So as it turns out, Intel isn't just
casually accepting of Google's new OS initiative, it's actually been privy to the project for some time now, according to a spokesperson for the chipmaker. The two have apparently also worked together (and are potentially still working together) on portions of
Chrome OS, he says, which really makes it all the more curious that the company isn't mentioned
among Google's first partners while Qualcomm, Freescale, and Texas Instruments are. Then again, said inclusion might make the Moblin team more than a little bit upset, and either way, let's not forget that Atom chips will be sold regardless of which OS is on the system -- it's really kind of a win-win situation that we reckon the hardware division isn't complaining about.
posted Jul 10th 2009 6:41PM
M$ Sucks.
1. Post first.
2. Mention something not in the article.
3. Be raving mad, but succinct.
4. Derail the topic.
Classic.
see now if you said -monster cable- you could've been high ranked. but nooo. you just had to choose the totally biased and nonsensical option.
this is why we can't have nice things. enjoy your shade of gray tho :)
Nope your mother sucked. All last night. Staying power of a first class whore I tell you. And damn. Some of the kinky stuff she was suggesting? Really man. You need to sit her down and have a talk with her. Lot of guys like straight up meat and potatoes....some of that crap.....I mean air compressors? For god sake kid. Get her help.....really big freak.
@Phineas
I do not know chaos motives to the post, but he actually (or accidentally) has a point.
When Wintel alliance between M$ and Intel was forged, M$ forced Intel to abandon completely desktop software development. Intel had very good software many might still recall from times of Windows 3.x. But then it was gone.
As Wintel alliance crumbled, M$ had lost its influence of past, I can be only happy about return of Intel to desktop software development.
You $uck...
hey at least I didn't just write
FIRST!
That's kind of weird since Intel is doing it's Moblin thing...
i know huh
but either way I still like both companies products
but if they ever attempt to take over the world we must rize
It would actually make a lot of sense for Moblin to be the base of Chrome OS. They haven't formally announced the parent project, if any, that it's based on. Their goals, in terms of boot time, simplicity, etc all overlap substantially.
Well I think intel is willing to work with pretty much any (serious) OS developer since they primarily sell chips. So they'll work with MS and Apple and Google and big *nix developers.
But with their support of Moblin it would be pretty weird to be one of the major backers of both Chrome and Moblin.
good sir whoever photoshoped that Chrome logo onto the Intel Atom Inside logo is an absolute GENUIS, I bow to you.
It's well done because there's a certain ominous quality as it lurks behind intel and seems to surge into vision, subtel how the chrome logo is ever so slightly larger than the intel one creating that effect.
Reminds me of how I once asked someone about something that he had created and which tens of thousands of people admired, I asked about a clever detail and how he thought of it and he said "huh? No that was just coincidence", but for some reason I still don't believe that :) even though that's a bit like religion where people admire a random evolutionary thing and insist on there being a purpose like fools, but still when something is actually made by some guy at least you have a reason to assume it was done on purpose (unlike the case with their imaginary friend), especially if it must have taken time and effort of the guy.
Oops I'm rambling, excuse me.
Almost reminds me of HAL.
Hopefully they can come out with an OS that actually runs nice on a Netbook, don't get me wrong Linux is great but something other then Windows and Linux would be better. Thats just my two cents
Well ChromeOS n Moblin are both built on top of Linux, so keep wishing harder.
The main problem/advantage of Linux is the interface. Currently Linux as far as specs n stuff goes runs great on netbooks, but the UI is a bit of a hodge podge. XP/7 ain't much better, but at least with linux you cna get someone like Google come across n refine a desktop OS to just netbooks.
Linux is just a kernel, not an operating system. On the surface "Linux OS" many familiar with is X Window System and GNOME or KDE desktop environments (yes redundant, I know). Google Chrome OS is likely to feature its own window system and therefore should have different user interface to other linux distros.
No one is calling OS X just another BSD distro.
Moblin is amazing on a netbook. My friend downloaded the latest version and stuck it on a flash drive. Much more responsive than Fedora or Ubuntu on his netbook. The only problem is that it is beta and needs a lot of work. For instance, it picks up WPA networks, but doesn't allow for usernames on enterprise networks, only password (more like what you'd find at home). Some of the software is still a bit buggy, but overall it looks to be a great project.
If only Google dropped their cash/engineering expertise to help with Moblin instead of forking Chrome OS (not to be confused with the Chrome Webbrowser).
Intel has never been interested in selling software. They don't care as long as "Intel Inside" sells. Intel writes a lot of drivers for new MS OS launches. They'll work with anyone interested in using Intel chips... good for them.... though, the screen shots I've seen of Moblin looks nice. Google is known for software that work. Not particular pretty, but functional. "Never let an engineer design an UI", and google is full of engineers.
Oh noes, they've been keeping this from the moblin team forever and then someone goes and talks to Engadget. They're gonna be mighty pissed now, I suspect. THERE WAS A REASON YOU SHOULDN'T TELL THEM!
The Chrome OS logo was making me think about how design trends come and go.. like all of the sunbursty flowery stuff from the 70s for example. The ultra-glossy 'lickable' reflective 3D images that are so in vogue these days (and Apple in particular is fond of) are going to look SO dated in 20 years.
