Leaked Palm Pre Gesture Guide lets you get some finger-flicking practice in early
By Paul Miller 
posted May 25th 2009 1:13PM
posted May 25th 2009 1:13PM
posted May 25th 2009 1:13PM
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It was the gestures that I did inside of the sleeping bag that sent it to the cleaners in the first place.
Nice!
going back in application requires a gesture?!?!? BACK in a sense of HW button on iPhone or HW button on Ericsson or HW button on any other phone?!? (click - back one step, click and hold - back to standby)
and HW button is for very very useful (sarcasm) task switching? I would rather have gesture for task switching (I am not pre-masturbator obviously)
FAIL!
and now, low rank me, but I don't care about morons taking a phone that can't receive a phone call while browsing a net (spring network limitation)
@cowgaR
...what?
At cowgirl
You're an idiot. Way to hit reply to the first post so people can see you're stupid comment. And it can receive a call when you're on the internet, just can't browse AND be talking.
@ Cowgirl
1) Your comment would get low ranked simply based on the fact you replied to the first post in an effort to force people to read your mindless drivel. That aside, it would also get low ranked because .... it's mindless drivel
2) Please do your research prior to posting. A phone call takes priority over web browsing so if you are surfing the web, that session would be paused to allow for the phone call. This is not just a Sprint (or "spring" as you call them) thing, my GF's Verizon smart phone does the same thing.
Finger flicking practice... Lol
Just like picking your nose!
They should have simulated the screen. It kinda looks like they want you to do gestures on the back of the phone.
Uh, except not since it's obviously the front of the phone?
What?
Yeah, after just perusing through a couple of the slides, I'm left feeling like the gestures aren't all that intuitive.
But I've seen them done on video and know that they are which leads me to believe they shouldn't have a pamphlet showing people how to use gestures with a photo of a phone that is powered off.
Could that be any blurrier?
That's quite a few gestures. . .no wonder they sent demo units out to stores early.
haha very very similar to the iPhone... what? does that mean its shit now too??
I know I'll be low-ranked for this, but my honest-to-goodness impression, reading those, was "wow, it's no wonder Apple threatened to sue Palm".
- I don't know if Apple patented the "pinch" zoom gestures, but I'd never seen them before the iPhone and they're certainly not obvious.
- Deleting a list item by dragging it to the side is also walking mighty close to the litigation line.
- Flick-scrolling. Again, I don't know if Apple "invented" this, but I wouldn't have much trouble believing that they did. It was one of the "wow"-inducing moments of the first iPhone demo, so lots of people thought it was pretty new then.
- As does the gesture for dragging and dropping which involves holding an item first to turn the grid in to edit mode (what, do the items start to wiggle around, too?). I'm not saying drag and drop in all forms is ripping off Apple, but turning the grid in to edit mode by holding an icon certainly is. They could have done it any number of different ways (e.g. double tapping the icon you want to move and making the second press a drag to the new position).
@KarlW: If Apple could sue they would've already done so. The fact that they haven't tells me they've got no case. Most likely because they didn't actually invent the gestures but just ripped them off someone unknown and made them popular, you know, the same thing they did with coverflow.
Picsel implemented the flick-scrolling years before Apple. They probably patented it. At least they're suing Apple for patent infringement.
@ wrabbit,
If you we're gonna sue a competitor for patent infringement, what would be the point in suing for a product that hadn't even hit the market yet? I have a feeling this thing isn't over yet, Apple are probably biding their time, waiting for the Pre to hit the market first before making their move.
@ KarlW,
*sigh*....Apple, as usual, had nothing to do with inventing the pinch/zoom gestures. They have no ground to sue Palm, which is why they aren't.
Link #1 : Multi touch explained
http://www.billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html
Link #2: Steve Jobs explains how 'Apple is shameless at stealing ideas'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
"If Apple could sue they would've already done so. The fact that they haven't tells me they've got no case." - wrabbit
Hmm, you obviously don't know how these legal things typically work. Fail.
