Psystar Open(3) manages to ship, gets unboxed by lucky customer
By Darren Murph 
posted April 16th 2009 1:29PM
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True about the multiple processor support. That is why I do like dual processor xeon setups. Its the single processor setups that i think are useless for almost everyone. In this current generation the nehalem xeon chips and the core i7 chips have the same exact cache. So that is not an advantage anymore.
I have one thing to say to apple on this... capitalize on the netbook market now and let the PC users get a taste of greatness on the only systems they aren't likely to alter beyond your control!
Once they've gotten a sampling of Mac OS X for themselves and willingly... then maybe, just maybe, their next desktop machine might just be a Mac!
Best declare your dominance now before the Windows 7 blitz crashes the party...
Guys,
They're purchasing an UPGRADE copy of OS X. OS X is subsidized by the so-called Apple Tax on Mac hardware. That's a major reason why this is an issue for Apple.
Where do you get this information?
My copy says Mac OS X 10.5.6 RETAIL right on the side.
Retail
@mkozak8350:
Hacks aside, OS X retail REQUIRES a Macintosh. Why do you suppose that is?
So that they can control and manipulate every little thing?
No. It's because OS X was never intended for, nor priced with the expectation that it would be used on computers not purchased from Apple.
These are a fail to me. Their customer is usually one of 2 types
1 - People who want a Mac at a lower price, but aren't OSX86 savvy.
2 - People who want a Mac at a lower price, but are OSX86 savvy.
It's as simple as this. Group one doesn't need Psystar. They may or may no be computer literate, but they don't care. They want a Mac that is built buy Apple, and thusly is supported by Apple. If it breaks or they run into problems, they more than likely bought Applecare and will just bring it into a store. My girlfriend's PBG4 has had many issues, and every single one has
Group two knows better, and would sooner build their OWN machine and do their own OSX86 thing, perhaps with a family pack dealie from a laptop lisence. They probably don't need the amount of horsepower of the Mac Pro, or feel they could build it cheaper, whatever. So they do just that. They can cop a Power Mac G5 or Mac Pro case, and even have the closest of lookalikes.
The point is, Psystar can eat my balls. No one should buy a product that is supported BARELY at best by a two-bit company that STOLE a community developed item like OSX86 and sell them in just over ho-hum spec machines. Buy a Mac, or build the damn clone yourself with a legitimate lisence.
PBG4
Is that Packard Bell G4, or Pretty Blue G4?
Try Powerbook G4, asshat. Nacho PATA, also nacho average PhD material either apparently, are we toughguy?
Your failure at any kind of humor astonishes me.
that's only funny if it remotely makes sense
It just seems like "stealing" because they are basically charging an upgrade price for their OS since they are assuming (wrong of course) that the only people buying it already have their OS.
They should just charge 2 prices, and upgrade price, and a full version price. That way they can charge 300 dollars for it and people will think twice about purchasing it. I really don't care either way honestly. Most everyone I know that has a mac doesn't even really know how to install software because they think it's so easy. They all end up running a ton of mounted drives on their desktop. Then you have your ever so mighty "my mac is better than everything because I do graphics" until I argue it sucks balls for doing 3D which is now included in nearly any graphics degree. Oh joy, you can do C4D, because That's awesome as hell. *obvious sarcasm*
Actually, it is in fact very easy to install Mac software. You just drag and drop. The more sophisticated apps (like photoshop, iWorks, and so on) have an installer like Linux or Windows. No one I've ever seen has ended up with a pile of mounted drives on their Macs.
"my mac is better than everything because I do graphics"
Strange how people in some groups like to fabricate statements about people in other groups and then start accusing them about those very same fabrications.
It's an obvious iPhone imitation. Look at the rounded edges and the straight sides. Shitty imitation tho, the colours all wrong and it's a mousepad.
Apple invented the rounded rectangle:
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt
anyone know what case this is?
Uhh, it IS a retail disc. You could get it from any store. The way they install it is the EFIX chip. It's this awesome thing that you plug in via USB and it allows you to install OSX retail on tons of machines.
I love that Psystar is still shipping! Bravo!
