Close to 700,000 Palm Pre apps downloaded to date
By Donald Melanson 
posted June 20th 2009 5:21AM
posted June 20th 2009 5:21AM
There may not be a ton of Pre apps available just yet, but it looks like there's enough to accumulate an impressive 666,511 downloads as of June 17th, which likely means that we're close to or past the 700,000 mark by now. As you can see above in graph form courtesy of Medialets, things have been rising steadily as more and more apps became available, and there's no noticeable sign of a drop-off even as apps remained around the 30 mark after the end of the first week. Of course, it's obviously still a little early to draw any firm conclusions, and there's no telling how things could shake out once the long-awaited PreFart and PreBeer apps make their debut.
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Wow, that's fantastic.At this rate, they'll surpass the app store in less than a year.Nice going,Palm,
Looks to me like there is a VERY noticeable sign of a dropoff. And not just right after the launch but at the RIGHT edge of the graph - check the numbers.
I guess when you are a star reality doesn't rear its ugly head to often.
700k downloads in 10 days... about 2M per month... 25M per year.
The AppStore as sold 1 billion app in about 8 months... 1.4B per year.
AppStore = 50x PreStore.
Anyway, I wish Palm has enough success to survive.
@dk - how many apps did the iPhone have 10 days after it was first put on sale?
@ Freaken ljit
Why dont you just say you dont want people to use a Pre or download any of the apps, and just be done with it?
Decoy,
Started out with 500 and is now over 50,000 strong.
Palm had as many app downloads as apple sold iphones yesterday. lmao.
I don't remember how many, but a lot more for sure because the SDK was available long before the AppStore did open.
I was answering to Samunosuke Ode: 700k may look impressive to some, but when you compare to the AppStore figures it is not that impressive at all.
I know that some whish the Pre to become an iPhone killer because they don't like Apple and other because they like Palm... but whatever your reason and whatever your wishes, Palm survival will only depends on how successful the Pre is and how successful the PreStore is.
What? you can't do a comparison of pre apps to iphone apps yet, maybe in 2 years you can... but not now.
Lol, gotta love it when people fall for sarcasm on here. Not only are the numbers miniscule, but they are also declining.
Original iphone launch : june 29 2007
App store launch : july 10 2008
Pre launch : june 6 2009
Pre store launch : june 6 2009
Stop hating... both are great products...
I was answering to Samunosuke Ode: 700k may look impressive to some, but when you compare to the AppStore figures it is not that impressive at all."
IT BEEN OUT FOR TWO FUGGING WEEKS, YOU TWIT!
It like saying an expansion team with a winning season isnt really all that great because another team that's been around longer and has won a championship.
"I know that some whish the Pre to become an iPhone killer because they don't like Apple and other because they like Palm... but whatever your reason and whatever your wishes, Palm survival will only depends on how successful the Pre is and how successful the PreStore is."
I know that some wish the Pre to go away because they don't like anything other than Apple and others because they hate Palm... but whatever your reason and whatever your wishes Palm has people buying and using their product, so be happy with you damn iPhone and stop acting like a pompous prick.
Wow - a personal attack for noting the obvious!?
Not ONLY is the graph dropping off (regardless what this incorrect article states!) the graph is dropping off in the face of MORE apps available!
Sorry, but that SCREAMS out that there aren't Pres out there TO download apps - there should be a dramatic UPSWING in the curve were more Pres downloading the more available apps - yet the curve is falling off.
Whether you like it or not.
BTW - why are you defending a phone? Seriously...
[=I'm= commenting on statistics that were just presented incorrectly; that's MY excuse. The SAME words would issue from my fingers were this an iPhone or Blackberry or Nokia or anything]
@ Freaken ljit
Just stop. We get it.
Palm sucks. No one bought a Pre, it's a stupid platform, usage is dropping off, "OMG" there are no apps for it, Apple rocks, everyone should buy an iPhone, Apple should control the market completely, (insert tired cliched iFan attacks here).
The real question here is why Apple fans are so desperate to attack "a phone", like they attack everything else, rather than why people are defending it.
@Look_Around_You
It's like people are wishing for the Pre to fail! It's like they don't realize that the release of the Pre and Android caused Apple to add Universal Search, MMS, Tethering, and a few other features.
Heck, if the Pre couldn't have existed without the iPhone, like some people say, then I contest that the changes in iPhone 3.0 software wouldn't have been so dramatic without the competition from the Pre and Android.
Like others have said, it's impossible to compare the AppStore to the PreStore (or whatever it's called, we don't have the Pre in Sweden) simply because it has not been available long enough. And the argument that the AppStore had way more apps available at launch is moot because, as someone pointed out, the AppStore wasn't available at the iPhones launch, it was added when the iPhone was already a common device and already had loads of apps available through jailbreaking (most of which were probably ported to the AppStore anyway). I like to think that the reason the AppStore took off so well was directly linked to the iPhone hacking communities success in bringing out their own apps.
