posted Jun 30th 2009 6:56AM
The percentage of electronics at the end of their lives which were recycled.
The EPA found that the percentage remained consistent from 1999-2005. Even as recycling rates went up, the amount of electronics reaching end of life outpaced the increase, leaving the figure static. (source: EPA, July 2008)
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YES!
Second that.
thirded (is that even a word?)
Tegra phones is the future
If this is true I will dump the iPhone for it this year for sure. The Tegra appears to be the Motts!
With the robust OS that is WinMob6.5(want WM7) with amazing speed of Tegra.
Sounds friggen awesome to me!
windows mobile is the past - android is the future!
If it's Android, it'll NEED that extra power, since the OS suck batteries like a two dollar whore at Mardi Gras.
I'll take it with WM please, and install Android for testing, hoping it'll come into it's own SOME day.
nice :)
My guess is Samsung.
Top 5: LG, Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, SonyEricsson. This was the top 5 last time I heard about them. Could be anyone.
There were reports of Motorola Alexander based on Nvidia Tegra but we still have to see any proof. There were rumors of HTC making Tegra phone. And at the moment those are still rumors.
There have been no rumors of Samsung making Tegra device so far.
We know tegra will land in Zune HD. But that is the only Tegra device that has been officially confirmed at the moment, as far as I know.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
@Shinigami
You're right about the top 5 "cell phone" manufactures but the post specifically mentions the top 5 "smart phone" manufactures.
The top 5 smartphone manufactures are Nokia, RIM, Apple, HTC and Fujitsu (Until I just Googled it, I had no idea that Fujitsu made smartphones, let alone was in the top 5...)
The Tegra is probably gonna be in an HTC, but that's just my guess.
Since HTC already had a Tegra phone lined up for Q4 of 2009... My guess is dat this might be the HTC SuperStar....
Well according to an article found on UnwiredView, there will a Tegra phone released by either Motorola or Samsung so the possibility of it being Android isn't low. Looks like 2009 was the start-up year for Android.
Dictated, not read.
Oh please have Android on it!
Why Android? I like gmail integration but buying a phone just because of that...
It won't be Android. NVidia have already said that they intend to focus their attention on WinMo/WinCE.
"Nvidia: Right now we support Windows CE, Windows Mobile and Google Android…we feel that right now the Windows platform are more developed and more robust for the netbook market."
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/19/we-ask-what-is-tegra-and-why-does-it-matter/
Nvidia is focusing on Windows CE for netbooks....they haven't mentioned a preference for cellphones.
Please be Android...
I'd much rather it have WM on it, because it's easier to put Android on WM phones than it is to put WM on Android phones.
Android just isn't quite up to snuff yet (though that Sense UI is going a long way towards making it user friendly).
The ZuneHD kind of indicated the following , the zune-mobile platform is coming.
Molly Shannon style: "SuperStar!"
Shouldn't mobile devices consistently have resolutions above 320x480 before we start worrying about playing HD content on them? Just a thought.
The screen is too small anyway, but the idea is you get an hdmi connection and use the device to play HD anywhere.
Outputs 720p over HDMI.
I would consider switching from iPhone for a Tegra powered Andriod phone, but Microsoft WinMob ... meh!
Most high-end WinMo phones have had 800x480 resolution screens for a while now.
Malcolm: I said "consistently", meaning the majority of smartphones should have a resolution over 320x480, not "some". It pisses me off that smartphones have largely languished in the territory of 320x240 or 320x480 for what seems like forever.
And to the others: HDMI out? OK, I guess. Personally I don't get it, but whatever.
You dont "get" HDMI out? How can someone not "get" that?
Without HDMI out my ps3 looks like crap.
Jay: yeah, I don't "get" HDMI out on a freakin' cellphone.
xineze ever heard of DNLA? you can stream your HD videos from your phone to your HDTV without any wire
HDMI is just a bonus but you don't really need it, many phones already support DNLA
Who are the top five? My quick search revealed Nokia, Samsung, LG, Motorola and Sony Ericsson for last year, has the situation changed since last year?
Out of this bunch, my money would go on Sammy or LG, but SE(as HTC??) and Moto are still plausable.
Bring us the HTC superstar already........
They are still the top five, my money is on Samsung, they churning out phones like candy,
Sony Ericsson ditched HTC as their ODM for WinMo devices after the X1 in favour of Mobinnova (part of Foxxconn who also manufacture the iPhone and just about everything else in the known world). It would be nice if the X2 was the Tegra device in question, but I'm not holding my breath.
zune phone ftw! it could probably run windows 7
There'll never be a Zune phone made by Microsoft.
http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=815
Microsoft will continue to make the Zune standalone media players, and require 3rd party manufacturers to meet the same minimum specs, so that they can have a unified code base (and same Zune software). MS would piss off too many manufacturers if they made their own phone though.
