If there are no lines of a weak sales it will be due to Palm having dragged on the launch of the device for too long. The candle of the Pre is burning out now, especially when Engadget and Gizmodo's review has highlighted some quality issues with the device.
Most importantly, the device should have been launched in April to be a hit, but instead Palm has picked a horrible date to ship the device out to the stores -- two days before Apple present their third iteration of the iPhone. I mean, what were they thinking? They had the chance to shine during the spring when a new iPhone was distant but now when it's a few days away from public unveiling, all the early adopters will be holding on to their money to money in wait and anticipation for what Apple has to offer. I'm not an Apple fanboy by any means and I'm all for competition, hell I have a Zune80 but Palm's timing is simply poor. And manufacturers should stop unveiling phones 6 months ahead of launch because the phone often just end up looking ordinary when it hits the store.
No matter when anyone launches anything, some dipstick will show up to point out some Apple event, and tell us how "bad" the timing is.
Macworld
WWDC
Back-to-school
Christmas
It's the same old song and dance that somehow a company NEEDS to time their product around Apple, as if people are just so stupid that they cant evaluate products side by side and come up with a purchasing decision on their own. Maybe this is the case for teens and nerds online, but most people have the tendency to test and use a variety of devices before they settle.
If Palm sell out the initial stock of Pre phones, no matter the size, they can be assured that it will be noted in the press. On top of that, people will be seen with them. Folks will ask about them, and buzz will develop. Palm can run the ads at their own pace.
It's not like everyone's contracts end at the same time, and Apple is the one that has to keep the hype machine at 100% 24/7 or they look bad. Palm needs to keep it at 50% and rise it up slowly.
Look_around_you: Apple is a part of Palm's external environment and is a very important competitor and I don't need to tell you what an impact the iPhone has had on the cellphone market. In isolation the Palm-Pre is a highly innovative phone that should be on everybody's radar, but evidently the mass will compare it to what ever Apple has in their stores. And it's the very mass that has the power to rescue companies like Palm by clearing out their inventory.
The Pre stood all alone in the lime light when it was presented a few months ago and that should have been the time to sell it, everybody was starstruck and everyone wanted it -- but it was nowhere in the shop. As much as you might hate it, all the eyes of the world will be on the iPhone next week and Palm will have lost a golden opportunity to make a huge splash because people will be comparing it to the unofficial benchmark of touch screen phones, the iPhone. It's the sad reality I'm afraid
@ Look_Around_You: it's not Apple's fault Windows Mobile sucks. Can't you vent your Microsoft-induced rage elsewhere? Your constant anti-Apple tirades grow tiresome.
"According to your list, Apple has all four quarters of the year tied up for phone launches. Macworld, WWDC, Back-to-school and Christmas."
That's pretty much how it's always presented by Apple's fans. You apparently cant launch a product based on some Apple press rally. It's never based on the merit of the device or service, it's just that Apple gonna say somthing.
Companies should just completely ignore their press stunts and launch/announce when they see fit.
If tech blogs and fanboys get pissy that it's getting in the way of an Apple show, then oh well!
@ Look_Around_You: it's not Apple's fault Windows Mobile sucks. Can't you vent your Microsoft-induced rage elsewhere? Your constant anti-Apple tirades grow tiresome."
Yeah, because everyday I tell people that Apple's products suck and that you should never ever buy anything from them, and instead should buy from company X, right?
Have fun finding the post where I do that.
That is the type of garbage you and you fanboy friends peddle in. Engadget has to contract out for all of the "low ranked" signs that have to waste on you clowns.
The title of the article itself is a beacon to ifanboys to get in their iToldYaSo's. If they truly felt the Pre was no threat and beneath notice, they would not be trolling pre forums and desperately trying to influence opinion.
