Fatal1ty teams with Fusion-io to launch 80GB ioXtreme PCI Express SSD
By Darren Murph 
posted June 6th 2009 11:29PM
posted June 6th 2009 11:29PM
posted June 6th 2009 11:29PM
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that is totally consumer-friendly....
maybe it isnt to the apple owner who forks cash for a new computer every time they upgrade..
I think the first guy was being sarcastic.
i think the second guy is a poor jealous douche.
maybe the second guy already knew the first guy was being sarcastic, and the third and fourth guy think too much.
C-C-COMBO BREAKER (?)
+4 Mana
i think the 2nd guy just has nothing to say so followed the herd and said something anti-apple, and is now hastily trying to backtrack now that his lack of both $$$ and humour has been exposed
My Dell was 4k+. Apple doesn't even produce something comparable.
But hey, gratz to you apple fanboi douches and over paying for an inferior machine. You all seem proud that you got F'd in the A.
Oh, I'm sure that's hogwash, Agent .25i.
Also, wouldn't it have been a lot more economical to build your own machine than to donate over $4000 to Dell?
For that price, I would think two 120GB OCZ Vertex drives in RAID 0 with a cheap PCI RAID card would be just as fast and 3X the capacity...
Fatal1ty is exactly that FATALITY to your pocket.
I've sworn never to buy any product with that brand, after their sound-card fiasco. It's one of the most expensive product series, but their build quality is so horrible, it just stops working after a couple of weeks.
I've returned it twice already and then given up. I've lost faith in "Creative", and I hope IO stays away from it. There's still hope for IO
Awesome, one step closer to building a completely fatalonethankyou-endorsed EXTREME GAMING RIG.
I wonder more how Fatal1ty actually helped in making the product. I know he's an extreme PC gamer, but did he do anything -other than stamp his online callsign- to make this product?
BTW: Take this money and build a RAID0 array. It will be just as close if not faster than this card.
He cashed the check...hard.
lol yeah i love how this one gamer is like put on this high horse meaning you should buy the motherboards and other stupid ass crap that has his name on it ... WHAT A JOKE!
@Aguiluz
Sure, you could build a Raid 0 array, but 15k SAS drives plus the SAS HBA will cost you several hundred each and won't match the 1.4-1.5 Gigabytes per second of speed.
One gamer who could completely shut out any of us at any FPS game in existence. I think the days of celebrity gamers is over (the days that didn't last that long no less) but he did work pretty hard to become noteworthy. If he is still making money on his name despite the major league gaming events drying up in this recession, I say kudos to him.
he told them to put that fancy red heatsink on there, and that's about it. is it just me, or does seeing his name on products make you not want to buy it?
$895? Wow, Foe the price I cab build a desktop they offer only 80 gigs. Hit me up in 2-3 years when prices are considered Wallet Rape.
I began writing you a grammar ticket for this comment and ran out of paper. Just come with me down to the station and we'll sort this all out.
the future of computing is through scalable PCI-E peripherals.
Imagine if you will teh state of computing in 10 years. PCI-E will be up to a new spec and will probably exceed 10GB/s. sounds like an appropriate platform for RAM, and yes, you guessed it, a CPU. The fact that CPUs can be soldered on die instead of modular; PCI-E will be the new die if you will, will IMMENSELY lower fab costs.
But who is to say that is still wouldn't be faster to have the socket directly on the Mobo. In fact, that's what makes sense to me.
10Gb/s pales in comparison to even HyperTransport, which as been in the 10's of GB/s since it came out, aka 8 years ago. HyperTransport 3.1 is already at 51Gb, so PCI-E still can't be considered a CPU interconnect. PCI-E doesn't have this purpose. There are different buses for a good reason. Let's also not forget that the latency on PCI-E is no where near low enough to facillitate CPU interconnects, or CPU-Ram Interconnects. Buses can not be qualified by their BW alone.
For those of us playing the home game...
Gb = Gigabit
GB = Gigabyte (aka "Gb x 8")
So...
10GB/s = 80Gb/s
that'll never happen... intel makes way too much money from changing sockets and chipsets five times a year so that next year you won't even be able to upgrade your processor and you'll be forced to buy a new mobo+cpu if you want to upgrade.
And then theres gibibytes and gigabytes...
On the one hand, it doesn't seem to make sense to set up a data path that is inherently slow or limited, but I believe the buses are limited intentionally so as to not overload the CPU. Clearly they could have placed an inherently wide data path between the video card and CPU or Memory and CPU, but at what cost to the CPU? Would the CPU be so oveloaded that it could not effectively keep functioning on user data?
