So the entire article boils down to "Once it was set up, this thing was awesome.... but we couldn't find the power inlet and needed to use the included keyboard for five minutes on initial setup"? And the *ENTIRE ARTICLE* is about the second half of that sentence?
Very typical MS bashing article from engadget, sometimes I wonder if these are just their opinions or they were paid by apple to write such nonsense all the time.
oh come on,they got paid for damaging microsoft in peoples opinions and they do it right. just like a google ad but it doesn't have ADS BY AOL FOR APPLE in bottom
You're right, I totally get paid by Apple. That's why I wrote this post about a Microsoft product consumers can't actually buy that doesn't compete with anything Apple makes. You caught me.
Nilay, mock and joke as much as you want, but I swear even a deaf blind guy could spot your biased tone from the first word in every article you write about Microsoft.
Screw Microsoft, but have some self respect when doing your job.
Honestly the accusations that Engadget are getting paid by Apple are laughable. Sure a few of the writers may have a bias or two but it's no where near as bad as that other site.
J: One quick, super-effective option is to not read Engadget.
Chris, I'm confused. Aren't you one of the editors for Engadget or Engadget Mobile? So why are you telling certain readers not to read the blog for suggesting to be less biased? I mean certainly, readers are entitled to their opinions just as much as Editors and if you want your opinions to be respected, then you shouldn't certainly disrespect their opinions.
And I like many, enjoy reading Engadget, and I thank you for all the hard work you put in. However, these kinds of blatant articles bashing MSFT and your comment and shutting down commenting system altogether for a certain article may have lost your credibility from many readers, and certainly from me.
cj: I am an editor here, yes. Fact is, if you're going to make a comment personal -- as J chose to do -- I'd personally rather not have you as a reader. We love our readership, we love our vibrant commenter community, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
at nilay: im sorry i didnt mean to upset you,maybe you do it without knowing it. at chris: yes we are obviously idiots. do you know why? because we keep reading this blog. some kind of addiction to your fast and good work about tech word but when it comes to microsoft and apple and google(your android hyping system) i dont think this kind of opinions are real or in better word this kind of opinions could come together in one blog. if you are normal persons with different views theres could not be this kind of systematic microsoft bashing post in certain times. i live in a dictatorical country and with tanx to this fact i know what mind washing in news is.
@ nilay : nice to see your bias strikes again. maybe you could just stick to fawning over apple? let someone else handle the tough job of covering MS, preferably someone that demands a little more professionalism from themselves.
@ chris: really? calling readers idiots? telling them you would prefer they not read engadget? If you can't maintain a more professional attitude, perhaps it's you who should go elsewhere.
"Fact is, if you're going to make a comment personal -- as J chose to do -- I'd personally rather not have you as a reader."
Chris, can you explain to me why you calling them idiots is not personal, but asking for a way to filter a specific author's articles is personal?
The fact is, the majority of the staff on Engadget looks favorable upon Apple and unfavorable against Microsoft. And that is OK, there is no rule that blogs need to be bi-partisan, but don't try to make it sound as if you are calling it down the middle and those that disagree with you are "idiots" - because when you make it personal, you are not doing yourself any favors. If you do want to try to make it look like you are playing both sides of the fence, then perhaps you should hire on someone who is a Microsoft fan, not Apple fans who try to pretend they can be objective.
Well Engadget... The new post has been up for a while now and you haven't linked as you said you would. A brief summary: The surface is awesome, Microsoft was very helpful and most of the confusion was the fault of the user, not Microsoft.
Nilay, I can understand why you're getting upset. You're getting jumped on by a lot of people... but you made an article about a guy who couldnt find a power plug and then used his quote to sensationalize it. You basically took his over reaction (from his own stupidity) and then ran that against Microsoft.
I wouldnt be surprised to see you link a blog where a guy blamed Microsoft for all his financial problems because he used Microsoft Money. That sounds like an exageration but the sad part is, it's the truth. None of us would be surprised by that and that should seriously alarm you.
@ favouritism in blogs. Fact: When you have a popular blog you get free stuff from manufacturers, when you favor a certain manufacturer you get even more free stuff. Now think about it, if your getting it for free and your getting allot of it, favoring Apple is a no brainer. You get more for it if you sell it and the stuff left over all matches and looks good with your furniture.
Oh Boo Hoo! It seems all the Microshat fanbois have gotten their panties in a buch over crticism towards their fearless leader and their crap products. Surprising!
quite a thin argument you got there Nilay, this wasn't directly aimed at you but as you and anyone who has been reading engadget for a while by now know that engadget regularly demonizes some brands while insanely praising others, i.e. apple vs ms or nikon vs canon, etc.. using in most cases very pointless comparisons. It is not what your article says, it is how it presents it, there is a clear effort to bash the manufacturer or the gadget you are trying you talk about.
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So the entire article boils down to "Once it was set up, this thing was awesome.... but we couldn't find the power inlet and needed to use the included keyboard for five minutes on initial setup"? And the *ENTIRE ARTICLE* is about the second half of that sentence?
welcome to engadget
Welcome to Nilay's posts. How do I get an Engadget feed that filters Nilay?
