Oh boy, from the looks of that picture the only perquisites for using the updated da Vinci Si surgical system are video game skills, a preference for interacting with the physical world on a high-def display, and an abnormal interest in robots. Sound like anyone you know? Intuitive Surgical's
latest robotic system features two separate HD optical channels that the manufacturer claims will give "highly accurate depth perception" when merged. The surgeon console features touchpad control of the video, audio, and system settings while providing "precise, dexterous control" of a an extensive array of surgical tools held by the robotic flanges. Perfect for all your minimally invasive, WebMD-inspired home surgery needs when not
performing transplants at county. Check the video after the break -- amazing is an understatement.
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posted Apr 7th 2009 5:54AM
That thing looks kinda creepy. I reminds me of Doctor Who and that machine that created the cybermen.
"You will all be upgradet"
DARN! It's upgraded UPGRADED!!
glad there is another doctor who fan out there. and that cybermen machine sounded like it hurt.. a lot.
The iPhone already has an application to run that new DaVinci just by using the touch-screen and accelerometer. Touch to position, shake to cut. There's an iPhone application for just about EVERYTHING.
Hey this looks just like the spoof on robotic medicine by Look Around You: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ppAM5aPXA
Your technological and biological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile, we are BORG!
Ok so where do I sign up for the HUD and shield mods?
I'd also like some titanium reinforcement upgrades please. ;)
Looks good to me.
I for one welcome our new surgical robotic overlords.
I also welcome a complete video record of any surgery for later perusal and lawsuits.
hehe cool video and scary pictures...future is close :-)))
Having actually used one of these (they did a tour and came to our campus), I can say that it's every bit as intuitive and awesome as they advertise. $1.6 million per complete unit, though.
That is absolutely incredible i want one programmed with that apprentice tech and some hands so i could teach it to play playstation and then have it pwn everyone.
My father just had a cancerous kidney removed with this system. Everything went well. I wasn't driving, so I don't know how else to compliment the system :)
This is a real technological marvel.
surgeon controller for ps3 soon available. "Doc Stars" will be released next xmas
I just posted a link to this on my twitter @raphaelmalikian:
daVinci Si robotic system = VERY cool. Would LOVE to play with one or have one at home just for S's & G's
...coming soon from Massive Dynamic.
At the hospital I work at, Bronson Methodist Hospital, we've been using it for a while now and its great! The hospital put on a "tech petting zoo" allowing not only employees to try it out (not actual surgery) but anyone walking by. I tried it and was able to move the small instruments around even smaller objects placed on a tray. Truly amazing stuff.
Yeah, we got one at my hospital too. The company did a demo presentation and I got to play on it. The cool part was when one of our trained docs tied a suture. I watched and thought, "I could do that." I wanted to challenge him lol.
The best part was when they let an 8 year old play on it. He could barely fit in the control scheme, but was able to move stuff around with ease.
There's something both impressive and horrifying about a multi-armed robot equipped with a scalpel, knowledge of human anatomy, and programming which instructs it to (very accurately) slice and dice.
Let's not get carried away here. The robot doesn't know how to operate. Nor can the robot place the ports through the abdominal wall through which it accesses the abdomen. And in reference to the OP, it takes a hell of a lot more than being good at video games to be able to use this to take out someone's gallbladder, appendix, or uterus. Still need years of traditional surgical training. As impressive as this thing is, it's still nothing more than a very elaborate tool that allows the surgeon to do surgery. Speaking from a surgeon's perspective.
Its already in many hospitals in the US. My previous research shows that this is the biggest surgical breakthrough in ages. I know someone who had prostate surgery using it, and his recovery and lack of complications normal with prostate surgery amazed me. Its clean, precise, non invasive and totally preferable to hands on surgery.
"Wait, which organ did I click on?"
There are no feet on the person in the picture. Maybe because the machine took them off while fixing the hernia?
