iPhone 3GS exploit confirmed, jailbreak and unlock coming 'soon'
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Jun 26th 2009 1:47AM
posted Jun 26th 2009 1:47AM
And so it continues. Geohot has returned with some help from hacking buddies chronic, posixninja, and pod2g with news that the same "24kpwn" exploit used to cracked open the iPod touch 2G will work on the iPhone 3GS. That means a jailbreak and unlock can be launched just as soon as the existing tools are updated for the iPhone 3GS (which won't be long). As George Hotz laments, On a personal note, I'm sad. Apple, it took me a week to break through your new defenses. And to let us reuse an exploit like that; 24kpwn was so 5 months ago. Although I imagine it must have been painful watching the devices roll by on the assembly line, knowing they all had a hole in them and you couldn't fix it.Oh George.
[Via Dev-Team Blog]
Engadget, did you even read the article before posting that last comment?
From the dev team post:
"Important: Apple has not given up on the cat&mouse game, and in fact there are challenging aspects of the 3GS jailbreak that aren’t in the other devices. It’ll take some time to work these into our tools, but the fundamental weaknesses are there: The bootrom is exploitable via 24Kpwn, and the baseband is exploitable via ultrasn0w. (And just like with the 3G, ultrasn0w for 3GS requires that you not update your baseband when Apple comes out with new firmware.)"
What, you think Engadget reads EVERY source it uses for news articles? Puuhhhleeeeeeeeeeeeease......... that'd be like, journalistic credibility.
Oh wait, they aren't a news site, they're a "blog". That posts news. I don't know what to believe anymore. Either way, someone should have seen that part of the post and not posted the complete opposite here. Oh well.
Hurray for jailbreaking the new iPhone.
that was appended to their original post as I was writing. I've updated. -- Thomas
Why does everyone think Apple is intentionally trying to cripple their own phone? What about Verizon disabling GPS and Bluetooth file transfers (until the recent lawsuit that is), and physically crippling otherwise good phones (HTC Touch Pro anyone?) by removing half the RAM?
@ThreeDee912: it's my estimation that Apple is being very careful to make Jailbreaks more-and-more difficult without actually making them impossible. The Jailbreak community is good for Apple, because it allows them to keep millions of "legitimate" users in a separate garden. They get all the benefits of having a hackable phone, plus the plausible deniability that maintains their carrier contracts and allows them to refuse warranty service if you eff up your own phone.
The kind of people who want to hack their phone are resourceful enough to find out how to do it. The rest of the iPhone userbase stays on a fairly safe, secure, Apple-controlled system. Everyone is happy.
you guys are idiots. If YOU bothered to read you would see that the the 24kpwn exploit was not found until early 2009. However, the bootrom was already set in the 3GS in August 2008 and it probably would have taken too much time or effort to go back and redo something that was set 6 months earlier.
Therefore, Engadget is correct when they say Apple had to watch the 3GS roll off the assembly line knowing the exploit was there. It was just too late to fix it....
morons...
Hurray !!!
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was fast, im so happy :)
So how about we get some tutorials rolling out showing ultrasnow unlocking these babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've seen you drop plugs for your blog in like 5 different articles, and yet I still have zero desire to visit it.
Yay! Oh, Cydia, how I missed thee... and Slingplayer on 3G....
Yep that would be the reason to jailbreak!
sling on 3g huh.... i gotta unlock just to try that. its the only reason i still have a blackjack. does the one thing i want it to sometimes that the iphone doesnt. yes, two phones, what can i say.
It's called an iPod Touch not iTouch! When will you people ever learn!!?
Does it even matter? If other people understand what you're talking about, isn't that enough?
Yer rgt. It dsnt mater as lng as u can undurstnd.
Why are these clowns who write these articles still giving the impression that jailbreaking is somehow the equivalent of 'sticking it to the man' or some sort of evidence of clever hackers pulling one over Apple?
