Yes, this beauty is more expensive than the Prius but it also uses a newer technology and they haven't sold 1,000,000+ Teslas yet so their cars are bound to be more expensive than the mentioned Prius. Over time the cost of this technology will come down to levels the "Average" American can afford.
Moreover, the LIFETIME ownership cost of a Model S is much cheaper than similarly priced, or even cheaper, cars due to the fact that you don't have to pay for gasoline. Also, because it is PURELY electric you don't have to pay for very much maintenance such as $35+ oil changes every 5000-10,000 miles, $170+ spark plug, timing belt etc. maintenance every 15-20k miles etc. You won't have to replace the brake pads as often either due to the slowing from regenerative braking.
Yes, initially the cost of the Model S is a decent sum but overtime it's cheaper than similarly priced cars from Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc.
Personally I love AWD vehicles since I live in a place that gets decent snow so I am waiting to see what the price tag of the AWD Model S is after a $10,000 tax credit, which is a combination of $7,500 federal and $2,500 state.
"And just why should your employer pay for theelectricity to charge your vehicle?"
They shouldn't. There will be metered outlets to charge your vehicle. It will cost your pennies a day.
"do they have someone filling your tank with gas every time you park in their lot?"
No. I go to a gas station. Replace the "gas" in "gas station" with "electricity" and you'll start to get the idea. Only you won't have to go anywhere to fill up. You'll park, plug in, and forget about it. They are already providing parking - why wouldn't they provide an outlet that lets them generate more revenue? Its added value.
Of course that's if you live further than 150 miles (!) from where you work. Most Americans don't drive 50 miles in a day, much less 150 mile one way. In fact, if you did, you'd be spending about 6 hours a day in your car (@ an average of 70 mph).
I'm not expert in the field of construction but it seems to me if employers were to offer charging at the office you would have some significant costs. It's not like there are power outlets already existing in a typical parking lot. You will need to run power to each spot AND provide some sort of station to plug into. AND you have to supply the electricity. All that infrastructure cost is going to require more than just a few pennies a day. Even at $1/day it would take years to pay off that type of a set-up.
Much more likely, companies will have a few of these stations set-up. The cost will be much more - maybe $5 to use it. Employees would generally avoid the refill station because they charge up at home. Only those in a pinch will pay a premium for a recharge.
Even more likely, battery technology continues to make leaps and bounds in terms of both efficiency and cost. In 10 years batteries will go 500+ miles and you'll be able to afford a few extra to store in the trunk. That would really limit the need for these stations at places like the office.
Everyone keeps talking about these car's lifetimes... I admit that I don't know specifics, but don't li-ion batteries have short lifespans? I know the li-ion in my laptop has been losing more and more of it's capacity and I've only had it a year.
I do agree this car is about weaning cars off fossil fuels. But it's Musk himself who decided to brag about the financials of this car. If you have a problem with the concept of doing that, take it up with Musk.
BMWFanatic: Right now the 0-60 time of a Tesla S is about two years. Any Prius will reach 60 a lot sooner than that.
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I can get a Prius for $24,000 and it will cost about $10 to drive 230 miles in that.
So, saving $20 per 1,000 miles, I only need to drive about 1.5 million miles to break even.
this car isn't about saving money. it's about starting to get cars away from burning fossil fuels. and yes, I know electricity is not 100% clean.
It's cleaner on the West Coast than it is on the East Coast and getting cleaner in the next year or two.
Haha, and anybody in the Tesla S will smoke your ass at a light too! 5.6 seconds to 60... how long does it take a Pruis to get there?
Yes, this beauty is more expensive than the Prius but it also uses a newer technology and they haven't sold 1,000,000+ Teslas yet so their cars are bound to be more expensive than the mentioned Prius. Over time the cost of this technology will come down to levels the "Average" American can afford.
Moreover, the LIFETIME ownership cost of a Model S is much cheaper than similarly priced, or even cheaper, cars due to the fact that you don't have to pay for gasoline. Also, because it is PURELY electric you don't have to pay for very much maintenance such as $35+ oil changes every 5000-10,000 miles, $170+ spark plug, timing belt etc. maintenance every 15-20k miles etc. You won't have to replace the brake pads as often either due to the slowing from regenerative braking.
Yes, initially the cost of the Model S is a decent sum but overtime it's cheaper than similarly priced cars from Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc.
Personally I love AWD vehicles since I live in a place that gets decent snow so I am waiting to see what the price tag of the AWD Model S is after a $10,000 tax credit, which is a combination of $7,500 federal and $2,500 state.
"And just why should your employer pay for theelectricity to charge your vehicle?"
They shouldn't. There will be metered outlets to charge your vehicle. It will cost your pennies a day.
"do they have someone filling your tank with gas every time you park in their lot?"
No. I go to a gas station. Replace the "gas" in "gas station" with "electricity" and you'll start to get the idea. Only you won't have to go anywhere to fill up. You'll park, plug in, and forget about it. They are already providing parking - why wouldn't they provide an outlet that lets them generate more revenue? Its added value.
Of course that's if you live further than 150 miles (!) from where you work. Most Americans don't drive 50 miles in a day, much less 150 mile one way. In fact, if you did, you'd be spending about 6 hours a day in your car (@ an average of 70 mph).
"Idiot"
You seem like a really, really angry guy, mikeg.
I'm not expert in the field of construction but it seems to me if employers were to offer charging at the office you would have some significant costs. It's not like there are power outlets already existing in a typical parking lot. You will need to run power to each spot AND provide some sort of station to plug into. AND you have to supply the electricity. All that infrastructure cost is going to require more than just a few pennies a day. Even at $1/day it would take years to pay off that type of a set-up.
Much more likely, companies will have a few of these stations set-up. The cost will be much more - maybe $5 to use it. Employees would generally avoid the refill station because they charge up at home. Only those in a pinch will pay a premium for a recharge.
Even more likely, battery technology continues to make leaps and bounds in terms of both efficiency and cost. In 10 years batteries will go 500+ miles and you'll be able to afford a few extra to store in the trunk. That would really limit the need for these stations at places like the office.
Everyone keeps talking about these car's lifetimes... I admit that I don't know specifics, but don't li-ion batteries have short lifespans? I know the li-ion in my laptop has been losing more and more of it's capacity and I've only had it a year.
I do agree this car is about weaning cars off fossil fuels. But it's Musk himself who decided to brag about the financials of this car. If you have a problem with the concept of doing that, take it up with Musk.
BMWFanatic:
Right now the 0-60 time of a Tesla S is about two years. Any Prius will reach 60 a lot sooner than that.