Nokia cuts market share targets as Q2 profits plummet
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Jul 16th 2009 6:53AM
posted Jul 16th 2009 6:53AM
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Oh Thomas, Thomas....
Don't try to be stock expert, you're not.
+775000000 Euros. Growth in market share. Etc. Etc.
Somehow Mr. Ricker forgot these facts.
But it's pretty much the future that's important for invenstors.. so if the graph goes down, even though they're still profitable, the company will too.
That is true.
I'm just trying to make sure that everything is put into perspective.
And why didn't Mr. Ricker post SE results with nicely photoshopped graphics? They are much worse and released couple hours before Nokia results. Maybe because Mr. Ricker likes to beat Nokia.
It seems that these "journalists" like to beat Nokia every time they have a chance. Nokia may have problems but they do have a clear strategy (Symbian + Maemo + Qt) and frankly I don't think they deserve to be beaten so much. Once again they managed to pull out a better result than analysts expected. And so what if market share stays flat in H2, it's still fricking ~40%.
So, just so we understand each other, Thomas...
Nokia's Q1 profits were down 90% in Q1. A decrease of YoY profits in Q2 of 66% is pretty horrible but is this:
a) Better than Q1, representing a recovery trend
b) Indiciation that they should just shut up shop
Oh and how have their competitors - in all sectors of the market, smart, feature and dumb - fared?
Earnings per share were 01.5 Euros beating the average analysis estimate of 0.13. Is this:
a) A sign that things are improving for Nokia?
b) Indication that they should just shut up shop?
An analyst commented:
"Amid the doom and gloom Nokia have delivered some excellent results ... Nokia's high-tier performance continues to be the biggest concern," said CCS Insight analyst Geoff Blaber.
Is this:
a) A sign that things are improving for Nokia?
b) Indication that they should just shut up shop?
Now don't get me wrong - the N97 is a mis-step and they need to re-evaluate their strategy. The 5800 on the other hand is a monster hit and the featurephone market seems pretty solid.
I await your response.
past performance is no guarantee of future results
to say that should be in the forethought of every investor is an understatement... therefore profits down marginally less over the previous quarter are heavily overshadowed by future expectations and targets. the words "down" and "lower" don't inspire action unless its pertaining to costs and liabilities. The N97 should be a wake-up call for Nokia...when it comes to high-end phones...come hard or don't come hard at all. Nokia's "flat" (uninspiring to any investor from going long to short) market share is built upon their low-to mid level offerings along with their strong european following. As an investor I would like to see a concentration on core strengths during turbulent times like now. Nokia is slowly reminding me of the journey Motorola has taken...allowing other innovative manufacturers one-up you at every turn. And sometimes its not even that... a 3-row qwerty keyboard on your flagship? Unacceptable when kiddie texters slide out with 4 rows and your competition has 5 rows standard (HTC TP & TP2). If I look at it from an average consumer standpoint, when I hear Nokia... dumbphones and phones that play games is what immediately comes to mind. To see steady growth, I think Nokia has work to do in order to change anyone with that mindset. On the investor side, I dont see Nokia even remotely attractive to me until the $9-11 range going long. Misrepresent yourself in the sector with this netbook campaign and your stock price just might have me pull the trigger.
Time to gloat Chapelle!, your iPhone is the doom bringer
We need to get you your own show... the iChapelle show!
The iPhone is the doom-bringer. That's the best thing I've heard all day.
If your gonna rip on Paul A. Chapel , at least spell his name right XD Shame...
Nokia should buy Palm and get some decent software. There; I said it.
If the iPhone is the doom-bringer, then Android is the salvation-bringer. Nokia needs to jump on the Android bandwagon soon - before its left trailing in the smartphone market...
Or just shorten his name to iPaC, I think he would like that one more
Nokia's smartphone share stayed steady (vs Q2 2008) or actually increased 3% (vs Q1 2009).
So it's neither Apple nor Android that's "killing" Nokia.
Over the past six months Nokia stock has had a rough ride and currently it doesn't show any signs of a turnaround. The overall handset market is really weak except for smartphones, therefore Nokia is bleeding cash selling handsets to the poorer nations. The only problem is that Nokia's high-end smartphones are just not geared for the average newbie user. Symbian seems to be showing its age. It appears that Nokia will continue to lose smartphone market share for at least another year.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NOK This clearly shows the stock is currently heading in the wrong direction.
@iphonerulez
"therefore Nokia is bleeding cash selling handsets to the poorer nations"
Where are you getting this information from? Nokia made a $300 million PROFIT. Check their results - they're a cash positive company.
"It appears that Nokia will continue to lose smartphone market share for at least another year."
Where are you getting this information from? Nokia maintained market share vs. Q2 2008 and GAINED market share vs. Q1 2009.
Are you one of the Engadget writers? You're drawing conclusions without checking the facts.
Good grief, even when Paul Chapel isn't here all you can talk about is Paul Chapel.
Move on, people. Your hatred for Apple is being outplayed by your hatred for Paul Chapel.
