GSM Pre to launch on O2 in UK
By Nilay Patel 
posted July 1st 2009 3:58PM
posted July 1st 2009 3:58PM
posted July 1st 2009 3:58PM
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I wonder if it will have US 3g bands in it.
anyone know if it supports us 3g?
I guess not. Try asking this after it gets released. A while after. Like two weeks or maybe even a month after it's released. Until then, how could anyone know?
I'm pretty sure O2 uses the 2100 MHz band. Which if it does, then it might work with T-Mobile.
UK uses 1900/2100, while Att uses 850/1900 and T-mobile is 1700/2100. You have a better chance of them supporting 850/1900 than 1700/2100.
HUGE win for Palm, and why wouldn't it be 3G? I'm not familiar with O2, other than the fact it's the largest carrier in the UK.
tmobile USA uses 1700 mhz for their 3g, only. AT&T uses 850/1900mhz for 3g in the US. o2 uses 2100mhz for 3g. The Euro spec Pre will probably have quad band gsm 850/900/1800/1900 + 2100mhz for foreign spec 3G, but more than likely, not US 3G frequencies.
To be more specific.
UMTS / HSDPA devices operate in UMTS frequency bands 850/1900/2100 or 850/1700/2100 MHz:
* 2100 (downlink) / 1900 (uplink) for Europe and Asia (usually referred simply as W-CDMA 2100)
* 1900 / 850 (independently, for both the uplink and downlink) for America (e.g. AT&T)
* 2100 (downlink) / 1700 (uplink) for America (e.g. T-Mobile)
* 850 for Australia (Telstra NextG)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triband_(telephone)
@Gibson
That would be Vodafone or the new combined Vodafone/T-Mobile UK if that ever gets a green light from recent news.
cool. now put it on Verizon
a GSM Pre wouldn't work on Verizon silly!
very true chad. should of watched my words- just the device in general is wanted, not the GSM version.
By the way, how is to be a Verizon spokesmen now*
:)
*Reference to Alltel buyout
So they'll have the iPhone AND the Pre, not bad
now they just need a android phone
Seriously. Big coup for them. If they have an upgrade offer for iPhone 3G owners, I may be tempted...
Yeah, actually o2 is getting an Android device soon. The Samsung i7500 - I believe they're calling it the galaxy now? Also, I'm pretty sure that o2 will also be doing the LG KS360 with android, though i'm not 100% on that.
This is very bad. Less competition means that both of the phones will stay at £1000 and then £100000000000000 a moth for the rest of your life.
bitchin
Especially with the pointlessly puny keyboard: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3184021446_2fd787842c_o.png
Now it will become a failure in more than one country.
LOL...
iDiots! Why aren't you rejoicing you got competition? Make your iDevice better anyway, according to past records.
failure 300,000 units in the US without any heavy advertising?? pretty much a phone that regular people haven't heard of selling out in every sprint store you go with waiting list of about a month i guess thats failure for you.
Sorry couldnt resist.
Interesting to see how it works out with the iPhone and Pre on the same network, that IS competition.
No problem. I wanted to use "iDiots" once (and this was pretty good I think), so don't take it personal. Please accept my own apologies.
lol!
Lets just hope they saw the horrible reviews.
Am I missing something? I don't see anywhere in the article that says it's launching next week. Only that they will announce the partnership next week.
Ah I see title fixed...
Erm, might want to change that headline before UK Pre fans get over-excited. The announcement is next week, not the launch...
How can you post this and not comment on the fact that O2 also have the iPhone! They must be cackling with glee at their smartphone exclusivity.
I hope they don't. I'd consider buying an iPhone if it wasn't for the 3G coverage of o2, by far the worst in the country. All other networks have HSDPA where I live but o2 is still on EDGE for miles around.
"if it wasn't for the 3G coverage of o2"
if it WEREN'T for the 3G coverage...
Yeah, not great 3G coverage, but decent. Besides, o2 is going into network sharing with voda, and although we don't have the best HSDPA coverage, we have the most reliable coverage otherwise.
Sigh.. what about countries where operators don't do contracts?
This is why Nokia will be GSM leader for a long time.
That's good news...but where's my GSM_unlocked Pre?
You UK guys here, does O2 lock the hell of it, or I can import it with no worries?
Pre hackers, by rooting the phone and such, could I use another sim card on it?
from my experiance it's quite easy to unlock a 02 phone, alot of people do it.
Unlocking doesn't really depend on the network, it depends on the phone. Most of O2's contract phones come unlocked.
Theres no GSM version as of now, so I dont think there is an unlock RIGHT when you buy it. But if 02 gets it, it'll probably be released in France, Belgium (unlocked! Required by law =)), HOlland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Germany and the rest of europe pretty soon, don't think it's worth the import price
You can import it with absolutely no worries at all. That I can personally guarantee
Im planning to use it in Brazil, so importing is ALWAYS worthy ;)
I hope they follow the trend and release it unlocked. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
O2 firmware is easy to replace in most phones.
Vodafone, T-Mobile and Orange are a bit more difficult.
And once again, Canada gets the shaft. Despite the fact that the Pre that we'll eventually get in Canada on Bell is the same phone as the US (literally, for the iPhone 2G people just unlocked the US one and used it here), the UK is going to get a *new* version of the phone first.
This is why telephone exclusivity deals suck.
Ok, Telefonica / O2 is a carrier in a lot of European countries....Does the UK annoucement mean that we can expect this phone in the near future also in other European countries? September / Christmas is definitely too late for the launch of the Pre, Palm would loose a lot of potentially customers in most European markets....
The UK announcement means it will launch in France 13 days later, and in Italy 10 days after that. I know that cos I have inside knowledge.
Is that the answer you were looking for?
How is O2 as a carrier compared to let say Orange?
Orange are rubbish and o2 are excellent. I came to that conclusion after extensive and exhaustive analysis. I can show the the spreadsheets if you want
O2 is a bit better than Orange but still sucks pretty much compared to T-Mobile which I find the best carrier in the UK. Too bad they've got shitty phones ;(
O2 have the least 3G masts in the UK