be. Soon. And it'll be much cheaper than the Surface OS (which is Vista with multitouch tacked on)
@pika2000
Guess what? You're a moron. Just because Apple created devices with multitouch, it does not mean nobody else can make a device with multitouch. Patents are very specific things, and "it uses multitouch" does not constitute a patent.
@superhobo: Guess what, this Dell is coming out by the end of this month. Is Windows 7 out by the end of March? No. So your point?
@dishbreak: Guess what, you're the moron. I actually put Apple there to show the silliness of patent lawsuits. Don't worry thought, a lot of patent trolls are Apple haters like yourself. Apple is being sued for plenty of things (visual voice mail is one of the more recent one).
How many times do we have to go over this? Touch displays don't make sense on a desktop or traditional laptop form factor! Who is going to hold their freakin' arms out to interact with their computer? Just imagine how awkward and uncomfortable that would be!
Nice to see the Jonny Ive's designs are making the rounds, about 4 years later...
Seriously, how must that guy feel to open the newspaper, and see billions of dollars being spent on his ideas, its amazing...
Anyway, this is pretty cool, I guess, kinda like the HP one, but of course, no one wants to touch the computer screen. So. Yea. Another flop.
The touchscreen is optional. But, there are ocassions I could conceive where it would be easier to just touch a screen and not go to the keyboard or mouse... personally, I'm waiting for units like this to become a portable tablet PC. An affordable one. I would love a 14" or 15" slate PC for around $1000 with touch screen for note taking / drawing.
@loosely_coupled: You're imagining this in a desk setting, where the computer's user sits in front of it with a mouse, keyboard, and now, their arm. I can imagine this in more of a kitchen or living room setting. Maybe there is a chair beneath it for keyboard-mouse use, but one can also stand while using the computer, then typing and mousing would be at an awkward angle and the screen is just within touching distance.
As a long time apple fan, I like it. I want it with leopard. Looks much better than a bulky iMac.
@ Pika:
You're a moron. "Windows 7 isn't out yet." Well, OMG! Pika's complaining that Windows 7 isn't out yet!!!!!! We here at Microsoft better rush a buggy version to market so that the almighty Pika can have multitouch supported on an OS level not tomorrow but today!!!
And even IF Microsoft decided to bring Surface to market, IT TAKES TIME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU DO NOT HAVE A GENIE OF THE LAMP WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!
@pika2000
I don't take kindly to abrasive language over the interwebs, and it looks like flipping your abusive language back at you didn't help anything. So, I'm going to ask you to do more than just insult me.
How am I a "patent troll?" What the heck is a patent troll? And how does what I say make me an "Apple hater"? If "hater" means "not a fanboy" then sure, but that's a definition an Apple fanboy would use. Either you mentioned Apple suing Dell out of ignorance, or you mentioned it as "bait" to make someone else look like a fool--both scenarios don't reflect favorably on you. One paints you as an idiot, the other as an egotist who loves to prove people wrong.
How would Surface OS really help in this instance? Surface seems like something that's meant to be integrated into a desk, not something that sits on top of a desk. Besides, it's really only vaporware at this point, at least to the consumer.
@wickedpheonix: Okay, moron #3. First of all, who started calling other names? Not me. Who wanted for Windows 7? Not me. In fact I pointed out that Windows 7 is not out yet. Is that hard enough for you to comprehend?
@dishbreak: So out of the blue you called me moron, but if it's redirected at you then you get all offended. I said the surface OS would be better because I think it handles multi-touch better than whatever else available based on what HP did on their touch screen desktop.
I use that keyboard at work.... It is garbage. And the mouse edge hurts your hand after a while.
Sensible are you?
Design ques on the monitor are very Apple like. I'd rather have there own style like XPS or something, cut it out with the gloss.
*their
*cues
*Monopolist company which will deceive the average consumer into thinking they make the best products on the planet.
*Monopolist company which will deceive the average consumer into thinking that choosing or using their products makes them above average.
*Yeah I know, I don't like the sentence either... their / them.
No its not the keyboards has number pad on it by default so it can't be applesque!
Monopolist? In computers? Really? Mmmkay.
Here's a shot for your chub index: http://twitpic.com/20vkh.