I don't understand how that shows us it won't ever happen. It seems to me the pink rumors are still going. Also, MS has made other hardware though it competes with those they supply.
TareX aint around... guess he overslept again, lol..
this is awesome though... if it's true anyway. tegra is undisputed hotness and pretty much has a forseen deathgrip on skyblaze's bank account :)
Mobile internet device does not mean smartphone.
It could just be the new Zune HD with web browser and WiFi, or similar.
...zii fools...
this is all but confirmed for the new Storm 2! :P
you sir are an idiot.
You sir are an idiot for taking anything I say seriously.
@rickjamess04
Isn't that second comment a paradox then?
@ cocoviper - perhaps, yes. But wouldn't it be a reverse paradox?
Unless of course Haxor was seriously calling me an idiot--therefore no reverse paradox.
Windows Mobile? Who is building this thing, GM?
Not a Zune phone.
If it were a Zune phone, the spin would not be "from a top-5 cell phone maker", but something else entirely. Arguably the Zune component in a phone would be a bigger scoop than the provenance of said phone's manufacturer.
OMG. An HTC with Tegra, qwerty, oled screen and android please!!
jizz in my pants!
"yeah, I don't "get" HDMI out on a freakin' cellphone."
That's because you're still thinking of these types of devices as "just" a cellphone.
The chipset in the iPhone 3GS currently supports both recording and displaying 720p. It would just take a firmware update from Apple and the sale of a iPhone port to HDMI cable and you've got instant Tegra competition. Or, now that 3.0 allows devs access to the iPhone port, a 3rd party app could be created that could store and output 720p along with the sale of the cable mentioned above.
I know you didn't just compare an iphone to the tegras chipset. iDiot
Nvidia needs to upgrade Tegra. Although the GPU and video abilities are great, it uses a dual 600mhz ARM11, whereas all the new smartphones are using next-gen ARM Cortex-A8 CPUs and soon dual-core Cortex-A9s that scale to 1.5Ghz each. Not to mention PowerVR SGX GPUS can scale to meet Tegra and dedicated 1080P video abilities are available from all the major ARM manufacturers.
Yeah, I'd say that my biggest worry about Tegra is that outdated (outdating?) processor. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the processor the key factor in how fast most of the phone's features feel (like apps and web page rendering)? Also, couldn't Nvidia simply make a tegra that uses an ARM Cortex-A8, and maybe a A9 in the future?
Yes, they could, but that requires money and resources and I think they are in a state of mind of "good enough".
Although Tegra uses the ARM dual-core technology, The two processor cores are ARM11 based and can only run around 600mhz. Combined, this should give it a raw capability of ~1500 DMIPS.
The newer ARM Cortex-A8 core (iPhone 3GS, Pre, OMAP3) and Qualcomm's custom, Cortex-compatible Snapdragon core are both significantly faster than the ARM11 on a clock-for-clock basis, with a 600Mhz core coming in at ~1200 DMIPs. More significantly, the Cortex-A8 can easily scale to 1.0Ghz or higher on a 45nm process, and the even faster and more efficient Snapdragon core can go to 1.3Ghz. Additionally, the Cortex generation finally introduces a powerful parallel SIMD engine called NEON, which can be used to speed up intensive multimedia calculations. Finally, having an older dual-core ARM introduces more software complexity than a new single-core ARM of similar power, and as always, you NEVER get perfect core scaling in software, and only certain applications will be able to take advantage of it.
Even a 65nm-produced 800Mhz ARM Cortex-A8 or Snapdragon core would be far faster in real-world use than the Tegra's ~650 mhz dual ARM11.
Additionally, the even newer multi-core capable ARM Cortex-A9 architecture has been available for licensing for a few years now and are just starting to be sampled from major OEMs. No doubt Nvidia could integrate two or more Cortex-A9 cores into a new chip.
T.I.'s OMAP4 uses a dual-core Cortex-A9 clocked at 1000mhz+ and an SGX540+ GPU, and is capable of full 1080P encoding decoding. Similarly, Qualcomm has a monster dual-core, 1.5Ghz Snapdragon.
Overall, I hope Nvidia has an updated Tegra platform in the works. Otherwise the GPU and video capabilities are going to far outmatch general processing on all platforms.
Most importantly, having the greatest GPU in the world will do NOTHING to improve load times and rendering times of web pages, nor general application performance.
Can't wait to see this in the ZuneHD.