"Most likely because they didn't actually invent the gestures but just ripped them off someone unknown and made them popular, you know, the same thing they did with coverflow."
Apple *bought* Coverflow from the original developer. Fail again.
Of all the possible leaks.. seriously?
on the back of the Palm Pre user guide:
for more information go to : www.engadget.com
Finger flickin' good
Assuming the best way to teach a novice user is by:
1. turning off the phone
2. open the gesture manual
3. digest all the possible combination of gestures
4. Turn on the phone, and start gesturing....
5. Happy Gesturing...
Shouldn't there be a video for this kind of thing? people don't read these days....not to talk about flicking fingers and pages to learn something......
That's why you broadcast ya self...right?
i second that!
There is probably an intro video like on most devices.
Will you guys shut UP about that already? J....F...C...! Today just happens to have lots of news that just happens to be mobile-phone related. Get over it.
Shouldn't it be obvious that this isn't real? You'd expect Palm/Sprint to have Pre images of somewhat decent resolution. Even I could get better pics than that off Google images.
The mixed resolutions (fonts/vectors being hi-res, images being low res) are a result of saving a PDF optimized for the web. Images get down-sampled and vectors get compressed.
Judging by the pink cut-marks, this will probably be a printed out.
The branding is consistent, as are the gestures. It's legit.
Most interesting thing there is the gesture to select text. Since we didn't know about this, i assume the people with the emulator haven't tried this, meaning we don't know if you can select text like taht in the browser or not. I'm guessing you can.
One interesting bit the scroll quickly and tap to stop scrolling on page 6. If this does allow some kind of auto scrolling that would be cool as using your fingers to scroll to the bottom of a site like engadget on your iphone is a pain in the ass. However i have a feeling this is not the case and it’s going to be exactly like the iphone’s implementation.
it'll probably be like the HTC devices, where it keeps scrolling for a while depending on how hard you flicked, or until you tap to stop
ok, i think this enough advertising for the palm pre now...
Anyone else notice how awful the pictures of the Pre itself are in every leaked thing recently?
sorry, that awful your seeing is just the pre itself not the pictures. If anything the blur makes it look better, sort of like beer goggles.
At least it has a physical keyboard.
Unfortunately it seems that they have confirmed there's no longer one-touch access to the launcher as I feared in an earlier post.
That makes no sense to me whatsoever, but it's not a dealbreaker for me.
It's not confirmed, it's just not there. all the other vids and stuff have shown it there.
Are you talking about when you slide your finger up and hold it there. It brings up the "wave" (for lack of a better term) launcher?
No, I'm talking about how it used to be that you could just flick up quickly to bring up the launcher. Now, they specifically say that flicking up brings up the card view. There needs to be a way to quickly access the application launcher with one press. I know you can use the wave launcher to pull up the application launcher, but it was much better how it was before. At CES, you'd press the button for card view, and flick up to bring up the application launcher. Now, both bring up card view, making it redundant.
Actually, once "up swipe" brings to card view. 2nd "up swipe" will bring up launcher.
Or you can just hit center button and "up swipe"
Well, there are probably more phones coming out in the month of June that probably till Christmas. So yeah, there is going to be a lot of mobile phone news.
I know what gesture I want to give this phone.
tool
I can't wait for the Pre-sident of all phones!
http://twitpic.com/5xoii
Just brilliant.
Oh, a pun. (-1)
Whether you like the iPhone or not, you have to admit: this is way more complicated than the gestures on the iPhone. Seriously, are you going to remember any of that during your first week of using this device? The learning curve seems to be very steep. This is one of the reasons why "multi-tasking" was not introduced on the iPhone. Multi-tasking complicates things even further.
Yes, complicates things further for people who are too stupid to use copy & paste in the first place. It's fine for the rest of us non-sheep.
lol "gestures too complicated" - best explanation for no iPhone multi-tasking yet.
Just press the exclamation point whenever one of these iTrolls post in a Pre topic again.
They obviously aren't posting anything other than drive-by comments.
Do it enough and Engadget will likely yank their accounts.