Flash 10 for smartphone beta coming this October
By Ross Miller 
posted Jun 22nd 2009 6:44PM
posted Jun 22nd 2009 6:44PM
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I need Flash 10 for my n810 and/or Ipod touch!!!!!!!!!!!! come on already
another lip service about flash player.
LOL how many times we heard about fp for ipo 3g and now ipo 3gs the fastest most powerfull blah blah blah still does not have fp !! ROTFL These people should be jailed for so many broken promises
Apple wont pay for flash they want it for free and adobe will never give it to apple for free if they do every other company will complain
so yeah dont hold your breath for flash support, i'd like flash support for my ipod touch browser though, would be nice
could be 10 bucks app for suckers in appstore
sorry i do not see your point
Apple and RIM are part of the Omissions. Ipod touch and iphone arent getting flash along with everyone else
apparently you can still buy liver in this country without flash player :-/
@ DR House
your such a troll
Is there flash with the iPhone 3G S?
If not I HOPE this brings it officially!
It's ridiculous that something as vital as Flash is not yet on the iPhone etc.
Why are you complaining, Steve Jobs has decided that you do not need or want flash on your Apple devices, so you should be content with what your lord Steve has given you. Don't forget to prostrate before your Apple idol at least 3x daily.
is this why they havent got 64-bit working yet? :(
Oh noes!!! The iPhone is done for now. Every, and I mean EVERY smartphone worth it's salt will be running Flash except that keyboardless, non-selling handset from, you guessed it, Cupertino's very own bitten fruit company. They failed at cut, copy, paste, they failed at tethering, they failed mainly by breaking the cardinal and most important rule of not implementing full application background processing. That was basically the dealbreaker that prevented huge iPhone weekend sales. Absolutely nobody needs or wants a smartphone that DOESN'T run full background processing. Productivity is hopelessly cut by every application you can't run at the same time.
Lack of Flash will cause every single iPhone user to dump their Safari-using, browsing-unfriendly device because what's the point of browsing without having Flash enabled. So, you iPhone losers, gloat while you can because Flash is the new background processing that Apple will miss out on. It's true that the iPhone has the highest browser traffic of all smartphones combined and doesn't have Flash, but that's all gonna change. All of you who just bought new iPhones, dump them NOW. Apple has cheated you grieviously by denying you a tremendous 2% of the total internet experience.
Ask anyone on the street how important Flash is to them and they will tell you...."Look buddy, I've already got one on my camera and that's enough for me. Now go away."
@iphonerulez: meltdown much? lol - pathetic.
@iphonerulez
Welcome to the Dark Side. Muahhahaha
"Why are you complaining, Steve Jobs has decided that you do not need or want flash on your Apple devices, so you should be content with what your lord Steve has given you. Don't forget to prostrate before your Apple idol at least 3x daily."
This, of course, is unbelievable bullshit that demonstrates a complete inability to grasp facts. The reason why Flash is not available on the iPhone is because it absolutely sucks on the Mac OS platform because Adobe are incompetent. On a Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz processor I see the Flash Player taking up about 120% processor time (i.e. 1.2 processor cores) just to play a crappy YouTube video. In contrast, QuickTime uses less to show a full 1080p movie and Microsoft's Silverlight 2 only needs about 80% processor time. If you were to bring this software anywhere near the iPhone then your battery would disappear almost instantly and customers would be complaining.
As and when Adobe can deliver an efficient Flash Player for the Mac platform then I am 100% certain that it will be provided on the iPhone. Frankly, I rather hope the World Wide Web can standardise on HTML 5 and then we won't need Flash - wouldn't that be wonderful?
Why is it Adobes fault? Why should they work harder to write a program for just 10% of the home computing market? Furthermore, is it at all possible that they problem may be with OS X?
@Kelmon
"The reason why Flash is not available on the iPhone is because it absolutely sucks on the Mac OS platform because Adobe are incompetent."
How is Adobe incompetent when Flash runs reasonably well on Symbian platform with 2 or more times slower hardware?
@gadgeteer
I am sorry - did you miss the part of my post where I noted that not only does QuickTime play full HD movies using less processor time than Flash does for a crappy YouTube video, but Silverlight wipes the floor with it? And you ask why this is Adobe's fault? Clue: Adobe writes the Flash Player software so they are responsible for its performance.
Its another benchmark for Mobile Browsing!
"Phone X lasted 4 hours running flash, and phone Y lasted 3 hours".
I can hear my phone's battery crying.
I LIKE TURTLES!
Would be nice if it could be used for iPhone/iPod Touch.
ive noticed that Apple fans are all optimistic....
why?
Steve says no flash,
ohh, well, we dont really need flash, it'll just slow us down.
riiiight.
Nah, we don't need Flash and we don't want Flash. I think HTML5 will fill in the blanks as far as streaming media is concerned. I just can't see a bunch of random pop-ups on an iPhone. That crap needs to die.
