We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new
Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new
Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless'
Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that
prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
posted Jun 25th 2009 10:31PM
but i thought exchange is on the MyTouch 3g?
Seriously, this entire UI is a knock off of the iPhone - the scrolling wheel for date /time settings, the photo album listing, the list goes on.
The saying is if you can't beat them (apple), might as well join them!
Im assuming what you said have nothing to do with my comment..
and..
I'm also assuming that your fanbou ways have everything to do with your comment..
fanboy^
Yes, because that UI _totally_ screams Apple. Get real, fanboy.
Looking...looking...looking.
What on there screams "OS X" ?????
Some people are pure idiots.
But to answer your question...everything is saying it does have Exchange. The blogs, news, and T-Mobile hype site. This is an odd one indeed.
I think he means it won't have *htc's* exchange, it'll probably have something dev by either tmo or google, wishfully google cause then the rest of us could maybe get it
The UI shown in the photo looks nothing like iPhone - what it looks like is a convoluted mess. Do you really need to take a full quarter of the screen to tell me it's sunny and 16 degrees out? Reminds me of the huge (and silly) analog clock on Android - and Vista.
@Quix
Those are widgets...you can move and resize them as you see fit...if you watched the release video you'd know that. The thing that cracks me up most is that, MOSTLY, it's the uninformed who are the loudest with criticism. I assume you like NOT having a choice how your phone looks?
Well, fanboy, I totally - absolutely - one hundred thousand percent - AGREE with you.
BUT reason I don't like iPhone is obviously evidenced from your action:
That damned thing evidently makes a fanboy such as yourself post STUPID comments, probably even while you are dreaming too.
I'm just not interested in any gadget news today. Anyone else?
ps Cmon engadget, still waiting on the MJ article.
most of the articles today were good with the exception of the silent mouse.
p.s. shut up about mj no one cares.
I care.
In other news, prepubescent boys everywhere are sighing in relief tonight.
with a name like swineflu and jokes less than 24 hours after the event - I would suggest you are prepubescent.
I've been trying the Hero builds from xda on my G1. It's a phenomenally awesome UI, and could be huge for android's progress. However, the G1 just can't quite cut it. I suspect the Mytouch 3G will have similar slowdowns even with improved RAM. I suspect that may have more to do with it for now.
Doesn't really matter what HTC does as long as you root your phone, its more about the hardware now.
I absolutely agree, it has less to do with the maker, and more to do with the phone specs, and whether it can handle the gui. Not an iphone fan AT ALL, but look at what the speed bump did for their PSX emulator.
the G1 has the same CPU...Im sure an optimized version will come out and run just fine on the G1 as long as a million apps aren't loaded in the background.
Out of curiosity Wii60, have you been turning off the processor underclock while you test the Hero builds?
I kinda expected this. This is where the beauty of a opensource vs closed source system comes into play. I give the xda hackers 1wk tops, to have this ported over to G1 & Co. post official release. It doesn't even have to be released, just someone with a device to do a rom dump lol. The google ion rom was skewered and cooked for G1 in like 48hrs post the developers conference. I expect nothing less in this case. No worries.
Thank you for calming my fears, lol.
Rogers Dream and Magic remain unrooted.
I just wish that they would at least let the mytouch launch in the US before they totally antiquate the tech. Now I'm going to have to import in the Hero.
I have this on my G1 already, with a little tweaking it runs smoothly. Can't wait until the official rom is ported over.
I'm on the same boat. I have best feature of the Hero rom on my G1 but I'm sure it'll get way better when the official rom is released.
As long as it replaces Touchflo 3D on their winmo devices I'm happy.
Now if only we could get a trackball-less, chin-less, Sense UI enabled, Snapdragon or Tegra Android device on ATT's 3G bands, I'd be over the moon.
I've got $800 just waiting for it.
Oh great, now i'll have to flash an unofficial ROM on it. Back to WinMo days.. I can't get away from it, switched to Android, yet I am still seeing how I will be swapping ROMs.
everyone moans that WinMo required loading unofficial roms to get the best of it - but I guess this would be the case for most phones if hacking it up was possible - this includes the iphone as well.
The hacking process gives you things that you may not have had and there is the element of risk (bricking your phone).
If you want the best performance and newest features out of any piece of hardware you have to tinker with it. If you don't mind "good enough," leave your G1 in the hands of Google, HTC and T-Mobile and you'll get select new features when they feel like it.
Just wait until you're flashing custom firmware to your router and your camera. You'd be surprised what some point-and-shoots can do once you tinker with them.
the more and more i see this Hero....the more i am getting tempted to buy it :D
They need to just build their own OS...
who HTC? what are you tarded?
they will just skin the os...although if they hack into android enough, it is free, it would become their os?
Another example at how tech and progress gets stifled.
Thank god, looks like Vista, typical of HTC.
I don't think this is a silly thing at all. Google is keeping things organized for end users, and the three-tier system is as clear a way to do that as I can think of. I appreciate the fact that they're sticking by the rules they've set up -- it'll keep the market less confusing.
What's the difference between Michael Jackson and the HTC hero? One has a weird plastic chin and the other .... oh hang on.....