Its App Catalog, not Pre Store. And stop the hating. I love my Pre and the applications will come. App Catalog is still in beta!
I am not a pre user but I gotta say excellent job to palm. I hope they sell just as many apps as the iphone in the future and I'm glad to see palm back in the game!
Why exactly are the 2 app stores being compared? There are so many differences surrounding the launch of both stores it's asinine to try and draw any comparisons. If you try, you are stupid.
There are no large developers going to the Pre platform. None left. They've all gone to Apple and the iPhone platform. This isn't a joke. It seems the major developers love the idea of in-app purchases to make themselves bundles of cash. It's not even about the hardware anymore. The developers figure they can just keep charging application users over and over by offering in-app articles and game pack add-ons. Apple is set up to handle all of that seamlessly. The iPhone/iPod user base is just running away from the field since most smartphone platforms are fragmented by multiple OSs that can't run all the software. Apple has 40 million+ devices that can run essentially the same apps. The developers love that fact and don't want to leave it for any other platform.
If the Palm Pre has a current user base of say, generously, 150,000, it's almost nothing compared to a 40,000,000 devices and rapidly growing user base. You see the disparity of possible monetary returns. Two to three more months waiting for the WebOS SDK isn't going to help. Add a couple of more months for app/game development and the Pre gets further behind.
This isn't about Palm Pre hate. It's just about how much developers hate to wait to make quick cash. Greed is good for Apple and not for Palm. The HTC Magic has a better chance of getting developers than the Palm Pre since they expect to sell 1,000,000 units by August and the Android SDK is already available.
@boutch55555: What are those numbers supposed to prove? If you are trying to show how fast the Pre's App Catalog came out after the Pre came out compared the the iPhone and it's App Store, that's a moot point because the Pre came out 2 years after the iPhone.
@ Look_Around_You
Just stop. We get it.
Palm sucks. No one bought a Pre, it's a stupid platform, usage is dropping off, "OMG" there are no apps for it, Apple rocks, everyone should buy an iPhone, Apple should control the market completely, (insert tired cliched iFan attacks here).
The real question here is why Apple fans are so desperate to attack "a phone", like they attack everything else, rather than why people are defending it.
The answer is real simple......(why Apple fans are so desperate to attack "a phone" ?)
I betcha 75% of all iphone users are under the age of 26-27. A large portion of those are still
living at home. Many still have their beds made up daily by Mom. Still learning the ins
and outs of life.......and matters of adult responsibilities have yet to be fully developed.
Priorities are still self-centered, as most have yet to find their own true identities.
Therefore......material things like iphones play a major part in their day-to-day activities.
Think about it for a few seconds......what else they got to do ? They are defending
an object that plays a vital role in their lives.
Eventually, they'll grow in the maturity department and realize the true concept of a
cell phone is to make and and answer phone calls. The one's that succeed in life will
soon find themselves turning "that damn cell phone" off at the first chance they can.
I've owned and used a cell phone daily since 1984. Many days I look back and think
how nice it would be if there were still phone booths scattered all over the place.
haha bob has no life.
As I listen to the arguments, I realize that some are inverting reality.
The iphone was available, and in the hands of many users before the release of the AppStore, that is true. However, if you have a phone in the hands of 100 people, open a store with 1,000 apps, let's say only 60 of them download, because 40 of them have a hard time parting with their jailbroken phone apps. 60 people each download, 10 apps that they actually use, but 90 apps just to try them out.
Now, compare that number to a phone being in the hands of 1 person, with only 18 apps. Granted, more than one person bought the phone that day, but it's no where near the penetration that the iphone had by time the appstore was released. To achieve 700k downloads with such a small pool of apps (thus less interest, for it's less probable that you'll like all 18 apps, than it is that you'll find more than 18 apps out of a pool of 1,000). Is remarkable.
Funny thing is I don't even like the Pre. I'm a crackberry addict, and I'd sooner tell someone to buy a BB, or iPhone before a Pre.
Futhermore, the math of 700K, over the course of a year, is incorrect. One must also consider the growth factors. It wouldn't be 365 divided by 10 times 700k. Since that assumes 700k is a constant, when it's not. The growth would be exponential. However, even then I think the AppStore would trump it, as such the writer's point still stands ... but that's a result of the phone already having significant penetration prior to the store opening.
With the Pre, we're talking about an almost forgotten company making that much of a splash, while in the era of the iphone. The iphone had no competition. People didn't have a choice of "should I get the Pre, iPhone, BlackBerry, or G1?"
If someone could do the actual math, I'd appreciate it. My brain's getting slow in my old age. Thank you in advance.