Jailbreaking still means you have to hand over your cash to Apple and buy an iPhone in the first place for the hardware (unless you've mugged one of your schoolmates for one) and the only ones being shafted are the real 'developers' who have their games cracked while 'chronic' and his buddies get celebrated by some clueless bloggers.
Venceremos comrades, long may your perpetual struggle keep you from causing greater damage (or god beware, any real constructive activity) elsewhere.
hallelujah Beluga
it's considered sticking it to the man because companies like ATT get exclusive contracts from Apple to sell the iPhone, and with jailbreaking and tools like Ultrasn0w we can shed the shackles and bring the phone to other networks like we should be able to do in the first place!
Without Ultras0w my iPhone would remain locked to Softbank Japan because they refuse to unlock any phone no matter the circumstance. Now I can bring my iPhone to Australia.
Yeah, "God beware" any of us should be permitted to use the phones that we paid for with software that isn't so crippled it makes us feel physically claustrophobic. Can't have us accomplishing "real constructive activity", now, can we? I know this will come as a shock, but there are plenty of people — perhaps even the majority, although that's blind hope speaking — who jailbreak their devices for any of the zillion reasons OTHER than pirating App Store apps, and still buy those apps legitimately like everyone else. Some of us aren't trying to be Zorro when we jailbreak; we just want usable smartphones or PMPs with the added benefits of an iPhone or iPod touch. And let's face it: without any competition until the recent Palm "Dashboard-on-a-Phone" Pre, the jailbreak scene was the only thing keeping Apple even slightly honest. It's a safe bet we wouldn't have seen a native SDK for a lot longer, if ever, if people hadn't gotten so fed up with "web apps" that they started developing native ones without help. Vencê-los, comrade; long may your own perpetual struggle to understand personal choice keep you from undermining that of others.
I don't think anyone is trying to 'stick it to the man' and if they were the man would be ATT not apple. The reason geo mentions apple in the post is because it's apple's job to prevent the phone from being used on a network other than ATT in the US because they have a contract to be an exclusive carrier. Also, if someone doesn't have an iphone or want to jailbreak/unlock it then why are they trolling blog posts about it trying to start debates about something completely irrelevent to them.
Dude, DOUBLE your medication dose....like now
Alright, now I get to make my 3GS useful again! The 4 days I've gone without Intelliscreen and some other tweaks made me realize how poorly designed the iPhone is.
A completely useless lock screen that requires me to unlock and load up an application just to see if that email I got was spam or not?
A tiny little quarter of a second vibrate with no reminder that I got an email or have a calendar reminder with nothing on the again useless lock screen?
It makes me wonder if any of the designers ever used a smartphone on a regular basis before. At least some there are some people who know how to put functionality where it belongs.
Please remove the quickpwn.com link from the news! They have nothing to do with this and are making money out of dev-team!
Yep, theres a bit of a dispute at the moment. So I second Marcin, remove the link
Seriously engadget, quickpwn are a bunch of losers making ad revenue by drawing people away from dev team, who actually do the work, for FREE. You guys are supposed to know what's up; it's disrespectful to devteam.
Yes, please remove the link. Statement by the Dev-Team relating to QuickPwn.com: http://twitter.com/iphone_dev/statuses/2314248790
@ Marcin
So its ok that dev-Team makes money by exploiting Apple but its wrong that quickpwn.com expoits the Dev-Team?
What goes around comes around...
@murmermer
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/41744653/donations-to-dev-null
Dev-Team doesn't make money by exploiting apple. They don't make money.
Get over it, the de facto term for ipod touches and iphones is itouch, its short/sweet/covers both. Quit being anal
At least you've got 1 person who checks your blog regularly ;)
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"On a personal note, I'm sad. Apple, it took me a week to break through your new defenses. And to let us reuse an exploit like that; 24kpwn was so 5 months ago. Although I imagine it must have been painful watching the devices roll by on the assembly line, knowing they all had a hole in them and you couldn't fix it."