Very typical MS bashing article from engadget, sometimes I wonder if these are just their opinions or they were paid by apple to write such nonsense all the time.
oh come on,they got paid for damaging microsoft in peoples opinions and they do it right. just like a google ad but it doesn't have ADS BY AOL FOR APPLE in bottom
You're right, I totally get paid by Apple. That's why I wrote this post about a Microsoft product consumers can't actually buy that doesn't compete with anything Apple makes. You caught me.
LOL arash got pwnd.
C.K. and arash: You're idiots.
J: One quick, super-effective option is to not read Engadget.
Nilay, mock and joke as much as you want, but I swear even a deaf blind guy could spot your biased tone from the first word in every article you write about Microsoft.
Screw Microsoft, but have some self respect when doing your job.
Honestly the accusations that Engadget are getting paid by Apple are laughable. Sure a few of the writers may have a bias or two but it's no where near as bad as that other site.
Chris wrote
C.K. and arash: You're idiots.
J: One quick, super-effective option is to not read Engadget.
Chris, I'm confused.
Aren't you one of the editors for Engadget or Engadget Mobile?
So why are you telling certain readers not to read the blog for suggesting to be less biased?
I mean certainly, readers are entitled to their opinions just as much as Editors and if you want your opinions to be respected, then you shouldn't certainly disrespect their opinions.
And I like many, enjoy reading Engadget, and I thank you for all the hard work you put in. However, these kinds of blatant articles bashing MSFT and your comment and shutting down commenting system altogether for a certain article may have lost your credibility from many readers, and certainly from me.
cj: I am an editor here, yes. Fact is, if you're going to make a comment personal -- as J chose to do -- I'd personally rather not have you as a reader. We love our readership, we love our vibrant commenter community, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
LOL Patel! Anyone recalls Glengarry Glen Ross?
at nilay:
im sorry i didnt mean to upset you,maybe you do it without knowing it.
at chris:
yes we are obviously idiots. do you know why? because we keep reading this blog. some kind of addiction to your fast and good work about tech word but when it comes to microsoft and apple and google(your android hyping system) i dont think this kind of opinions are real or in better word this kind of opinions could come together in one blog. if you are normal persons with different views theres could not be this kind of systematic microsoft bashing post in certain times. i live in a dictatorical country and with tanx to this fact i know what mind washing in news is.
@ nilay : nice to see your bias strikes again. maybe you could just stick to fawning over apple? let someone else handle the tough job of covering MS, preferably someone that demands a little more professionalism from themselves.
@ chris: really? calling readers idiots? telling them you would prefer they not read engadget? If you can't maintain a more professional attitude, perhaps it's you who should go elsewhere.
"C.K. and arash: You're idiots."
"Fact is, if you're going to make a comment personal -- as J chose to do -- I'd personally rather not have you as a reader."
Chris, can you explain to me why you calling them idiots is not personal, but asking for a way to filter a specific author's articles is personal?
The fact is, the majority of the staff on Engadget looks favorable upon Apple and unfavorable against Microsoft. And that is OK, there is no rule that blogs need to be bi-partisan, but don't try to make it sound as if you are calling it down the middle and those that disagree with you are "idiots" - because when you make it personal, you are not doing yourself any favors. If you do want to try to make it look like you are playing both sides of the fence, then perhaps you should hire on someone who is a Microsoft fan, not Apple fans who try to pretend they can be objective.
Well Engadget... The new post has been up for a while now and you haven't linked as you said you would. A brief summary:
The surface is awesome, Microsoft was very helpful and most of the confusion was the fault of the user, not Microsoft.
http://kinesismomentum.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/skin-deep-usability-take-2/
Lol Nilay's articles are usually kind of 'dragged on' unless of course its an Apple product.
Nilay, I can understand why you're getting upset. You're getting jumped on by a lot of people... but you made an article about a guy who couldnt find a power plug and then used his quote to sensationalize it. You basically took his over reaction (from his own stupidity) and then ran that against Microsoft.
I wouldnt be surprised to see you link a blog where a guy blamed Microsoft for all his financial problems because he used Microsoft Money. That sounds like an exageration but the sad part is, it's the truth. None of us would be surprised by that and that should seriously alarm you.
@ favouritism in blogs.
Fact: When you have a popular blog you get free stuff from manufacturers, when you favor a certain manufacturer you get even more free stuff.
Now think about it, if your getting it for free and your getting allot of it, favoring Apple is a no brainer. You get more for it if you sell it and the stuff left over all matches and looks good with your furniture.
Oh Boo Hoo! It seems all the Microshat fanbois have gotten their panties in a buch over crticism towards their fearless leader and their crap products. Surprising!
quite a thin argument you got there Nilay, this wasn't directly aimed at you but as you and anyone who has been reading engadget for a while by now know that engadget regularly demonizes some brands while insanely praising others, i.e. apple vs ms or nikon vs canon, etc.. using in most cases very pointless comparisons. It is not what your article says, it is how it presents it, there is a clear effort to bash the manufacturer or the gadget you are trying you talk about.