Video: iPhone copy and paste is a 'pretty incredible thing'... for 1999
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Jul 1st 2009 8:12AM
posted Jul 1st 2009 8:12AM
Look Apple, your copy and paste feature is pretty intuitive and all but let's face it, you're late to the party. About two full software revisions late we'd say. And listing it as one of the "pretty incredible things" in your latest ad about the iPhone 3G S iPhone 3GS is kind of silly since it's available on your previous models too. Maybe you're just being ironic?
wow.... so unique, so revolutionary
Gosh, does this mean whenever the Pre gets copy-n-paste we can expect an article saying "...for 1999", too?
Yeah yeah yeah, I know, the Pre probably won't be getting copy-n-paste.
@freakin
What does the Pre have to do with this? WinMO phones have been doing C&P for years as Engadget was likely pointing out. It's not something that Apple just added as a "pretty incredible feature". LOL
@Freakin...
Huh??
Pretty sure the Pre came with copy-n-paste our of the box:
http://mypre.com/palm-pre-copy-and-paste-feature-200917229
Just LOL....
Well done Engadget for making my day by poking fun at this absurd, oops I mean increbile thing. Watch out, AAPL may ban you from future events.
Also, LOL@Paul trying to justify the increbile claim.
@Paul
I don't know how the copy and paste is for the Pre but I don't see anything unique about how Apple implement the copy and paste is unique at all. It's the exact same way WinMo and Android has been doing it.
@kevin - you would be wrong.
@htowngator - what does winmo have to do with this?
Lol!
LOL, notice that no one can dispute the video I've provided. If you watch the Pre's implementation of copy & paste or Windows Mobile implementation of copy & paste and compare it to Apple's commercial, it's obvious that Apple's copy & paste is a huge leap forward.
I mean, anyone watching this commercial can go out and buy an iPhone and immediately know within seconds of activating it, how to do copy & paste.
If they buy a comparable WinMo phone or a Pre, they have to read the manual. That in itself is why this commercial is going to sell more iPhones. In fact, I feel sorry for someone who goes to Best Buy or a Sprint store and asks a service person how to do copy & paste. I guarantee that most of the teenage staff won't know how to do it. Of course, when I was in Best Buy, they didn't even have a working model of the Pre.
These commercials are effective because they are essentially showing people how to use the phone while amazing them at the same time. And that my friends, is great marketing.
@ Paul Chapel
So does Steve ever bother to give you a reach around every now and then? Would be totally mean if he didn't. Sorry, but someone had to say it. Stop making everything out like Apple invented the wheel or made things revolutionary just because it is done through OSX mobile. Your proclivity along with other Apple fanboys to make the simplest functions other companies have done for years seem amazing and new as well as smug is what makes other people sick of Apple's fanbase. It does look nice, but in the end it gets the job done and that is all we care about, as those of us who really have needed copy and paste these years instead have been using Blackberry's and WinMo at work. Seriously, stop drinking so much Apple flavored Kool Aid.
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, Did I miss something?
+1
wait... how am I wrong? I do not have a Pre, but I'd say the video of a palm pre doing copy and paste pretty much validates what I said...
Thomas Ricker is a pretty incredible idiot.
I mean if this is what the guy really looks like (http://images.shareordie.in/uploads/2008/02/2246976.jpg) he has no business criticizing anything ... ever.
Hey paul -
If there is a video about it, apparently is isn't a given that everyone knows how to do it. Especially considering the average iPhone owner is severely technically challenged.
Oh, and go check out copy and paste on the Storm. It's been out for quite awhile and guess what? It'a c&p uses multi-touch and is super intuitive.
Your comment makes no sense.
Paul, paint it however you want but its just copy and paste. There is nothing special and unique there - just copy and paste. I saw the commercial last night and found it embarrassing. Honestly, as a fanboy you should choose your fights better. Not every issue is one that Apple is right on.
I like my iPhone, but this copy paste issue/commentary is a joke.
The problem with most of the people here is that the commercial is not directed toward geeks. It's directed to people who've never used a smart phone, which is why the commercial is so effective. My mother could watch this commercial and essentially be on the same level as hardcore geeks. I think that's why so many people are pissed about the iPhone.
Apple is taking what is essentially a geek thing, the smart phone and giving it to the masses, like the Gutenberg printing press.
You may know how to do this on your Blackberry or WinMo phone or Pre, and you may even be proud that you had this feature years ago, and even learned it when the implementation was terrible, because hey you're a geek and that's what geeks do, but now grandma has found the keys to the club house.
