We like how you're thinking,
AMD, and we don't say that everyday -- or ever, really. During a time when even hardcore gamers are having to rethink whether or not that next-gen GPU is a necessity, AMD has pushed out a remarkably potent new graphics card for under a Benjamin, and the whole world has joined in to review it. The ATI Radeon HD 4770, which was
outed just over a week ago, has been officially introduced for the low, low price of just $99 (including rebates, which should surface soon). Aside from being the company's first mainstream desktop GPU manufactured using a 40nm process, this little gem was a real powerhouse when put to the test. In fact, critics at
HotHardware exclaimed that this card "offers performance in the same range as cards that were launched at the $299 to $349 price point only a year ago." The bottom line? It's "one of the best buys" out in its price range, and even with all that belt tightening you've been doing, surely you can spare a C-note, yeah?
Read - HotHardware ("Recommended; one of the best buys at its price point")
Read - XBit Labs ("the best budget graphics accelerator [out there]")
Read - LegitReviews ("great performance, low power consumption and low noise")
Read - PCStats ("strikes a balance between performance and price")
Read - TechSpot ("an outstanding choice in the $100 graphics market")
Read - NeoSeeker ("a good value")
Read - PCPerspective ("impressive")
posted Apr 28th 2009 2:02PM
Can it run Crysis?
Very well
Should be able to, yeah.
Yes, yes it can and for less than the cost of one high end card you can get two and run crossfire.
Can it run GTA4?
My brother's HD4850 runs it quite decently at 720P resolution and medium settings with a C2D.
lol 720p is very low res.. I run at 1280*1024 which is not much higher so my 1GB 4850 can run GTA IV just fine too. But at res
or a better question, will it push 4 monitors?
It has become a standard question to ask whether a GPU can run crysis... analogus to the way people used to ask whether the new iPhone update was going to have Copy & Paste.
Just imagine what it could do if ATI hadn't gimped it out of the gate. I am sure it is just a matter of time until we see the 4870 or 4890 shrunk down to 40nm.
I've been waiting to buy one of these! Newegg has a bunch that all look the same...
Don't forget [H]ardOCP:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTY0MywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
Is there a newer hipper game I could ask if it can run? Crysis seems a bit dated now.
Yeah, GTA IV
try GTA4 :P
GTA IV, but for its senseless coding rather than its graphics.
ok. im not hatin or anything but it CLEARLY says my comment was a minute earlier than yours, kenzya.... what gives, engadget??
I always have to go to my e-mail to approve a comment. I technically posted before you :)
PONG!
ah phooey... ok. you win. high ranks to both of us for educating thain here :D
GTA4 is processor limited as much as it is GPU limited, though.
Duke Nuke'm forever is juuuuust around the corner.... I promise!
I have learned. If you are not a fan of the ATI Catalyst Center either, I will understand. I really like Nvidia cards. They were the first to support Windows 7.
No.
Oh so im not an Win7 then ? Fail.
amazingly fast, cool and cheap! perfect!
Brilliant move..... Cheaper cards make for more people buying them..... Where is the rest of the graphics card world on this?
Put a huge passive heatsink on this and you may have a deal.
I have a 4850 from Gigabyte with no fan. $144. Not as cheap but a faster card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125258
wish they could put this on my vaio fe660g
I will buy one when the cards sold at newegg have the heatsink on the memory and the gpu not just the gpu.
I'm a n00b. Can I crossfire this with a Radeon 3850 1GB DDR3? Should I get this or the Radoen 3850 x 2?
Nope, you can't mix 3800 with 4800 series :) Don't get the 3870X2 either just get a 4870 or 4890 :)
I take that back...I'll just get a 360.
first time on! how exciting.
I wonder if two of these in crossfire would be faster than a GTX275? I read through a few reviews, but they didn't test Crossfire.
http://en.expreview.com/2009/04/28/first-look-at-radeon-hd-4770-crossfire-benchmark.html
rebates are now up...
How does this stack up to nVidia offerings? Is it similar to a 9800 level card?
Why not just check the benches?
It competes well with the 9800GT, trading the lead by a few fps depending on the benchmark, and is a little behind the 9800GTX+ (but very close in a few benches.)
looks like almost the same with 9800GT, which is also < $100 with rebates and stuff.
I have been looking for a replacement for my 9600GT that I have had for almost a year and a half now, but I need something that uses one 6-pin PCIe connection and draws the same, or less power (I don't want to upgrade my PSU as well). The 4770 almost hits the nail on the head.. less power consumption and one 6pin, but it is only a minimal upgrade compared to my 9600GT =[. I think I will hold off until a slightly better card comes out with AMD's 40nm process.
Win
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4770launch/6.html
GTX 250 1920 x 1200 = 51.75 FPS on Core i7 FC2
Maybe you should READ the benchmarks before making comments.
Maybe you should shut up and not talk about something unrelated.
I got a 9800 GTX and can run literally anything crysis, Far Cry 2, COD4 and 5 Maxxed on 1920 x 1200. And when I say maxed I mean EVERYTHING at max including Anti Aliasing and full filtering. I get a steady 160-200 FPS in COD4. And high 50s with FC2 and Crysis. Why? Because I am running a Core I7 920 with unlocked multipliers. I honestly thought I would be getting rid of my 9800 when I bought it and upgrading to something more beastly. I think a lot of people are overlooking how much performance gain you get out of this new platform and would rather stuff 1000$ worth of graphics cards into a dated expired platform. My vote is upgrade to an I7 if you have the money, grab one of these
Hmmm.. strange.. some of the reviews above use i7 procs and don't match your results there guy.