I think that's the point. They're supposed to look dated in 20 years; they're not designed to promote products that we'll be using in 20 years.
Anyway, you're a systems engineer, leave the design to the people with talent. They know what they're doing mostly
@redcard
sir, i applaud your comment.....
just how i dont tell my mechanic how to fix my car
a SystemS Engineer can't tell a designer how to do its job ....
Appeal to people's desire for shininess
or
Do something REALLY useful...
No doubt about it, ENGINEERS RULE!
You are right, UnixSystemsEngineer. Those ultra-glossy 'lickable' reflective 3D images are already redundant. If one of my designers will come up with this kind of approach, s/he will be fired. A logo must reflect the company / product not a trend, and that is why i do not like the Chrome logo. it's so... nothing. It feels cheap, looks cheap, and says absolutely nothing about the product. I mean - I get it - it has a light core, is expandable, and in Google colours, ok what else is new...
http://www.ff2d.com/wp-content/gallery/onecomics/Google-Sfida-Microsoft-con-Chrome.jpg
Maybe Mobin has been merged with Chrome OS?
I personally don't think this is possible...
They plainly haven't merged the projects yet, but it would make as much sense as any other Linux distribution as a starting point for a fork. They've already got the boot times.
This is interesting but I think Chrome OS would be better off paired with a cheaper ARM processor.
If Google can join up with ARM and create an ultra cheap small netbook and brand it something like "Google Internet Minicomputer" and then sell it for 100 dollars it would give people cheap as peanuts fast internet access so they can send their emails and check their facebook statuses which is all the majority of people do on their computers.
100 dollar netbook that boots up in 5 to 10 seconds and lets you get access to your facebook and twitter at every Walmart is the key.
After all if most people can check their emails and facebook status for 100 dollars its going to be hard convincing them to splurge for a more expensive set up or trying to explain to them the advantages Windows 7 has when none of those are relevant to your average user.
re: ARM proc...
Why do you think Intel is all over it? ;)
Welp, chock up another victory for Intel. Competition? Ha.
I have no opinion!!!
+1. More pre and iphone articles please.
I know it's been mentioned, but where does Moblin fit into this? And didn't Nokia, who has Maemo and Symbian, just announce "something" with Intel, who has Moblin, not too long ago?
This announcement is... confusing.
Intel wants to sell hardware, and they've been developing Moblin just to have something on their hardware. If someone else wants to do that job for them, they're more than happy; if different companies want to do it and make competiting systems, they're probably doing big wide dollar grins right now. Competition makes the OS' used better, and cruses out the bad ones (or the ones with less money), and in the end Intel profits.
That logo thing is cool.
Moblin is something Intel can give to partners who will buy chips and build systems, Chrome OS has nothing to do with it.
Chrome OS will run on intel chips just like every other OS (All Linux flavours, Windows, Mac OS, BeOS, OS2 etc)
If Moblin isn't worried about Windows or Mac OS why should it be worried about Chrome OS or me talking about it like it's a person ?
I am shore this has been pointed out but Chrome OS is Vaporware why did Google announce something like this so early i mean it has Nuvi phone written all over it. I mean when it Google could have announced this in May of 2010 and released in September instead they announce a year in advance,
Because, if I'm correct, the consumer/non-beta/public beta version is only going to be released then. Before, there is no doubt going to be leaks, closed betas and internal betas.
Just my 2 cents.
Does anyone else find it disconcerting that its logo looks like a robotic camera eye?
We need to decide once and for all, is it a robot eye, a pokemon ball, or a simon says?
Definitely Poké Ball.
Sounds like profiteering to me. Providing weapons to opposing sides.
"The two have apparently also worked together (and are potentially still working together) on portions of Chrome OS"
How did that work exactly?
Google: "Will you guys supply us chips for our new linux distro"?
Intel: "Um, sure"
Intel also does software, often setting standards and giving code samples on which others build, and making a compiler that has some fame, odd eh.
http://software.intel.com/en-us/
I have one word for why you didn't see Intel listed as a Business Partner: Microsoft
Intel will play this one close to the vest. I'm sure they are playing down their involvement with GOOGLE, just the way they did when IBM was their big OS2 partner and Microsoft was the small O/S company.
Regardless, we're winners in the end.
I don't know if ChromeOS will do much on MS' stronghold on netbooks. Linux tried, almost succeeded, but got trounced by XP. With Windows 7 running fairly well on current netbook hardware, consumers will always pick something that they are more familiar with. The hardware are improving (faster processor, better GPU, faster SSD, etc), so any advantages of ChromeOS might be overshadowed by Windows.
Maybe Google should truly trim ChromeOS down, and design it to be an instant-on OS. How's that for an idea. The OS will get more exposure as users will be more than likely to use it first than waiting for Windows to boot.
Thats pretty much exactly what it is....
"On and surfing the net in seconds"
*sighs*
Apple uses also have a hard time wrapping their head around large corp entities. The simple fact is that Intel has teams working with Dell, Apple, Toshiba, Gateways to optimize drivers. There is no reason to think that Intel doesn't have a small team helping Google on COS while the work on their own implementation for Linux.
Its a shop...
This sounds like an Ubuntu type deal just to me on the surface
Random: I like that logo lol
So this is a potential "game-changing" OS thats coming out, and you pair it with an Atom...