PreFart will be the 1 billionth download.
the name and the icon. priceless.
OMFG!! best superhero ever.... I laughed for 10 minutes thinking of scenarios where someone would call on him...
oh and... yay Pre......
they won't pass the app store in a year. It'll drop off, especially when they are no longer in beta and everything costs money. but it shows that the market is there and developers should go work on webOS. impressive
So you are saying that every app will coast money, no one will pay for those, and there will be no freeware ones?
Do you realize how silly that sounds?
I ask that fully knowing that you are really just iTrolling here, so I dont expect an answer.
on top of it ... if 95% of all apps you need are part of the phone day1, there is not much reason to download new apps ... oh yeah iPhone has compass app, that is so frickin useless. Maybe real GPS instead would be nice, let me search 2 billion app storre... oh no you cannot download that.
@chazz
That graph won't show any drop off in a year. There will be more phones and more apps so the numbers will only go up. Do you honestly think the 30 apps in the Catalog now will be the only ones there in a year?
Calling me an iTroll when I'm saying that I hope the Pre succeeds (I have one) and devs start working on webOS?
Do you realize how silly that sounds?
@greggo. you may be right. I think there will be a drop off soon, just because it doesn't look like a maintainable pace to me. But The App Catalog is not going to catch Apple's App Store. You underestimate the power of 14-yr-old boys in this country buying fart apps and lightsabers.
Chazz is right. The most powerful purchasing force in this country is under the age of 17 and therefore the with the multitude of iFart like apps, Palm will never really catch up. This means Apple will make more money, and always hold that over Palm's head. It also means that when they tout the number of apps sold the figures mean less than nothing to tech-geeks like myself, because all it shows is that developers have caught on to the notion that it's sometimes easier to create and market a vapid product than a truly useful one. For evidence compare ringtone and wallpaper sales for any provider to app sales.
All of that and without including any fart apps in the catalog!
Impressive.
WOW!!! they have sold 150,000 phones and ..and out of a paultry 30 apps can't get even get a decent rate of app loads... less than 5 apps per phone... LOL
WOW!! LOL! you missed the part where that means each phone has 20% of the apps available! WOW!! people are using the paltry app catalog! LOL
Developers can't because they wont even get a SDK until late august-early september.
This things been in the bin for a year nand they have left the developers spinning in the wind.
You kinda have to have the OS written before you can write the SDK, not the other way around.
well the iphone was live for a year before their app store was even ready, and apple loved web apps in the beginning...
http://www.precentral.net/get-thousands-web-apps-your-pre-right-now
I'll say it thanks, to all the early iphone devs, because now there are many more apps to choose from with the pre.
No, I didn't miss the point... if you bought an Xbox and it only had 2 games I bet you would have an 95% purchase rate ... and these are all free apps ...wait till the paid apps roll in ...2% maybe.
i agree. of course its going to drop off. ive DLed a bunch of apps that I definitely wouldnt pay much if anything for. Its still a good number for a 2 week history and I hope it spurs some developers, who by the way, will be getting the SDK real soon, not end of summer (some of them)
will the 666,666th guy get something form the devil?
Yes, it's called an iPhone and it will bring destruction upon those who dare behold it.
Whats a pre?
When a man and a woman love each other very much, they decide to touch eath other in a very special way. Nine months later, the stork brings them a Pre and they couldn't be happier.
I didn't want to know how is Pre formed.
Why does a statistic state how many apps have been downloaded instead of how many Pres have actually been sold? And I also find it really hard to believe that with only 30 available apps Palm has racked up such a number of unique downloads. And fyi fake statistics are the scum of the earth.
Actually, only 41.59% of people agree with you on that. And my figure is backed up by 81.63% of the population.
The statistic was gathered outside Palm's control - it measures downloads from a site.
At 4+ downloads per device average (I'd actually think somewhat more than that) this gives a rough idea of devices as well.
Well 20 days after iPhone 1 launched it had sold 0 apps...
Good on Palm for proving that there is a market for this type of thing outside the iPhone.
Now the onus is on the devs to keep their app prices low so the people actually feel these are worth it (as opposed to the wholesale gauging that is happening on the RIM App World)
>> "Well 20 days after iPhone 1 launched it had sold 0 apps..."
Correct... but now substitute iPhone 1 with iPhone 3G... and you'll find out that over 10,000,000 Apple apps were downloaded in the first week. And over a billion apps in less than a year. When was the last time a billion of *anything* was downloaded in less than a year?
There was no app store in 2007 when the first iPhone came out... so why do people even bring that up? Nobody even thought about mobile apps until Apple did it.
I'm a Blackberry user and I STILL can't get anything resembling the free, fun apps that Apple has... and Blackberries have been around for years!