Man, that has got to hurt.
Put down the hate stick and think for a moment.
Everyone has been bitching, moaning and blogging about how the iPhone lacked c/p. Now that they have it, of course they want to get the word out. And yes, they dared to showcase the ability to copy not only plain text, but rich text, images maps, and how simple it is to do so. Do *ALL* smartphones copy more than just plain text?
And if you listen carefully you'll note that they never, ever, even once said they *invented* copy & paste. I swear to god, they really didn't claim that - please don't project and lie for the sake of sensationalism. It just makes you a liar. Do you really need to lie to build a case against them?
And finally, try to remember that Apple entered the smartphone market years after winmo and palm did, so it's not all that surprising that they didn't have every feature the previous smartphones had developed over the years. Heck, they didn't even have apps or an SDK when it came out!
It's a new product for them, it is expected that older products were there first. Duh!
Wow, the WinMoBots are seriously going to gloat over copy/paste when the rest of their OS is a dusty old relic? Hilarious.
I can't wait until WinMo 7 so you tools can wax joyous over swipes and gestures (since WinMo 7 will surely look much like the iPhone).
WinMo = no one cares anymore. Deal with it.
They won't put down the hate stick. The EXACT same people who flamed Apple for two years and who said "Touch screens suck" and that "Multi-touch was a gimmick" and said that they would never buy a phone that didn't have video or voice dialing or who hated on the iPhone for not having Flash support; these are the same people who now love the Pre, even though it doesn't have many of the same features.
The same people that bashed Apple for NOT having copy & paste are now bashing Apple for having copy & paste. You really expect the rational from these people?
C&P is a hardcore geek thing? My sides are starting to hurt.
Apple has a history of patting themselves on the back for copying other people's designs and acting like they've innovated. (e.g. - GUIs)
Paul, the first thing that WinMo users learn when they first switch their phone on is how to copy and paste. It's in the initial setup screen and couldn't be easier. In fact, it works the same way on tablets as Microsoft have standardised across all their products.
If you'd ever used WinMo you would know this.
@Quix: Actually, I think you'll find it's the Apple Fanboys who are gloating over their "incredible/newly discovered/revolutionary" copy and paste function... everyone else isn't gloating, more like pointing out how ridiculous it is to use copy and paste as a marketing strategy. If the advert had never been made by Apple no one would be talking about copy and paste, it would be like texting, another function that every phone has and doesn't need discussing.
@Paul: Who wants the same phone as a ten year old girl? The fact that kids have no idea what the TG01 is actually makes it more attractive to me, not less.
Sorry Paul but that's not the point. You made a specific claim and when proven wrong you just come up with some other crap.
Here you are bashing Microsoft but the truth is you've never even used their product. Nevertheless, you happily criticise the way they do copy and paste and when called out on it you turn to your niece for support. Give me a break. Nobody's interested in your niece and nobody's interested in your pathetic arguments.
"Paul, the first thing that WinMo users learn when they first switch their phone on is how to copy and paste." - jakem
I thought the first thing WinMo users learn is how to reboot their phones? :P
@ DarKlar:
Who is "gloating" about copy/paste? It's *ridiculous* that it took Apple two OS revisions to finally add this functionality. Absurd, really. That said, I'm glad to finally have it.
The Apple haters are running out of ammo though. They'll always have the virtual keyboard and non-removable battery to gripe and moan about, I suppose. Until the ZunePhone is unveiled with both, at which point they'll conveniently forget both complaints and start kvetching about Steve Jobs' turtlenecks again.
It's not easy being a Microsoft apologist these days...
Paul, I know what your saying, but I think you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Just because a product has the most sales doesn't make it the best. I don't think ten year olds would really be looking at processor speed and RAM when buying a phone, they would want what is seen by the consumer world as being the 'in' item at the time irrespective of functionality.
Oh, a Apple post!!! Quick, Paul A. Chapel is going to start posting about how, regardless of what light the blog post puts Apple in, he is going to faithful defend it, to the bitter end, no matter how idiotic.
Too late...
Leave it to Apple PR machine to spin copy/paste as a revolutionary concept, they might as well claim they invented copy/paste. And leave it to Paul A. Chapel to defend it.
This has nothing to do with Pre, WinMO, Microsoft, etc...Nothing, so I don't know why people are brining them into this blog post. It is about Apples insane PR and Marketing; hell, even Engadget of all people had to show how ridiculous this was.