Are they unlocked? I also use a stripped OS, very stripped. Plus it is a GTX + not just a GTX. Also..... I have a 150 gig SAS drive at 1500 RPM so hey maybe I'm just deranged, or maybe a benchmark on some doucheballs comp is not the end all be all of the potential of a particular platform.
Ya the GTX 250 is identical to the 9800 gtx+ and the benchmarks do match, guy. Maybe you should know wtf you are talking about before opening your chops.
Well the reviewers list their system set ups.. pretty much all of them are i7's but I didn't notice anyone overclocking them. They are getting closer to 30FPS in Far Cry 2 but also aren't OC'ing or using 15000RPM hard drives (I'm assuming that's what you meant). But I somehow doubt your OC'ing efforts are getting you nearly 100% performance boosts over professional reviewers who are very good at setting up systems.
The GTX+ is also a more expensive (30%-50% depending on brand) card that uses 90 more watts at load... but yeah, it's a good card.. don't see anyone denying that nor do I see anyone claiming you need a $400 card to game at high performance. It hasn't been that way for a good 2 years.
By the way.. the 30FPS I mentioned in FC2 is fairly consistant accross all the review systems that are using core i7's.
Relax dude.. I'm not exactly sure what your problem is.. I'm just pointing out that your numbers are nearly double the FPS of what professional reviewers are claiming with the card you own.... it makes your claims rather suspect IMO.
You can't really compare benchmarks of articles to your own unless you grab the FPS at the exact same scene in the game as they do. Many reviewers also use an average.. meaning they can get 100fps just standing around, and drop to 30fps in heavy action, and average it out to 65fps, where many users will just post the highest FPS they can get. (not saying that is what you did MK, just making a point)
Also, I've used a heavily stripped down version of XP, and also played games in 64-bit vista, and only had maybe a frame or two difference in performance between the two. As long as nothing is actively running (taking up CPU cycles), and you have enough RAM, the OS doesn't have a huge impact on gaming performance.
I have a Shuttle with a 250W power supply. I saw in one of the reviews that the max power usage with this guy under load was 245W. Would I need to upgrade my power supply to use this card?
Yes
Depends on the other components in your system, as well as how old your PSU is.
If you want to check, and you know all the components you have in your system, use a good online wattage calculator. Also make sure your PSU has a 6pin PCIe connector.
Here is a link to a good PSU calc:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
As proprietor of the Northern New Jersey Home for Abused and Battered Tech, I have experimented with nearly every OS. Bottom line is that nVIDIA still has the drivers that work for virtually all of them regardless of age. I can stick a GeForce 2 card from the 90's in just about any PC and get it to work with any distro. On the other hand, ATI hardware of virtually every ilk still represesents one of my biggest challenges with alternate OSs and millions of people around the world are also struggling with the ATI chipset in their lappies. I'm no fanboy--all I know is that nVIDIA graphic system work with little or no drama irregardless of age.
Would I buy one of these $99 cards that look great on paper? Probably not, considering the above. Penny wise and pound foolish.
Don't forget Bit-tech's review as well:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/04/28/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4770-512mb/1
Hey MK, perhaps you should READ the review you linked to. They listed 51 FPS for the GTS 250.. problem is you linked to a review that says NO AA was on.
It also doesn't mention other settings in FC2. That same review states 40FPS with only 2x AA on, and again, no other mention of settings.
Meanwhile:
http://hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-Radeon-HD-4770-40nm-GPU/?page=6
32 FPS for your card
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4770_8.html#sect0
22 FPS for your card
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2392&page=10
18 FPS with 8x AA on...
I'm not going to continue.. you claimed with everything maxed (and you said, I mean EVERYTHING and mentioned AA and AF) you were getting in the "high 50's" with FC2/Crysis..
The reviews, including the one you linked to directly contradict that statement...
So relax and enjoy your games.. but don't BS.
Oh and just in case you didn't get the point:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/04/28/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4770-512mb/5
ZERO AA and 25FPS with Crysis....
And just in case you were wondering.. "Intel Core i7 940 processor (operating at 3,709MHz – 22x168.6MHz);"
They have a better proc then you probably OC'd higher than you for their test.. and again... ZERO AA.
This will be a weird question and a weird place to actually ask.
But, I currently have a 7800gt and AMD athlon 3700+ would it be worthwhile to upgrade my card to a 4770 or 9800? Or am I looking at a significant bottleneck somewhere here?
I'd say it would be a good upgrade for you. Your new bottleneck will be your processor if you get this or a 9800, and you'll have a good card for when/if you upgrade that. I just bought one of these and I'm currently using an 8600 gt. A year ago a card that performs like this would have cost two to three times as much. You'll definitely see an improvement over your 7800gt.
Will it works on a mac?
I really wish I had spend my 2000$ on a PC sometime... my mac is fine for skype and internet but any games I try just stutter until I give up. It really piss me off that we cant update with bargain like this. Why the hell cant we just install what we want?!