IMHO, it's not like they cannot make things faster... they're trying to speed things along proportionately so that the PC still works on your tasks, not on managing the system itself.
I'll take twelve.
I hate that these things exist when I cannot likely ever afford such an awesome storage medium. I guess I just hate everyone that's happy.
Is there anything this guy won't whore his name for?
Coming Soon: Fatal1ty Gaming Cookies! Provide extra boost to get that last frag!
reasonably priced hardware?
someone say whore?
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I don't care.
Quick prices here, the Intel 80GB SSD is 325$ and 200$ for the 300GB Velociraptors. So if I get 4 Raptors in RAID 0 will it be faster ? Also add on that the 100$ left can almost get a 1.5TB drive for backups.
Unfortunately no matter how many hard drives you raid you can't match the access time of a SSD. However, for less money you could raid two decent consumer level SSDs and probably get similiar/same speeds.
Yeah but i would like to see how many Gs your pc could pull.
I love how SSD makers have that as a selling point.
@bot
find mw any two hard drives, consumer level or not, that you can raid together and get "sustained read bandwidth of 1,500MB/sec and write bandwidth of 1,400MB/sec".
They don't exist.
You can't even get that with two Intel SSD's.
@$900, these are becoming very interesting to think about putting in servers that have high IOPS based loads, like DB servers......
I don't need huge amounts of storage, but i do need as fast as i can get.
That's WAY TOO .. high of a price ... needs to be cut in half ...
I could go 15k scsi drives and new controller bd and still
be cheaper.
Do you know what kind of RAID system I could setup with $895? Screw that.
RAID0 array? Compete with this? You obviously have never, ever, ever, EVER touched a FusionIO card, and probably not any kind of SSD. This is no RAID card on Earth, with any mechnical drive you pick, with any amount of drives you use, that can rate at the IOPS of a FusionIO drive. It gets very near to RAMDRIVE speeds, and the only way you'd get that rate from a RAID card is to have 80 GB of storage with an 80 GB RAM cache. Please do not display your ignorance by comparing the FusionIO drive to any, any, ANY mechanical drive configuration. You *might* get close with RAID0 of SSD drives, but you'd be hard pressed to configure one with the performance and capicity of this at a lower cost (including the cost of the RAID controller).
And, yes, we have a FusionIO card in our server farm, used for virtualization. Show me a RAID system that can launch a VS in 7 seconds flat, anyone? Anyone?
dijitul - enjoy your lifetime of virginity
dijitul - Regretting that purchase i see.
@dijitul
If you're really working in any kind of a "real" data center (aka, not your basement), than you would know that if you used a NetApp Filer configured with dual 10Gb/s trunks connected to your storage network and single 10Gb/s links to each of your HBAs, you would be able to boot a RHEL 5.3 installation in 3.7 seconds or a Windows Server 2008 install under VMware's ESX server in 4.8 seconds.
These cards while an impressive achievement in terms of speed are not practical for the server world for one simple reason...
Inability to implement redundancy in hardware.
If you were to rely on these cards in a server, you would be using software RAID.
Tyson Edwards wins one internet. :)
IIRC, OCZ's PCI-E card offerings are basically 4 of their Vertex drives in RAID0. All these cards basically do is integrate the RAID controller and the flash memory onto the board.
@Tyson Edwards:
Uh, you are way off target here. Your solution would cost tens of thousands of dollars, and this product is under one thousand. Also, you talk about software redundancy, but we're comparing a product here not even meant for server enviroments in the first place. FusionIO has an entirely different product, which DOES provide redundancy. And, software redundancy or not, the FIO will beat out any other product for speed (unless, of course, you spend the tens of thousands of dollars for YOUR solution..... uhhh.. at home?). Riiiight, buddy. Good luck keeping your IT job, unless it's Tier 1 Helpdesk.
@Tyson Edwards
that netapp still won't provide the IOPS we're talking about here. Even the best SAS 15k drive is going to only eek out 180 IOPS in a complete benchmark environment w/ a raw device (nevermind a formated file system). A single Intel X25-E will give you peaks over 8k IOPS. Let that settle in your head just a bit. Try getting a Netapp that'll do that for under $900 and I'll agree with you.
Can you even boot from this thing? Yawn.
Yes, you can. We use the enterprise FIO products at our company.