Paul if you agree then aren't you just contradicting your previous point regarding sales? Personally I judge every device I choose to use ON ITS OWN MERIT. I actually prefer Apple computers to PC's, however like I said (and you agreed) you can't use sales to argue that the iPhone is the best phone, nor should you blindly just buy everything a brand is throwing at you.
I have no loyalty to Apple, I just want the best device to suit my needs. Apple laptops suit my needs. The iPhone doesn't. Had this been the third incarnation of the 3GS we might be somewhere by now, in my opinion there was no need for the 2G or the 3G.
Looks like he's starting to break guys... Maybe you should go easy on him.
@Paul:
when you turn on your Window Mobile Device, after settings the time, it gives you a tutorial on how to do copy and paste, no need to open the manual.
Does anyone else find it funny/offensive that apple had to actually make a commercial showing how to copy and paste? Is it that hard?
Paul I'm not an Apple hater. I do have a grudge against the iPhone though, and with good reason.... it could soooo easily have been so, so much better. However if everyone avoided a brand because one of their products didn't suit them no one would sell anything!
Your facts are straight, you get flamed because you make ridiculous points and come across as an iEvangelist by not seeing that even with your facts being right, the iPhone is not the best (judged on memory, speed and function) phone, unless the best phone for you is one with semi decent functionality and a very good UI.
So, even though you're right, you're wrong.
Its good there isn't a perfect phone for everyone if everyone loved the same phone and one worked for all competition and innovation would be gone. Each phone has strengths and weaknesses. Its best that way.
Wow... wellcome back to the future!!
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1313/ppvsai.jpg
Regards,
@ Alejandro: LOOOOL!!!
Another point that people do not often point out is the lack of delivery reports for texts, which I rely on not only for work. It's so useful to be able to tell the second a text has been delivered.
Since the iPhone does not have multitasking would it be annoying if you have to copy several section of one app to another and having to constantly start at the beginning of the page? It seems limiting.
"The commercial has the same effect as bringing a bag of ice to a primitive African tribe in the Sahara. Just because you've seen ice doesn't make it anymore less magical than someone who hasn't. Would you complain if someone made an ice commercial targeted toward people who had never seen ice?"
Are you saying that you think people don't know about ice/the freezing process and that people have never seen copy and paste before?
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@Paul: Again I see where you're coming from, I just think that in this (engadget) environment people expect more than the average consumer... If apple want to make a 'smart phone lite' that can easily be used by people who aren't that technologically minded then thats all well and good, it will bring in lots of $, a large proportion of the community will buy one and be able to use it. Fantastic for them.
However....
On these threads you HAVE to expect a device like that to get ripped apart, as most readers are VERY tech and just want the most advanced and cutting edge item there is, not because they hate apple but because they hate the fact the iPhone doesn't or didn't have some very basic features that a lot of us rely on. On the same token you can't argue a point like 'the copy and paste is better' on these threads without getting burned because it is irrelevant how easy it is to do, any one of us could use the most awkward copy and paste routine a couple of times and it would become second nature. The fact that it is simple/nice is just window dressing, not a selling point for us.
Paul, most people aren't Apple haters, they are YOU haters... please read my previous post in an article in which a LOT of reasonable (not you) iphone users bring up complaints about their phones. NO ONE said anything about how apple sucked, they had a rational discussion. The ONLY thing missing, was you. Get a life, you hurt Apple more than you help.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/30/iphone-os-3-1-beta-now-available-for-developer-community/comments/19808468/
Actually, Paul, most of them are quite fond of Apple. Just take a look at any of the surveys that Engadget puts out. A disproportionate (relative to the general market) number of Engadget readers are Apple users.
The thing is that you say really inflammatory (often untrue) things, piss off people who normally wouldn't say ANYTHING AT ALL, and then they point it out. Then you respond to them, and someone else joins in the fight. The problem is you're so zealous in your devotion the other Apple users on the page don't exactly want to join in on your side. So here you are, talking about delivering ice to people in a desert, and trying to defend that six clicks to paste a chunk of text is "revolutionary" - and no one wants to openly agree with you, even if they do.
So I reiterate - it isn't that Engadget (or their readers) are "Anti-Apple" or "Pro-whoever-apple-is-competing-with", it's just that you attract the comments from the most extreme opposing views.