Pundits heavily favored the PS3 to be the dominant console of this generation because of the PS2's "unstoppable" market share and the prodigious horsepower of the device. They were wrong. I point this out not to say that the iPhone/Pre situation is identical, but to make the point that past performance is not a guarantee of future success, and the mighty do fall. What has kept me from buying an iPhone is AT&T service and the plan costs.
Personally, I think that the Pre strikes a nice balance between the entertainment capabilities of the iPhone and the business utilitarianism of a blackberry. It will have some kinks as all 1st gen products do. It's nice to see Palm back on the cutting edge. We'll see how things shake down.
there are a ton of people on sprint that have been waiting for this phone and will buy it because there are no better options. a huge majority of this country is locked into some kind of contract that doesn't allow for switching carriers on a whim...sure there is the g1 on t-mobile and the iphone on att, but that doesnt help me if i signed a 2 yr contract with sprint last year or if i don't read tech blogs on a basis
Homeboy is absolutely right. The Pre would've been a bigger hit had it launched months earlier. In business and marketing, timing is everything. Does anyone in here really think that Palm's decision to sell the Pre 2 days before WWDC was an accident? Obviously, that was the best they could do from an engineering standpoint, but without that limitation, Palm would have sold the Pre months ago. If Apple announces the new iPhone at WWDC with even half the rumored upgrades, then I see trouble for Palm. I think it'll do well out of the gates like Android, simply because of the novelty factor, but I don't think it offers enough to stall the current gen iPhone's success, let alone the next gen.
The Cobra Tag may help you win that losing battle, acting as a Bluetooth device that attaches to your key ring and connects to your phone, it gives you the opportunity to find the missing item if it's less than 30 feet away.
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If there are no lines of a weak sales it will be due to Palm having dragged on the launch of the device for too long. The candle of the Pre is burning out now, especially when Engadget and Gizmodo's review has highlighted some quality issues with the device.
Most importantly, the device should have been launched in April to be a hit, but instead Palm has picked a horrible date to ship the device out to the stores -- two days before Apple present their third iteration of the iPhone. I mean, what were they thinking? They had the chance to shine during the spring when a new iPhone was distant but now when it's a few days away from public unveiling, all the early adopters will be holding on to their money to money in wait and anticipation for what Apple has to offer. I'm not an Apple fanboy by any means and I'm all for competition, hell I have a Zune80 but Palm's timing is simply poor. And manufacturers should stop unveiling phones 6 months ahead of launch because the phone often just end up looking ordinary when it hits the store.
@Homeboy: I disagree. With all of it.
@homeboy That's just nonsense.
No matter when anyone launches anything, some dipstick will show up to point out some Apple event, and tell us how "bad" the timing is.
Macworld
WWDC
Back-to-school
Christmas
It's the same old song and dance that somehow a company NEEDS to time their product around Apple, as if people are just so stupid that they cant evaluate products side by side and come up with a purchasing decision on their own. Maybe this is the case for teens and nerds online, but most people have the tendency to test and use a variety of devices before they settle.
If Palm sell out the initial stock of Pre phones, no matter the size, they can be assured that it will be noted in the press. On top of that, people will be seen with them. Folks will ask about them, and buzz will develop. Palm can run the ads at their own pace.
It's not like everyone's contracts end at the same time, and Apple is the one that has to keep the hype machine at 100% 24/7 or they look bad. Palm needs to keep it at 50% and rise it up slowly.
Look_Around_You
According to your list, Apple has all four quarters of the year tied up for phone launches. Macworld, WWDC, Back-to-school and Christmas.
The Pre will be a success and the generation of the phone will be even better.
But when the first NVIDIA® Tegra™ based phone is released, watch out Apple and Palm.
Look_around_you: Apple is a part of Palm's external environment and is a very important competitor and I don't need to tell you what an impact the iPhone has had on the cellphone market. In isolation the Palm-Pre is a highly innovative phone that should be on everybody's radar, but evidently the mass will compare it to what ever Apple has in their stores. And it's the very mass that has the power to rescue companies like Palm by clearing out their inventory.