Thanks,
LionelatDell.
Nice response time.
Way to stuff that chub into engadget.
Duuuuude. Nice, I updated the post. Not chubby, but sexy!
Thomas
Touchscreen on a desktop doesn't make sense at all.
You don't make sense at all.
Very original.
Except if you are a graphic designer, or electronic circuits designer or use Windows 7 or just tired of using your mouse.
It does make sense as your hands make sense to the real life enviroment.
as a freelance graphic designer myself, i still dont find a vertical touchscreen to be of ANY use. now a secondary display within a touchscreen tablet with lightpen would be useful in my line of work.
@Blastar:
I just can't imagine, that working with "outstretched" arms is so comfortable... It might be okay for a while, but you couldn't work too long like this, could you? Well, I must say, I never really used one of those, but that's just how I imagine working with these things... Any practical experience anyone?
@Blastar
Oh, please. Touch screen in a desktop display has never, and probably will never, make sense. Touch screens in a tablet format, on the other hand, does make sense. Graphic tablets are great and Wacom's current Cintiq range is the "best" implementation of touch screen technology for a graphic designer.
The exception to this are things like the HP TouchSmart that is effectively a jukebox. The touch functionality makes sense for things like kiosks but I really don't see anyone using something like this Dell for Photoshop editing on the screen itself. My arm aches just at the thought of it...
I'm waiting for the first company to figure out how to build a screen stand that let's you tilt the touchscreen into a flat or very slightly angled position without much fuss. THEN they become vastly more useful imho.
Actually touchscreens, whilst beign largely pointless for consumers make a lot of sense for business, particularly where scanning and workflow are used to distribute documents. The ability to move windows around is absolutely killer.
This guy disagrees.
http://www.touchsmartcommunity.com/forum/thread/399/Mounting-my-HP-Touchsmart-in-my-kitchen-as-Home-Controller/
/wants one
Wow so a dell that cost more than apple iMac ! iMac is 24". Shame on u dell!!
Playing devils advocate,
this is touch screen, i have never seen a 24" touch screen (Under £2000).
this also has a very meaty processor, the CPUs in iMacs are mobile CPUs.
It also has a (i expect 2x) BD ROM drive, instead of a Supermulti, and actual BD film oplayback codecs too.
(Although what use BD video is on that resoultion i do not know...)
In summary, they are different machines for different people. With Windows 7, this will be a very desirable machine.
"(Although what use BD video is on that resoultion i do not know...)"
You can't even distinguish between 1080p and 720p on displays under 40" most of the time. I can't imagine why you think the resolution (720p) is an issue...
Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't multitouch = capacitive? I thought multitouch wasn't possible on resistive.
U thought wrong. If you think about it , nobody ever said that resistive couldn't do it, it's just that they didn't build it.
This link will tell you everything.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/
It looks good albiet a bit thick, my only complaint is the 1366 x 768 screen resolution, the screen res on my MacBook Pro is 1440x900 and that's only a 15 inch display, and most 24 inchers have a 1920x1200 (1080p quality) display, including the new iMacs which are 38 bucks less in USD. So without starting a flame war I think we safely say that this puts the whole "Macs are overpriced" myth to rest.
oh and before anyone says anything about the lack of Blu-Ray on the iMac, which is a valid point when it comes to price, one also remember that it also has a very fast FSB and DDR3 Memory as well, which we don't yet know about this dell.
Yeah, but the iMac doesn't have touch screen, right?
Well if anything, it's actually a good thing that iMacs don't have a touch screen. I'd much rather have a 24" non touch screen than an 18" touch screen. Plus Apple is probably working on a touchpad/touchscreen if the recent rumors about ordering small touchscreens is to be believed.
@cg
So what you're saying is that it's a good thing Apple don't have a touchscreen on their iMac but also a good thing that they're developing one.
OK.
If it's quad core, it'll undoubtably be DDR3. My guess would be a Q8200.
Edit: I missed the "Quad" after Core 2 so ignore the last half of my post
C2Q or C2D or not, i'd rather pay more for any brand, not just Apple, for a computer that works... and if it doesnt work, for a company that provides proper support to rectify the situation and not brush me off for 12 months until the warranty expires.