Go read an article that you DON'T comment on, and see just how badly everyone bashes on Apple. You'll find it's nearly non-existent when you (or the handful of other users like you) aren't involved. I believe that you are, ostensibly, the cause of the anti-Apple bias you perceive.
I know. Apple should've just included this in their list of bug fixes not enhancements or "Incredible Things".
Don't forget the voice dialing. I have seen that same dumb commercial ever other minute.
Great you have voice dialing, a little late to the party, but thanks for showing up.
i've been able to copy and paste since the earliest days of DOS on old IBM XT in like 1982.
Apple, sometimes you're like the dumbest smart people I know.
I love my iPhone, but this no way in hell qualifies for innovation.
It's innovation if you're used to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVnYwTnrII0
Seriously, you need to read a user's manual to understand copy & pasting in something like Windows Mobile. On the iPhone, you just take your fingers and do it. That's a heck of a leap forward.
Listing the implementation of C&P on the 3rd generation of phone as a feature THEN making a commercial about it. That's innovation.
Imagine the 30-minute infomercial they'd shoot if they ever decide to make that battery removable...
"Imagine the 30-minute infomercial they'd shoot if they ever decide to make that battery removable..."
Alas, Billy Mays wasn't answering their calls.
Paul,
Seriously, are you an iDiot, or do you just act like one for the sake of antagonizing others?
Copy/Paste on WinMo is EXTREMELY intuitive.
All you have to do is hold down your finger over the text you want to select, then swipe it, then hit copy once you're done (which pops up automatically from a selection menu).
Alternatively, double-tapping either a word, sentence, or paragraph can also bring up the copy option.
Paste is simply a matter of holding down your finger/stylus anywhere and waiting for the menu to come up, then selecting paste.
Maybe it's too difficult for iDiots to highlight text these days?
Who knows?
@ Paul "Seriously, you need to read a user's manual to understand copy & pasting in something like Windows Mobile."
Wow, Paul... you must be a freakin' idiot. "Wait! Hold shift and drag over text? Wow, that was so complicated, I needed my company's IT guy to show me how to do it... and it''s *nothing* like one of the ways to copy and past text on a PC."
If you're going to be a fanboi, at least pick smart battles. Arguing that iPhone's copy and paste is "unique" or "innovative" just makes you look like an idiot and completely undermines any credibility you had for your other "arguments" on other topics (I know, I know... this presumes that Paul had any credibility to begin with)
lol paul you're an absolute idiot.
Copy on paste on windows mobile is just as simple as iphone, drag and hold select copy.
It's nothing revolutionary, apple haven't done anything revolutionary since the launch off the app store.
Let me ask you guys a simple question. Do you think a non-geek could watch this 30 second iPhone commercial and immediately remember how to copy & paste? Can we agree that that is possible?
Okay (assuming you agree), do you equally agree that a company like Microsoft could make a 30 second commercial that demonstrates copy & paste in WinMo and have people remember?
I think not.
It's not that the WinMo implementation is particularly hard (it's not if you really want to learn it), it's that the iPhone implementation is so easy that a four year old could do it. And that's why the iPhone sells.
Paul,
How about the 15 seconds it takes to read WindowsFTW's post (since I know you didn't):
"Copy/Paste on WinMo is EXTREMELY intuitive.
All you have to do is hold down your finger over the text you want to select, then swipe it, then hit copy once you're done (which pops up automatically from a selection menu).
Alternatively, double-tapping either a word, sentence, or paragraph can also bring up the copy option.
Paste is simply a matter of holding down your finger/stylus anywhere and waiting for the menu to come up, then selecting paste."
Ta-da.
My question was whether Microsoft could present their implementation of copy & paste in a commercial and have people remember how to do it. I've watched videos of copy & paste in WinMo and I couldn't tell you how to do it if my life depended on it.
I've watched Apple's copy & paste commercial twice (once on TV, once here) and I could remember how to do it after the first view.
Apple's implementation with copy & paste encapsulates the kind of wow people felt when Steve Jobs first demonstrated Safari Mobile. Personally, I had seen internet on phones before, but before Steve Jobs showed the iPhone's implementation, I had never really WANTED it on a phone, because WAP browsers sucked.
Apple version of copy & paste makes you WANT copy & paste. That's a huge difference.
My BB Storm had copy/paste out of the box, and it used touch to do it...
Also, my older BBs had copy/paste, I held shift and highlighted the text...pretty basic, they've had it for a decade.