Awww, Paul's mighty, infallible god phone has failed him so he has to dig to find ways to explain away this major omission. It's hard work being part of the volunteer iFanboy militia.
Honestly, I don't want Flash on my iPhone. But then, I don't want it in my browser either...
@ Kamil
Actually, Jobs made the comment that mobile flash was too shitty and regular flash was too bloated. He said that he wanted Adobe to make something that was light weight and performed better then the mobile version. So, this looks like Jobs got what he was after. I'm usually not to big into speculation, due to I hate ever being wrong, but I can guarantee you that the smartphone flash will be on the iPhone in October. Well, whenever its officially released at least.
"Paul a. Chapel @ Jun 22nd 2009 7:28PM
Nah, we don't need Flash and we don't want Flash. I think HTML5 will fill in the blanks as far as streaming media is concerned. I just can't see a bunch of random pop-ups on an iPhone. That crap needs to die."
OH GIVE ME A BREAK! Your Apple fan-boyism is so obvious it's making you look like a clown. I know you're well known here as the Apple fanboy but I don't normally buy into that but this statement just makes me laugh and cringe at the same time.
Are you honestly telling me that if the iPhone 3G S were announced with "Flash 10" support you wouldn't be all over these comment sections bragging and shouting about the fact that your precious iPhone just got better and "beat" all other phones? Really, look deep inside yourself and try to come to an honest answer. Can you do it?
Look man, I'm a big Apple fan (typing this on my beautiful 17" MacBook Pro) but your completely blind fan-boyism is just getting ridiculous. If you want to be taken seriously (and maybe you don't), try and be honest with yourself and everyone else. Jesus christ.
@JayCee
Paul has a point, if the iPhone had flash I would leave it off so I could save my battery and so pages could load at a 1/2 way decent pace. I mean flash would be great but What would I use it for? you cant play internet games from a touch screen phone anyways, there are apps to stream music, my iPhone has a video player built into it along with apps for streaming video, i dont see why the iPhone needs flash till science can create a battery that can support the needs of a device streaming flash online.
@CraigJ --- keep telling yourself that while the rest of us browse Newgrounds, Hulu, CollegeHumour, Dailymotion, Kongregate, Current, Armorgames, etc, etc, etc...
@JayCee, who said: "Are you honestly telling me that if the iPhone 3G S were announced with "Flash 10" support you wouldn't be all over these comment sections bragging and shouting about the fact that your precious iPhone just got better and "beat" all other phones?"
Yeah, I have to admit, I WOULD brag about it, but just to annoy the heck out of the Apple Haters. It might surprise you to hear, but I also didn't want Voice Dial and Video on the iPhone. I find both of those features kind of useless. I've used the video on my flip phone exactly once, to record an OSHA violation at work, but other than that, I have never understood the need for low resolution cell video.
I guess it comes in handy when the cops are beating people or choking paramedics. My current flip phone has everything I want or need, but I'm holding out to see what's offered with the iPod touch in September. I would rather keep my little flip phone for calls. I would probably drop an iPhone and break it in a week.
I also would like to remind everyone that I DON'T own an iPhone and that I have two Macs and 3 old PCs. I know it won't matter to most of you, especially the Apple Haters. The Apple Haters can't dispute the factual information I present in my arguments, so they either resort to calling me a Fanboy or a Troll, hoping that people don't listen to my message. That won't stop me.
"Newgrounds, Hulu, CollegeHumour, Dailymotion, Kongregate, Current, Armorgames, etc, etc, etc..."
My point exactly.
@murmerer
You don't want flash on iPhone to save battery life. Come on, you just said it. iPhone battery and your balls suck alike. Flash is one feature iPhone Users have always dreamed about. iPhone didn't even care to put a lite version. Even a 110$ Nokia has Flash Lite. iPhone is serious piece of shit.
So I'll be enjoying flash on my Zune HD in the fall? =D Wooh!
Flash sucks and I hate developing for it.
Woot! Flash coming to my G1!
Mine too! Silly of RIM and Apple to not take part in Flash 10.
i have flash player on my andriod right now g1 with hero build hero has flash player on it im a bit surprised engadet did not report that
That's right, Flash, come to my ARMs.
Ha. See what I did there.
lol nice =D
I see I see
Hell, it's about time.
YES!! Flash for Android!!!!
Hope so.....
Apple just got OWNED.
I love Safari!
Yes, Apple PWNED!
Nokia, Palm, Google, and Microsoft . End of the list
It's not officially pwnage until they actually release it. Until then, none of them have it.
@kevinm: Beyond Flash Lite, WinMo already has Flash 7, akshully.
this is so awesome!!
I was on WinMo 6.5 today and it had flash lite. It was crappy, it sucked.
And this is going to be awesome
I'm still waiting for decent Flash performance on a Mac that doesn't cause my laptop's fans to spin like crazy.