Hey-Yo! Ouch!
i stopped jailbreaking my iphone since app store started to get lots of good stuffs in :p
The only reason I got this iCrap is because I know that the jailbreak will be out soon.. I moved from Windows Mobile to this, and even tho there are a lot of things that make the iPhone better, the little things is what really causes the issue
It's ironic that here people are thinking they're "sticking it to the man" by hacking their iPhones, while people in other countries are getting unlocked iPhones out of the box, and some are straight from Apple themselves. It boggles the mind.
That's not irony.
@Thomas Ricker, please don't link to the quickPWN.com they do not develop anything for the iphone and steal undeserved ad-revenue from the dev team.
@Brown Robott
Yeah, like the Wiimote or WinMo, or the 360 or PS1 or MS or ....
Dude in a world where "chrz m8 cu tomoz" means something a wee small abbreviation like iTouch can only get you worked up if you are already on edge.
Jailbreaking drives sales. Is anyone even shocked Apple allows this stuff? I'm sure's hell not. If you were the owner of a jailbroken 3G, wanting a 3GS, would you upgrade if you knew that the jailbreak and/or unlock were months and months away? Of course you wouldn't. Once you have that freedom, why would you give it up? Given that perspective, Apple wants you to buy their phones, they're in this business to advance the platform, and to make money. They'd rather have you buy an iPhone and jailbreak it, than not buy one at all. Given that the iPhone homebrew community is pretty large, this affects the bottom line. So, Apple leaves the exploits in. They know majority of users don't want to jailbreak for a great many reasons (don't care, too scared, it goes on and on), so they leave the exploit in to appease those who would had just waited anyway. I mean at least initially. It makes more sense to leave 3.0 open so the 3GS devices can get some market penetration, then issue a firmware update to lock out those who aren't careful about their jailbreak and auto updated.
i am curious what percent of iphones are jailbroken. i can't imagine that there are that many jailbroken iphones that they would worry about it that much. that is like saying that computer part manufacturers are all making computer parts for overclockers because everyone overclocks.
...but it is apple so who knows. hard to say what is going on with them sometimes.
your blog sucks balls
and big ones at that
Did you feel the sarcasm, because that's how I think he meant it when he said he was "sad."
a jailbroken 3gs is still a revenue generating unit sold for apple. They only give a shit to the extent they're obligated to give a shit under their contract with the carriers. Whatever geek hacker wrote that sarcastic "i'm sad' note probably should address it to AT&T.
It was kind of a punch in the face to Apple. He was kind of making fun of how the exploit was still there in bootrom, and they knew about it since march, but did not have time to fix it at that stage, since they probably started non-fpga production chips in late 2008, so they had to watch all those exploitable devices go by them at the factory and they couldn't do shit about it :P
my point remains - Apple doesn't really care that much once you buy the iPhone. Yes they'll play cat-and-mouse with the hackers, but mostly b/c the carriers require them to.
Apple keeps the ecosystem tight so the experience is good for the majority of consumers who don't hack. If you're willing to go outside the ecosystem, feel free, but those who venture out choose to do so knowing the risks.
Jailbreaking is just selling more iPhones. How much could Apple actually care.
I don't think Apple or AT&T put a gun to your head and forced you to get the iPhone.
If anything, these hackers are leeches. They wait for some company to spend millions on software and hardware R&D, get subsidies for the hardware, and then rip it open, demanding that they have full control of every aspect of the product. I'm not necessarily anti-iPhone hacking, but to act like it's your God given right to control unmarketed aspects of a product by giving Apple the proverbial software finger, is stupid. If it weren't for these "big evil corporate money grubbing companies", you all would probably be hacking an abacus.
not everyone is like that. I for one, like when devices are locked down, because it means that I get to have fun cracking it open. the Palm Pre, for example, is no fun in my mind, because you can flash firmware unsigned and execute unsigned code from boootloader level with no additional hacking, so it's all done for you. most of the people I hack with anyway, I can't speak for devteam, do this just because hacking it is fun, not because of "evil corporate greed" or some kind of weird hippie excuse.