We would all still be living in caves if people didn't improve on what others have done. Somehow people are missing that a Monopoly means total control over a product or product line from assembly to distribution. It's illegal because it eliminates the person/s doing it almost as well, but cheaper, and that hurts the little guys. The average Joe. The majority of people in this world are the little guy. Psystar is not getting rich of this deal. They have to be paying for the OSX, and it's been stated numerous times that sells for $129 Someone stated that the Open(3) sells for $600. $129 out of $600 is a pretty large amount. Then there is the hardware. No one can honestly say all the hardware is less than $250. With that in mind way over half the price is hardware, so your basically paying someone around $100 to go the the store get everything, assemble it, test it, wrap it up nice, put it in any box it will fix it, and then ship it. GAS is expensive! Who ever these guys ar they are not getting rich. So the this hurts Apple bottom line, just can't be reasonably argued. Psystar is not pumping out enough of them to make up for the loss revenue in time alone, much less the procurement of hardware, and software. Now for the Granny gets screwed angle, sorry but granny knows she isn't buying a Mac. That is most likely why she is looking at the Open(3) in the first place, she's on a fixed income you know, she aint got all that scratch to be throwing around just to look cool for all the kids.
It's been argued that it tarnishes Apple image. Well that doesn't hold water, because it so not some guys on the corner selling what when you look in the box is a Mac Pro, but you get it home and it doesn't even work. You know what you are buying when you buy it. The real of the matter would be that these guys are doing FREE R&D for Apple. It's not arguable that Apple isn't beyond grabbing some free code when it works. The BMW not selling motors is a load of *^*%$ because anyone can go buy a BWM and build a car around it, and BWM won't care one bit. Unless that homebrewed BMW is out at the tracks kicking ass. Then they would just hire the people that did it to design them that car for the road. Well at least that is what they would do if they were smart.
Trying to say that Psystar is stealing really isn't a good argument , unless it's found that they high
jacked a shipment of retail OSX and then selling it to the consumer. The only thing left there is that if they were completely and quite convincingly pirating the OSX, Which i doubt, because to produce all that copycat material would cost so much, that the end cost of $600 would end up being a give away. If Psystar is that altruistic, and people want to persecute them there is a fundamental problem with existence period. No they are making a few bucks, not much but some. Yet not enough to even blemish Apples bottom line. It's not scuffing that pretty white finish either. It's opening a what to is some people a brand new world. That could very well become total converts, which only helps Apple. What does Apple really want me to do more than anything right now? That would be buy an iPhone and a Mac Pro, give them $99 more and join the iPhone development program, and start pumping out iPhone apps a plenty. So they can make some more off me. So they are making you pay them more than is necessary to be allowed to give them more money, to basically work for them. If that doesn't sound like the worlds biggest case of repeated rape then we are all Screwed. Ok I went a bit far with the rape, but eyes need to be opened. All Psystar is really doing is lowing the cost of membership to Apple fancy Country Club. The wide eyed hopeful entrepreneur that doesn't already posses the abilities to make their own Hackintosh. So people that do get offended that someone is allowing all the common folks to run rapid on the gold courses. Everyone knows it's a hardware hack, and not a software rewrite, that would be entirely to expensive to produce, it would have to cost more than the original, for some guys in a garage or small warehouse to put all together. That would require some serious backing. Then there would be an issue, but just making hardware and injecting some code to fool the install disk into thinking it's Apple brand housing is not stealing. Getting your feeling bent out of shape because you had to do it yourself and the Psystar buyer didn't is petty. Getting upset because you paid more when there was a cheaper alternative ha. Well you shouldn't have been fooled into purchasing that Monster. Oh that's right I went there! I'm a naughty boy. Apple trying to shut Psystar down is Fascism lite. The license agreement doesn't hold water, because the You can not enter into a contract as a corporation with a single person without that person having some legal representation. That's equates to lawyers swindling laymen. The fact no lawyer has brought that up only shows that the lawyers are in it to make as much off everyone as possible. There is this great thing called generic! One only has to change something 10% to bypass patents. This Open(3) meets that with looks alone. The fact that a judge threw Psystar's Antitrust-Claims out before they were even even aloud to be raised under proceedings. They are just as worthy of being heard as Apples Copyright and Patent infringement claims. Psystar guys you need to bring that up to your lawyers, they need to file to have the judge replaced. Court is supposed to be fair , and that's just not measuring up.
Apples IP is not damaged by Psystar. Not the software, nor the hardware side. Because this lucky individual was able to receive this Open(3) means that the Psystar guys are not "Stealing" anything, or they would be in jail, and not shipping anything. They are most likely injecting some code during the initial few instances of the install that doesn't alter the OS, but fools the installer. Which means that Apple promised someone bigger than them their software was more secure than that, and that certain someone is pissed to find out it isn't. So Apple wants to squash this before the story goes viral. You might think it's common knowledge, but you would be flawed in that logic. I bet if you went wround and asked 100 people what they thought about Psystar, and 90 would say, "What? What do I think about what?"
Psystar's business model of Make it, Make it Work, and Make it Cheap is what drives advancement. Apple you can't have your cake and eat it too. Yes I know and understand full well that phrase really has no meaning, and that it's redundant ironical nature does not advance my point. Yet that common phrase is said merely (