DING - there's the problem with Flash for the iPhone right there. Flash Player for the Mac platform is absolute garbage.
hell a mac or pc, maybe when they start supporting graphics cards i will be able to watch HD flash videos on my decent video card without any hiccups considering i can play crysis at a mediocre FPS.
hulu probably still wont work for my phone though. :(
Until then it looks like I'll still be using Skyfire for my flash needs.
Skyfire has done an awesome job at it, I Watch full episodes from SouthParkStudios all the time hassle free :D
Does this mean the iPhone web browser will now be useful?...or will Apple find a way to block it?
Apple and RIM was ommited. As far as the news go, we arent getting flash.
It means it's not coming to the iphone at all. Check the supported software companies again.
apple isn't getting flash adobe isn't working on that platform yet.
Dude.... the Iphone is getting this yet. It's one of the "glaring ommissions" referenced in the article.
So my iPhone still sucks then, great.
Yep
Yeah is getting it...eventually. New iPhone model next year iPhone3GS-Flash...BAHAHHA cant wait for the PRe install.
@shaunisadirty,
wow, so actually u got an iPhone already.
oh the irony...
@shaunisadirty,
and another thing, please, stop trolling here. clicked on your profile. just wow.
.
Take that iPhone! Bawhahahahaha!
Hopefully Google's inclusion in that list implies Android support. In my experience that's not always a direct conclusion you can draw.
They already announced that Google is part of that group and specifically that it'd be bringing flash to Android a while back. Safe assumption at this point I think.
sure android is getting flash. the leak hero rom had flash 9 installed and the first plug-in for mobile browsers was displayed using the g1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc
Pretty sure Apple don't want it because once you put flash on a device like this, you'll immediately take the focus off the App Store. Think about how many awesome FREE flash games there are? They would probably only be interested if they could lock it down somehow... That said, I still want a new iPhone. It is a fantastic device, all things considered.
That is true, the internet is full of actually good free games, not fart apps.
Well then there's stuff like Hulu, Last F.M, Groove Shark, and many other streaming flash services that seriously cut into iTunes. Apple has a serious problem allowing anything onto their devices that competes with their services.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Flash on the Pre sounds nice...
Anyone who is wondering regarding being able to use Flash on Iphone, ipod touch. Please note APPLE is one of the ommisions of that. We arent getting FLASH along with Google, etc
Blackberry users, unfortunately u were also part of omission
My condolences.
(damn.. i gotta switch to Google Android)
Thank you, Captain Obvious!
@iroq321
I wrote that so iphone users who thought flash was coming didnt get wrong information.
No need to be an jerk, but i guess u cant help that
I wasn't trying to be a jerk, it was meant as a joke. Maybe you should get a sense of humor, but I guess you can't help that.
You didn't state anything that the article hadn't already...hence, Captain Obvious
At least BB users can get Flash content thru Skyfire..
It's funny that the people who argue, they don't want flash, are the ones that don't surf the internet.
how could anyone not want flash? really, it's used so much everywhere you'd think it'd be one of the first thing a mobile browser would want.
That makes a lot of sense. The people on the internet complaining about flash are the ones that DON'T use the internet. Just think about what you said for a moment. Wait, that had to be sarcasm.
I don't like flash. I can't give you a single reason, I just really prefer sites without it. I've been running flash block in FF, and I don't even miss it. When I end up at a site and the navigation is missing from the page because it was done in flash, I go elsewhere.
@craigj you sir are banned from the interwebz flash is good for the tubez so it must be good for you. please don;t come back until you have learned your lesson.
Apple needs to get their asses moving on the Flash + Mobile Safari integration already!
Adobe would port it in about 8 seconds if Jobs would let them. He has decided for you that you don't need flash, so you don't get it. That's what it means to be part of a closed ecosystem.
at the risk of inflaming the fanboys: i wish jobs had had had a change of heart along with his change of liver.
@McPOW
And that is one of many reasons why I'll be Microsoft's sidekick forever and forever.
@Zippy
You're my hero.
Odd, I thought Adobe and Apple were in the works for a custom version of FLASH for the iPhone OS that was in-between Flash Lite and Full Flash... So they saying that the iPhone OS isn't getting FLASH 10 would still make sense.
Right, so I think the point here is that they'll probably be getting it fairly far later than everyone else and it won't quite be the full version everyone else is getting.
HTML 5 will be the death of Flash.
DVD Audio will be the death of CDs
Even so... it will probably take several years until the Flash plugin goes out of common use.
What is so hard about making a flash plug in? come on already apple!
Go Pre!
...Meh. Flash needs to be rebuilt. It's so processor intensive that any webpage with Flash that I run on this laptop nowadays slows it down. The only comparable form of slowdown I see happens when I run a freaking game. Flash needs to cut back on the power it needs.
I hope if Flash comes to the iPhone, there will be a way I can disable it. 75% of the places I visit, the only parts of the page that are flash are ads.
There are maybe a handful of times Flash would have been useful in the past two years I've used and iPhone. I feel it's one of things people bitch about but will rarely use like copy/paste, MMS, and tethering.