Let it go Paul...you lose.
Paul,
Truly, your comments do not dignify a response as they exemplify the epitome of trolling.
Nevertheless, pray, do tell, what is so apparently difficult about the WinMo implementation of Copy/Paste (I would wager you have never used it).
You want a 30 Second Commercial for WinMo Copy/Paste?
I'll Do it in half that time!
1. DRAG finger/stylus over text you wish to copy thereby highlighting it (THAT MEANS IT MAKES IT BLUE !!)
2. Then Hold Finger/Stylus over the highlighted text, a menu pops up, SELECT COPY!
3. To Paste, simply hold finger/stylus down anywhere, menu pops up again, SELECT PASTE!
Oh My God, who would've thunk it?
Highlighting text allows you to copy it.
Holding down finger somewhere gives you the option to paste it.
Stop the presses, we need to make a commercial now because people may forget that highlighting text highlights it for copy/pasting!
I am now laughing even more at Paul, poor guy, LOL.
On Windows Mobile, once you realise that tap and hold brings the context menu up, everything is very intuitive because it works the same as on PC's.
When you first get a Windows Mobile device and it is customising for first use, there is usually a quick tutorial on how to do this.
You are a funny guy.
@Paul
"And that's why the iPhone sells."
No, the iPhone sells because idiot fanboys like you treat Apple like they could do no wrong.
You guys keep ignoring the question. I didn't ask if it was easy for YOU. I asked if Microsoft could make a commercial that people could watch and remember the feature.
I know you're going to say "yes," but you know that's baloney. The fact is, swiping something with a finger can be remembered. The way copy & paste works in WinMo can not be demonstrated in a memorable way in a 30 second commercial. Do I think it can be remembered by a regular user. Yes. Do I think it can be remembered after watching a commercial. No. That's the argument.
Flame me all you want, but you know I'm right.
First off, I'll definitely say that copy and paste should have been in the iPhone at 2.0 for sure. Not defending Apple on that one at all.
I am curious though, I've heard 2 things innovative about Apple's implementation that other smartphones apparently don't do:
1. Ability to copy and paste pictures from the web, photos app and such.
2. Ability to recognize the layout of a web page allowing the user to copy just the article column on a multi column website.
Is this true? If so, I could see that being something unique for now.
Also, the reason I cay Copy and Paste was needed in 2.0 and not 1.0 is due to the lack of 3rd party software in 1.0. Back then, data detectors worked well enough to not really need copy and paste right away. Receive an address in an e-mail, and just tap it to see it on a map. Receive a phone number, and tap it to call. It was enough to hide the lack of copy and paste for a little bit.
@Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVnYwTnrII0
LOL.......
Wow, you linked to the same 2 minute video that I linked to. You are talented.
Pedro ;-)
That ought to shut that troll Paul up.
You can even cut/copy/paste on a non-touch screen version of WinMo.
That's something that is physically impossible to do on an iPhone (assuming that the touch input component ever stopped working one day).
Fast Forward to about 2:00.
You wanted your 30 second commercial, you got it.
Furthermore, behold:
MULTI-TASKING !
Copy from your web browser.
Paste within a Word Document.
Once more, something that is impossible to do on the iPhone (you guys don't even have an Office suit capable of such feats...but that's for another debate).
LOL that is what makes it so funny.
You post evidence against your own arguments.
Now that is talent....LOL
Even other Apple fans brand you an iTard, they should not cringe, just laugh at how absurd you appear be, just like everyone else does.
@Paul: I took a look at the video you linked to, and I watched it, and I didn't need to replay the video to know how it works. Maybe you're a bit slower (that's not a bad thing), but I'm quite sure most people who watched that video probably didn't need to rewind it to see how it works again, because it's not the difficult if you can read a menu.
I also don't have too much experience with Windows Mobile phones, but it doesn't really seem that hard if you can read a menu. Sure, it's not as pretty looking as the iPhone's, but if you're literate you can understand how to copy & paste on a WinMo phone.
LOL at you guys who continue to perpetuate the myth that the iPhone doesn't do multi-tasking, when it has done multi-tasking from the beginning. You expect to be taken seriously?
And still, you guys are missing the big point. I concede the fact that you could make a commercial demonstrating copy & paste on Windows Mobile. The crux of my question is whether people would REMEMBER how to do copy & paste after watching such a commercial. The answer is no. Microsoft's implementation of copy & paste is not easy enough to remember without doing it repeatedly, while the Apple commercial is memorable after one viewing.