"...Whenever Paul A. Chapel's not onscreen, all the other characters should be asking 'Where's Paul A. Chapel?'"
READ THE FULL STORY VIA THE LINK.... NOKIA FORETASTED A RISE... NOW ITS EXPECTS IT TO BE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.. ITS NOT EXPECTING TO LOSE MARKET SHARE, ITS EXPECTING IT TO BE THE SAME.
COME ON ENGADGET... I KNOW YOU LIKE TO ENCOURAGE DEBATE BUT MAKE THINGS A BIT CLEAR INSTEAD OF POSTING A PICTURE AND A SHORT DESCRIPTION THAT YOU NEW FULLY WELL THAT PEOPLE (MAINLY THE VERY LOAD iPHONE FANS) MIGHT TAKE TO TO IMPLY SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT...
THE MOBILE PHONE MARKET IS TOO DIVERS FOR ONE PLAYER TO RULE ALL...
WE HERE ARE GEEKS AND THE ORDINARY MAN AND WOMAN ON THE STREETS SEE MOBILE PHONES DIFFERENTLY TO US.
I NEVER REALLY COMMENT BUT I THOUGHT I HAD TO COMMENT ON THIS POST..
I AM NOT A NOKIA FAN, I AM A MOBILE PHONE NUT... LOVE MY E71 AND N86, HTC TOUCH HD AND MY iPHONE 3G
HEY DON'T HATE ME, HATE THE COMPANIES. TOOO MANY GOOD GOOD PHONES FOR FREE ON CONTRACT (in the UK)
Hate this bloody auto correction on my TOUCH HD
Why so butthurt, Nokia? You have profits. PROFITS. Yes, you have less profit, but you have still MADE MONEY. That's an achievement in the current times.
My THRILLER album still makes money.. big whoop!
Unlike Palm to this point. Talk about bleeding money...
Sad, I was one of those die hard Symbian fans for the last 5 years but now I'm jumping ship and getting a HTC Hero, maybe with the release of Symbian^2/3 they can pull things back.
Good man.
Without wanting to sound all 'ANDROIDFTW', I'm a G1 owner, and I've seen Android's potential first hand. Plus, having hacked my G1 and actually used Sense UI, I can tell you that it's something to look forward to for sure.
Android is the only OS that's made me feel the way that S60 made me feel when I first tried it out 5 years ago! Until the iPhone gets some multi-tasking ability I'm staying away from it, no matter how enticing it looks! Back when the N97 was first announced and people were saying N97 hardware+Android=win, I was highly doubtful, but now.... Hummm.
bolmedias
bolmedias @ Jul 16th 2009 7:05AM
Whereas I own an iPhone (which of course is ftw.. but w/e), I was pleasantly surprised when I tried out an Android device in the store the other day.. Even in it's default form it functions way better than what Nokia has come up with recently software-wise. Nokia is falling behind rapidly; iPhone OS and Android have raised the bar... and if Nokia doesn't hire some new software-geeks, they will loose more than 66%...
I was about to come and say the same thing. I bought the 5800 and enjoyed it, but it wasnever going to be around long as I really wanted the N97 but was too impatient and wanted a touch S60 phone.
I sold it and, after buying and getting bored of a Tocco Ultra and C905, I went for a G1 - a phone I've long been interested in but never gone for. Mainly because I'm not on T-Mobile.
Now that I've experienced Android, and seen what it's capable of (I haven't rooted or upgraded mine yet, but I'm seriously considering it), S60 - and consequently the N97 - mean nothing to me anymore.
Now I'm not saying Android is the sole reason that Nokia are 'suffering', but it's one of the key players showing the consumer that Nokia, while still a great brand, don't quite make the best phones anymore.
@Rob
Me and you are in the same boat, I bought the 5800 because I wanted an S60 Touch device to keep me busy until the N97 came out, but now... Android is what S60 touch should've been by this point.
Nokia has an even bigger problem than the S60 OS though: their hardware of late has been poor. The N97 would be brilliant, if it had a capacitive screen, a properly positioned space bar, and a trackball.
@Bolmedias
Tbh I think the space bar placement on the N97 is actually quite clever if you use it, also, a trackball doesn't fit in with S60 navigation.
@Imran: Regarding the trackball thing, it does the same job as a D-Pad, why not use it? I reckon that it could make S60 Smartphones easier to navigate through, especially the 5th Edition. It's the same with Android: you'd be surprised how much the trackball on the G1 helps me use it. And anyway, if you added a trackball to the N97, you could get rid of the D-Pad and make the keyboard a bit wider.
@bolmedias: I recently purchased a Samsung Omnia HD which is a S60 smartphone with a capacitive touchscreen and it's mostly ok. The only problem is when trying to play some java and flash games with tiny buttons, i'd love to have a stylus for those, but i can't because of the capacitive touchscreen. What's supposed to be so bad about resistive touchscreens anyway?
I have never tried a resistive display, so i don't know if they are the same quality or not
G makes a good point, capacitive touchscreens are all very nice, but only worth anything if the UI is optimised for them, S60 5th isn't, yet.
no, you misunderstood, the OS itself is perfectly ok for finger-only use.