They do it to make money, not some "good faith action" towards society. It's a company, not a humanity effort. Quit lauding them as if they're some kind of saint for producing something for you to buy. They're just like every other company.
They make a product that does X, Y, and Z. People want to be able to do A, B, and C on their phone too. They don't actually support that so a group of people do something so that A, B, and C can be done on aforementioned phone. That's all it is. When you start getting into the ethics of it, we could be here all then because it is subjective. Not to mention, lots of people do completely "ethical" things with their jailbroken phones. What's wrong with wanting a simple icon on the top right when you have unread emails, text messages, or other things?
These things don't necessarily undermine Apple/AT&T directly. Think about the Linksys WRT546G. Do you know why that router is probably one of the best wireless routers you can get? Because it's cheap and runs homebrew firmware (DD-WRT namely) like a champ. I wouldn't buy a router that couldn't run DD-WRT and when I bought the Linksys WRT350N, I bought it because it was the best performer on DD-WRT's site at the time.
Guess why I bought my PSP? Guess why I bought a Linksys NSLU2 a while back? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the original firmware or capabilities that impressed me.
If it wasn't for being able to jailbreak my iPhone, I probably wouldn't even buy one and Apple wouldn't get my business. Your logic is faulty ChrisM.
Will a jailbreaked 3gs allow
1) mp3 songs to be used as ringtones?
2) Allow conection via bluetooth to other bluetooth mobiles?
can do that to any iphone. just convert into m4r
How do ya convert them to that formay?
1) More or less. You convert the mp3 to aac (as easy as right clicking in itunes and selecting convert to AAC)
Then just upload to the ringtones folder using drag and drop via DiskAid or SSH.
2) yes, it called iBluetooth
i forgot, you gotta rename the file extension from .m4a to .m4r
then the iphone will see it as a ring tone
So do I need to install ibluetooth on my 3gs?
oh George, haha
When I come to think of it, this whole jailbreaking business seems to be almost sponsored or at least welcomed/wanted by Apple as it prevents blogs and news to stop writing about iPhone on and on and on and on...
I don't think Apple cares if people figure out how to jailbreak. What does it really matter to them, anyway? They know that MOST people are not going to bother and if you really want to do it, they still made money that jailbreakers might have spent on a different, more open mobile platform otherwise.
Not really. The devteam likes the challenge. The more closed, the more challenging it is to them. An open platform would be ignored by people on the dev team for the most part.
Of course, there would be no reason for the dev team to jailbreak an already open platform, silly. What I'm saying is that Apple isn't making it impossible (or trying that hard) because 1 - I don't think it is possible to make it completely IMpossible. 2- They know that some people would not buy the phone if the dev team didn't create a jailbreak.
Fernando, Apple and AT&T on the other hand say T H A N K __ Y O U !! for spending 2500 yearly...
Oh come on engadget, I love your articles and humor, but please make sure to link to OFFICIAL dev-team websites, and ESPECIALLY not ones that they have expressly stated as being "Adsense Abuse". They are squatting on QuickPwn.com with almost Zero content and tons of ads.
http://twitter.com/iphone_dev/statuses/2314248790
-Tommy
Of course, there would be no reason for the dev team to jailbreak an already open platform, silly. What I'm saying is that Apple isn't making it impossible (or trying that hard) because 1 - I don't think it is possible to make it completely IMpossible. 2- They know that some people would not buy the phone if the dev team didn't create a jailbreak.
Damn comment system!
I think it has gotten to the point where Apple is acting like they care but they don't. They want people to unlock and jailbreak their phones. They make more money and it only increases sales of the hardware itself.
I think Apple leaves the holes on purpose so that enterprising people who will never get AT&T, will still get an iPhone and jailbreak for tmobile and buy apps and other Apple accesories. :)
George +1, Your move apple.
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