@Paul
Wait... why wouldn't anyone remember the method WindowsFTW posted? It sounds pretty much identical to the iPhone method. I assume the "shift" method is what it used on non-touchscreen phones, but I'd imagine that people without touchscreens are used to using the buttons, no?
lol @ Paul
Microsoft doesn't need a video because the first time you boot up there's a super short tutorial that explains copy and paste by having you do it once. I manage to still remember this even though I haven't owned a windows mobile device in years.
Thus, only a complete and utter moron wouldn't be able to understand how to drag then tap/hold to copy, or to tap and hold for the paste.
And on the Palm Pre you don't have to fiddle with the edit menu since the actual phone has a keyboard where it's the menu button and c or menu button and p. How is that hard?
Read the post Paul, nobody thinks copy & paste is innovative in 2009. You do make your point though - it is a nice commercial.
No Paul.
Get this through your thick, obtuse head.
MOST (as in 90+%) of the WinMo phones sold on the market are Touch Screen devices.
They all implement the exact same method of Copy / Paste as your precious iPhone -- the method I demonstrated to you 1 page back.
Highlight text with finger/stylus, then hit Copy on the pop-up menu.
Hold finger / stylus elsewhere, menu pops up again, then hit paste.
IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.
For the < 10% of the WinMo non-touchscreen phones (which are being phased out like theres no tomorrow), the method involves you hitting the Menu Key to repeat the procedure above using hard keys instead of your finger.
Paul your line about Apple making you WANT to copy and paste was the funniest thing I have read today. Thanks!
I think its funny how people argue about how intuitive things are, its only really intuitive if you know it, which, doesn’t sound really intuitive at all. OSX users may have an easier time with iPhones and Windows users may have an easier time with Winmo phones. Neither OS is intuitive, to argue that OSX is intuitive is ridiculous, I have some friends who I used to have to help with their computers all the time when they had windows, they both got Macs for school later on and their questions seemed to double. I’m not blaming this on OSX and saying its a terrible OS, just, its not intuitive, its just about what you are used to. The same could obviously be said about Windows, if you are used to OSX you may have a terrible time with windows, heck, between different versions of windows such as XP and Vista can be rather confusing, it just takes time. Saying that anyone can pick up an iphone and immediately know how to use it is ridiculous, like with anything, there is a learning curve. You need to spend time with it, when my coworker got her iphone she had so many questions. It all comes down to what you are used to and what you know.
Perhaps the reason Microsoft has not made a commercial dedicated to Copy-Paste is because it does not treat consumers like idiots who need to be walked through every step of their phone by a man with a friendly voice and some cute music.
@ Windows FTW
Why are you even trying with Paul. Let him be with his iPhone in love wherever he wants, you'll get an ulcer. I've used Palm and WinMo devices for years and it has been thought as a basic feature for them. Your better off not arguing with a 12 year old and his JonasBros-filled-OCD-I'mAlways-right-you-will-never type of person. Your basically fighting with eric cartman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xdvXbHQR2I&feature=PlayList&p=6B724D67B6D7A37F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23
Paul...you're an idiot.
The implementation on the iPhone is the EXACT same as WinMo!
Highlight...select copy....find place to copy....paste
Have you not used a computer before???
You're really slow dude.
@Paul
That video is for the non touchscreen Windows Mobile phones. What do you expect without a touch screen? How about you compare the touchscreen Windows Mobile phones?
Lol well windows mobile is just as easy as the iPhone. Apple is late on the copy and paste and should have been in since the beginning. The iPhone copy and paste does have more feature though. I wish it had stacks like clippy. I just saved my email in the stacks to enter it anytime I needed instead of typing the whole thing out.
I think paul knows he's wrong and he's just going on and on because he is lol. It's alright just go make another username and no one will ever know it is you.
Paul, you have called Apple a sell-out, now you are calling Apple an Apple hater. If anybody says anything negative about Apple, then you label that person an Apple hater. You said that the iPhone has multi-tasking, and yet Apple themselves have said that the iPhone does not do multi-tasking. From the iPhone Human Interface Guidelines:
"Only one iPhone application can run at a time, and third-party applications never run in the background. This means that when users switch to another application, answer the phone, or check their email, the application they were using quits.
If you are running an application such as AOL Instant Messenger on your iPhone, every time you receive a call or browse away from the application you would be signed out, you would lose any unread messages, and your conversations would end."