I'll ignore the third half. What are you going to do about it, huh?
It's thicker than the iMac, but it's also not nearly as wide, and it has a real processor in it.
Let's see your Windows take real advantage of 4 cores... And WTF wider, that thing has like 2" borders on the sides, iMac doesn't have nearly that big borders and for the STARTING price of that Dell you can buy an 24" iMac. That's a win by 5 inches. I guess that Dell will be WAY over $2000 with C2Q and touch screen. I'm just so sick of people yelling that iMacs are expensive - THEY ARE NOT if you consider the form factor and compare them to all-in-one PCs.
I never said the iMac was overpriced or expensive. I never said it was a better or worse deal than this Dell. All I mentioned was its thickness. By the way, my only computer is an aluminum MacBook and I love it to pieces.
"Let's see your Windows take real advantage of 4 cores"
What an incredibly naive thing to say. People like you are the reason Mac users aren't taken seriously. Thanks a lot.
Damn I was planning to carry this machine around in my pocket, I'll guess I'll have to buy an iMac then since it's less thicker.
Andrea, perhaps you should read my entire comment before responding to me. I never stated that the thickness was an issue at all. Engadget's the one referring to it as "chub", so take it up with them. I mentioned its thickness as a strong suit.
@aethos
"Let's see your Windows take real advantage of 4 cores"
You are joking, aren't you? Please tell me you're joking.
Everyone knows only OSX can use more than one core, duh.
Windows just *pretends* to, and it just *pretends* to perform better, but actually doesn't!
Um..the Dell starts at $699. iMAC starts at $1199. So...explain to me again how I can buy a 25" iMAC for $699, cause I'd love to know!
I really wish the was an edit button. 24" iMAC.
I've seen multitouch software implementations over resistive screens.
But I think that if it is glassy, it will be capacitive
Blu Ray Laptop drives cost the earth at the moment.
However they are the only choice in this sort of machine.
Regular 5.25" are huge.. i think they will die out in due course.
Lots of relatively affordable laptops have Blu-ray drives now. The VAIO AIO is also pretty cool in this regard.
A bit cheaper and it'll be nice.
This sort of price isn't that unusual for Japan. If it launches here it won't be as high.
699$ US
Why NVIDIA GeForce 9400??
So far the Paladin is offering the best gaming Desktop experience...
I bet you can get a better card in the options... drop the touchscreen and bluray, get a better card and you gopt yourself a pretty solution on the cheap. (ho, maybe drop that keyboard too... still as it is leather, its probably better looking in real)
why on earth would you buy an AIO to game on?
Not to be such a killjoy, but I've seen better laptops. Not that this isn't good, it's just that this is for light gaming an multimedia (except for storage).
Something tells me that AIO buyers couldn't care less about playing Crysis or similar heavy stuff with full details and specs...
So you have seen laptops that are cheap and have quad core processors?
That is one sweet looking machine
Interesting how Engadget is making social commentary here. So now chubby and sexy are mutually exclusive?
:) i love to stir up trouble
Its always expensive in japan... People have like to pay premium here. In few month the price will drop to USA like level.
Its a nice computer. Cool to see a quad in it at such a small price.
Fugly
For 699$ its a freaking sweet machine...
everyone shut up about iMacs, this isn't an iMac its not trying to be and there's no reason to bring it up other than to protest your distaste for all things not mac, and in that case, wtf are you doing posting here.
Woot for ports on the side! much more useful than that other AIO that forces the user to go to the back of the computer for ports.
Looks sweet. I'm definitely looking for an aio desktop and this just moved high up on the list.
To folks who are wondering. Touch is an option on the Studio One 19. If you don't want it, you can buy a non-touch version.
Every new touch device moves us another step in the right direction...
Wow.
I think that looks pretty damn nice..I've heard people saying the screen boarder is too wide, do they not realize that the screen is raised up off in front of the system giving it a nice two tier look. Also nice to see a choice of colours, something I think apple should do with there imac/macbook, similar to the Nano. Plus I already own that keyboard and mouse set with my Studio XPS 435MT, there made by logitech which is given away by a tiny logo inside if the laser mouse's housing and are very good quality!