The Pre stood all alone in the lime light when it was presented a few months ago and that should have been the time to sell it, everybody was starstruck and everyone wanted it -- but it was nowhere in the shop. As much as you might hate it, all the eyes of the world will be on the iPhone next week and Palm will have lost a golden opportunity to make a huge splash because people will be comparing it to the unofficial benchmark of touch screen phones, the iPhone. It's the sad reality I'm afraid
@ Look_Around_You: it's not Apple's fault Windows Mobile sucks. Can't you vent your Microsoft-induced rage elsewhere? Your constant anti-Apple tirades grow tiresome.
"According to your list, Apple has all four quarters of the year tied up for phone launches. Macworld, WWDC, Back-to-school and Christmas."
That's pretty much how it's always presented by Apple's fans. You apparently cant launch a product based on some Apple press rally. It's never based on the merit of the device or service, it's just that Apple gonna say somthing.
Companies should just completely ignore their press stunts and launch/announce when they see fit.
If tech blogs and fanboys get pissy that it's getting in the way of an Apple show, then oh well!
@ Look_Around_You: it's not Apple's fault Windows Mobile sucks. Can't you vent your Microsoft-induced rage elsewhere? Your constant anti-Apple tirades grow tiresome."
Yeah, because everyday I tell people that Apple's products suck and that you should never ever buy anything from them, and instead should buy from company X, right?
Have fun finding the post where I do that.
That is the type of garbage you and you fanboy friends peddle in. Engadget has to contract out for all of the "low ranked" signs that have to waste on you clowns.
Look_Around_You, your comment history is the very epitome of fanboyism.
Self-reflection. Try it sometime.
Look_Around_You, your comment history is the very epitome of fanboyism.
Ok, since you are such an expert of me, give some examples of this.
But I believe that your posting history is a better study in that. Although I'm sure you will lie and say otherwise, or likely not respond at all.
How the hell did Chapel get a highly ranked post in a non Apple article??
What the hell is wrong with you people?
@greggo:
The title of the article itself is a beacon to ifanboys to get in their iToldYaSo's. If they truly felt the Pre was no threat and beneath notice, they would not be trolling pre forums and desperately trying to influence opinion.
Pundits heavily favored the PS3 to be the dominant console of this generation because of the PS2's "unstoppable" market share and the prodigious horsepower of the device. They were wrong. I point this out not to say that the iPhone/Pre situation is identical, but to make the point that past performance is not a guarantee of future success, and the mighty do fall. What has kept me from buying an iPhone is AT&T service and the plan costs.
Personally, I think that the Pre strikes a nice balance between the entertainment capabilities of the iPhone and the business utilitarianism of a blackberry. It will have some kinks as all 1st gen products do. It's nice to see Palm back on the cutting edge. We'll see how things shake down.
there are a ton of people on sprint that have been waiting for this phone and will buy it because there are no better options. a huge majority of this country is locked into some kind of contract that doesn't allow for switching carriers on a whim...sure there is the g1 on t-mobile and the iphone on att, but that doesnt help me if i signed a 2 yr contract with sprint last year or if i don't read tech blogs on a basis
@sweet greggo
"How the hell did Chapel get a highly ranked post in a non Apple article?? "
I know. And I posted in agreement with him.
I think I just threw-up in my mouth a little bit.
Homeboy is absolutely right. The Pre would've been a bigger hit had it launched months earlier. In business and marketing, timing is everything. Does anyone in here really think that Palm's decision to sell the Pre 2 days before WWDC was an accident? Obviously, that was the best they could do from an engineering standpoint, but without that limitation, Palm would have sold the Pre months ago. If Apple announces the new iPhone at WWDC with even half the rumored upgrades, then I see trouble for Palm. I think it'll do well out of the gates like Android, simply because of the novelty factor, but I don't think it offers enough to stall the current gen iPhone's success, let alone the next gen.