MEDIBOT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ppAM5aPXA&feature=related
"Perquisites" means benefits, as in the "perks" you get at work. "Prerequisites" -- required prior conditions -- is the word you're looking for.
I was actually getting afraid no one was going to point this out, and what kind of place would the internet be if we couldn't point out the flaws in others?!
Here is a set of videos talking about the use of the robot with people talking about how it went. It really sounds like it is the wave of the future. Best of all, less time in the hospital.
http://www.urologysanantonio.com/Uploads/Flash/Player/index.html
I work as a Biomed in a hospital which basically means i repair medical equipment. my hospital has 1 of these and i got to play with it here and there. let me say, it's awesome. it's just as precise as it should/has to be. while it isn't a money maker for the hospital (apparently we lose money on cases where it's used) it does help bring business. definitely an awesome piece of equipment.
And this all goes away with the Obama health care plan. This kind of innovation does not happen under socialized medicine, or is legislated away as "too expensive", despite the incredible positive impact on quality of care.
Really too bad, my sister-in-law uses one of the earlier generation da Vinci robots almost daily for prostate and bladder cancer surgery, and they are amazing devices. Recovery time is minimal and complications are dramatically reduced.
Sigh.
Your analysis is disingenuous; profit-based medicine is morally aberrant and you have exactly zero proof, besides you say-so, that single-payer healthcare stifles innovation. Your argument is in the same intellectual league of that of a creationist arguing that a structure such as the eye cannot have evolved on his own.
You of course realize that the nouns in your "argument" can easily be swapped, as you have precisely as much "proof" for your competing proposition?
Oh no! Doctor Octopus from spiderman!
Doctors will be outsourced in the next 10yrs. Welcome to the club, you've been targeted as over paid.
It's operated by a surgeon. That's the only way it can work.
It's not cost effective, very expensive.
The image is showing a multiport laparoscopic surgery being performed using it, which is a bit stupid. The real benefit of Robotic surgery would be performing Single-incision laparoscopic surgery (SILS) through the umbilicus, through which only a handful of surgeons can do advanced procedures without the robot (am working with one of them now).
It doesn't look so sexy once it's wrapped in all the requisite plastic bags.
Hook it up to the net and the surgeon can sit in any cheap labor country of choice. Who says the surgeon needs to be in the same room.
Exactly. They've already had 1 heart-surgery completed via a trans-Atlantic internet connection.
Though the idea of outsourcing to Indians and Malaysians frightens me.
You still need a surgeon in the room, in case the shit hits the fan and the patient needs to be opened.
Think about it. The hospital can buy the machine and doctors from around the world can rent time on the machine to perform operations. You can see your doctor via a 2 way teleconference.
The patient purchases a procedure and the revenue is split between the hospital and the surgeon. The machine could be scheduled around the clock since doctors can be in any timezone.
The surgeon can specialize in specific minor surgeries. The patient can pick their doctor online since surgeons of the futures will be like picking a seller on ebay with procedure history and ratings available for all to see.
Then the line is cut by a falling tree and you die, or the surgeon lags and keeps cutting across your inferior thyroid plexus: he would clearly need to be in the same building for obvious practical considerations.
we got to try it out at work, this thing is amazing.
I hit play and saw the amazing machine... then I noticed the ad that popped up at the bottom of the video... one for prostate surgery in my area then I looked back at the amazing machine and thought of Doctor Octopus. I shudder to think if anything went wrong what kind of damage it could do...
I don't care what the circumstances are, I would be terrified to have that thing looming over me.
well that would be the case with your avatar too...
I've used one of these things before, they are AWESOME. It's like playing a video game with somebody else's life.
Looks like the Doc machine from "Logan's run"...
My thoughts exactly.
So, is anyone else reminded of the "New You" scene in the movie "Logan's Run"?
As I remember, it didn't end well for the Doctor.
.. ME-DI-BOT! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ppAM5aPXA
;)