So if the iPhone has multi-tasking (you have claimed it to be true), and Apple says they do not do multi-tasking. Since anything contrary to the truith about Apple makes them an Apple hater, Apple is an Apple hater, QED.
Wow, this article is pretty late...
Give a brother a break. He was posting stuff at 3:00 in the morning.
Engadget deserves some kudos for posting something like this against Apple. Good step in the right direction, I'd say.
its called marketing and apple is the best at it. they have a business to run and to make money. not every phone has copy and paste, its nice but not a necessity. so to criticize them for this is just a complete lack of marketing knowledge.
Its amazing that these windows tards get away with all the down ranking and stupidity on this site. Anyway, THE BIG difference between this copy and paste and others is the full support for HTML, images, formatting everything, and you can copy it from anything.
Sure its not enough to make a commercial about it, but let me ask you idiots this. How many other phone commercials do you see where they actually show you the phone being used, not the phone flying through space dj'ing an asteroid dance party, not a phone driving a race car, not a phone doing backflips on a screen filled with fancy graphics. Just a hand running the phone, SHOWING OFF the actual product.
Im sure ill get downranked due to the fact that your obviously revolutionary POS phone that nobody ever heard of has been doing all of this and paying your bills for you since WW2.
Find me a phone above £60 that dosn't have copy and paste and I'll buy it for you.
@Tsing
Well they show a hand doing things on a iPhone, however the sequences have been shortened to make the device appear faster than it really is. In fact they had to add a little text disclaimer about it because people would see a commercials and then use the device and the response would not be nearly as fast.
So bravo apple for using a real phone, a real hand, a really good editing to make a commercial make your product look much better then it actually is.
Comparison video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN1Nz1Dyls
Lawsuit: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Apple-Who-Believes-Our-Ads-Anyway-99450
@kal well duh, its still a commercial. Doing a full demo of multiple features on ANY phone would take too long.
@ Tsing Tao
Actually every commercial that has to do with cell phones SHOW THE PHONE BEING USED. AT&T commercials for phones always show it being used, as does Verizon, T-mobile, even Alltel. Samsung, LG and the small amount of HTC commercials all do as well. Your argument really wasn't smart or thought out, you just wanted to immaturely bash WinMo users.
@Tsing Tao: For starters WinMo has always been capable of copying and pasting text, images, etc. Why bash Windows users when their OS has been able to do these simple things for ever.
Secondly, Apple have already been found guilty of lying and misleading viewers in their iPhone ads and forced to take them off the air.
Fanman:
I'll be expecting my 2.0 iPhone in the mail any day now.
Copy a phone number and paste it into a msg yes.... paste it to the phone keypad to dial it... not that I've found
Actually that's one of the coolest things I like about my iPhone which I havent seen out there (although that doesn't mean its not available). All phone numbers in texts messages, web pages and emails become "clickable" and call be called simply by tapping them. Incredibly useful while using the phone while driving (I know, I know, not safe).
@HackToTheFuture
Pretty much all modern Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones make things like that clickable, and also support copy and paste. Not just on the smartphones either.
@hackable... Pretty much any WinMO phone does that too (I'm not a WinMO fan either). Wow.... Innovative there.
my G1 does that too. websites: click and you're there. email: click and they're the recipient. phone number: click and its ready to dial, add to contacts, text, forward, copy... its all there. all like everyone's precious iphone :\.
they brag about features being all inuitive amazing and godly when it's been around fro years. this article's right on point.
@Hack
My Curve does that too. Useful, yes. Revolutionary, no.
I'm inclined to believe the majority of iPhone users haven't ever used another smartphone. There isn't one feature on the iPhone that hasn't been done before, Apple just did what Apple does and pulled it all together in a pretty little package.
Palm did it too at least as far back as the Treo 650
"paste it to the phone keypad to dial it"
This is coming in the 3.1 release that was given to developers today.
Hack,
Every single WinMo phone has been able to do that, for YEARS now.
Matt,
Agreed.
By the sounds of it, MOST iPhone users have never used a true smartphone.
No wonder, they think Apple invented clickable links within messages.
I mean seriously, it's better to not open your mouth at all Apple fanboys than to open it and remove all doubt.
@HackToTheFuture
Forget smartphones, my last 4 or 5 dumphones could with 2-3 button presses dial a number from a txt/email/webpage.
But thanks for perpetuating the stereotype that iPhone users think Apple invented everything.