Have you no decency? =/
A Hero doesn't touch small boys.
An hero, however, does.
I found it funny, so thank you for that.
True about the little boy touching.
I don't dislike the guy but lets be honest, he is coocoo
too soon...
HA, thats what they think.
what bout the ion. will that get it?
one acronym will fix this, XDA
Good on HTC for trying not to make their new UI locked only to new hardware. Boo for Google having such stringent guidelines for their "with Google" branding.
Ok can someone tell me if this is right. With HTC Sense in place, the phone can not receive official android updates until HTC gets their hands on it, tweaks it, and releases it themselves? But even phones with HTC Sense still have access to the android marketplace?
That is my understanding as well, though I haven't seen an official HTC comment on it yet.
good thing i don't need exchange
Three interfaces that are better anyways:
http://images.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/images/hero-home-screen-20090608.jpg
http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/html-small.jpg
http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/clutter-small.jpg
wait..you accidentally included the Iphone's interface...clearly NOT an attractive interface unless you are seventy and NEED the giant colour filled buttons, not to mention the Iphone has the most annoying interface, flipping through pages is not my idea of interesting or designed with ingenuity.
How are those home screens better when they're just simple black screens with a bunch of icons lined up in a grid?
You know...you can do something like that on the G1...
Better how, because they're prettier versions of what Palm was doing almost a decade ago?
I didn't say they were more innovative or more exciting, just that they were better.
Making something needlessly more complicated does not improve it, but it may make it harder to use.
@ ethana2: HTC TouchFlo is probably the best UI I've ever used (though webOS with it's live cards is pretty damned sweet too). To see HTC bringing the next gen of TouchFlo to Android is nothing but goodness.
Even that 'Clutter' interface is inferior, because each of the large icons are merely representations of applications. Both TouchFlo and webOS have 'live' panels so new and pertinent information is available in the main UI without having to launch the app.
Certainly not, as you suggest "harder to use".
PS: expect the iPhone 4.0 interface to break away from the sea of static icons style, though that would mean needing real multitasking available to 3rd party developers.
Pwnd
When the fuck is Microsoft gonna announce the other features on the Zune HD. I want mobile gaming on the Zune HD. Not half-assed browser-based quality games like on the iTouch. Some mobile xbox games or live arcade games would be superb, especially with online multiplayer and some sort of modular game pad to attach to the thing or something. Ask the pressing questions Engadget. I wanna see what else the thing can do to make it worth a purchase other than HD Radio.
HD radio makes the Zune worth purchasing? Really??? Ever hear of Pandora, Slacker, Last.fm, the list goes on? HD radio, please. Why not throw an 8-track player on the Zune too?
Because nobody has the right to want something you find silly or antiquated right? How very dare they!
Does HD radio require a wifi connection?
What the hell does this article have to do with the Zune?
i reported you.
have a good day sir :)
cough *douche*
its alright..but i've seen better interfaces (such as Web OS)
Hmmm... WebOS is just about the only other phone interface I think is on the same level of HTCs work with Manila and now Sense UI. They manage to make a fairly deep and wide level of information easily available, and for the 'sea of icons' lovers, there's still a panel for that.
I think although sense makes things customisable and information readily available I think it makes thinks look more cluttered. TouchFlo3D was more organised. Just bring the widgets to Manila (and a web OS style app switcher) and keep sense for Android.
My G1 is running Hero just fine as a daily driver. If you can't load a Hero ROM to your G1 and not get it to run smoothly, then you need to step away from modding your phone.
Well, I'm back on a custom cupcake build. The problems I had were with apps2sd, which even after I got it working, slowed things down too much.
It's more of an internal hardware issue in my book.
If Exchange clients are prevented on the Google-branded phones, someone should tell the authors of Touchdown. I've been using it for several months now and it works fine.
Don't worry XDA will fix this ASAP and EVERYONE will have it running on their Google Android devices and so forth..
Is it just me, or does anyone else prefer the Vanilla Google Android UI? Sense UI doesn't look to be to to snuff.
Thank you.
Considering that the XDA dudes have been running the Rosie (codename for Sense while it was being dev'd) UI on their G1's for weeks now, this full release making it over to the rooted G1s is guarentee'd
Oh yes it will. Have faith in the folks on www.xda-developers.com If its on an HTC device it WILL get ported. :D
the XDA notoriety cant be good. They have been going for years now but as the numbers increase (majority of HTC owners have visited) the higher the eyebrows will be raised.
I got the Tmobile G1 USA google phone and im running the full hero UI & Software on my phone already thanks to Haykuro
xda ftw
"some hacker with enough know how"
Already happened. I have ran Hero and went back to standard Android already. Check out the xda-developers forums. They have Hero, Ion and all sorts of different versions of android ported and instruction on how to use them all. All you need is to root your android phone and bam, load whatever UI you want.
HAHAHAH this doesnt apply to me cause i rooted. haha that sucks for all the non rooted mt3g's and g1's
Not to be a jerk but I'm running the sense UI on my G1 already. Its fantastic but honestly takes a lot of "dangerous" practices. Not recommended for noobs or the weak of heart.