The problems are Java games which have been made for S60 3rd edition and ported to 5th edition with the minimum of effort (same tiny buttons) and Flash games which were originally made for PCs with computer mice where the size of things you need to click is not important.
Otherwise i haven't had problems with tiny buttons anywhere else, except the browser if you do not zoom in.
Nokia can turn it around if they do what is technically capable at the time like the N95 was a few years ago. Take the best (by best I mean the best they have on their product line) camera available (the 8.1MP from the N82), best keyboard (E71), a capacitive screen (asian markets can learn to draw with their fingers instead of stylus), a chassis built by the same people behind the N97 (despite the fact the phone overall sucks the chassis is solid and well built), and for god sakes UPGRADE THE CPU/RAM my N95 8GB has pretty much the same combo and it was released years ago.
Anyone is suprised?
Apple are already making 40% of Nokias profits and seeling a fraction of the number of handsets.
Nokia are over.
Apple will dominate the mobile space for years to come.
None of your ignorant whining can do ANYthing to stop it.
I will enjoy watching you squirm Apple haters!
Carry on!
Paul ?
Stop suckin' Jobs' dick, Mactard.
Meh. Only in America.
The rest of the world actually has smart people.
@10min: You totally read my mind..
Nokia's smartphone market share has gone up 3% since Q1...
Nokia is still doomed. Trust Gizmodo, Apple fans and Thomas Ricker.
I didn't think I would ever say this: Chris Ziegler, please, keep posting 24/7 so we may have a slight chance against these "Nokia is doomed" guys.
And they have finally increased smartphone sales by 23%. I mean it's far from stellar - but they they have increased smartphone sales by 23%!
Not to mention the 5800 selling over 1 million per month nowadays.
As armchair CEO, I would like to say:
* Hire new designers that don't need to look out and analyse 'market trends' before they even start to design a phone - let the designers some up with something innovative and fresh without marketing getting in the way. Have a team doing this and see whether you can make a product out of it and/or use some of their (original) ideas. Nokia has always been ultra-conservative. Place usability as a high priority.
* Cut faux silver/ chrome trim emissions by 70% this financial year :)
* In a saturated market, I hope Nokia and others realise these things are fast becoming commodities. You can't expect people to get a new phone every year, IMO. Especially now. Where is a nice long-lasting phone that doesn't show premature wear after 6 months of use that gets all that needs to be done and done well? Babying phones, relying on the toss-out-and-rebuy market or relying on those that buy them as a status symbol is a bit...long-in-the-tooth. Sure they'll always exist, but maybe time to change the approach a bit in the different market segments. Make something(s) unique that enhances your brand and image or expect commodity prices.
* On the software side, the Average Joe seems to be taken by touch screens and more intuitive use. I think they need something new and fresh, but I think they know this.
* Today's hint of the day: gloss makes your phone slippery. Reflective surfaces tend to blind you in the sun.
That is all, Mr Nokia.
Armchair CEO signing off for now.
Incidentally I favour small budget phones, so I am not in the market for most of this nonsense, so what would I know :)
Good luck.
Wow, that's some irresponsible reporting!
Market share UP vs. Q1 2009.
Profit UP 600%+ vs. Q1 2009.
Smartphone market share UP vs. Q1 2009.
What are you smoking Thomas? We're in a recesssion and Nokia has rebounded nicely from a tough Q1.
Those are numbers you're talking about. Thomas can count only apples.
Maybe this ridiculous post by Thomas Ricker should be a wake up call for Engadget. Facts please.
Don't forget, this site is very anti-nokia. They try to hide it, but it still seeps through.
Personally I don't care for Nokia anymore having discovered the joys of Android.
Mr. Riker, did you actually read Nokia's press release?
- its market share has risen compared to Q1, inter alia selling about 3.7 million 5800 in three months
- it expects its market share to be roughly the same level. That would be quite an achievement considered the competition it is getting in the smartphone market with a crowd of Android phones, the iphone 3GS and the Palm Pre. You, however, make it sound like it's loosing market share at an ever increasing level
- They sold 17 million S60 devices in the three months, so that I guess these must all be 'S60diehards'?
A little less bias would be appreciated.
Stock down 15% for the day. About $9B in market cap wiped out.
Along with all these clueless engadget reporters, it must be the bias of the stupid US stockmarket against this Finnish phone company -- that still has a great market share, makes a profit, sells a ton of phones, increased it sales of smartphones etc etc -- that led to this market massacre.
/sarcasm
Yes, but they have to make ENOUGH profits to support, promote, and manufacture to keep this gig up. I am no economics expert but you can make a million profit and still be in trouble, because you cant re-invest that million into your business that takes alot more to expand and run.
Research and development expenses 2009Q2 1 458M€ 2008Q2 1 396M€
So Nokia is using more money in research and development this year than last year.
Uh... Nokia's smartphone share actually increased in Q2 to 41%.
The smartphone market is the one the iPhone competes against Nokia in.
Was there anything else?
Engadget doesn't have a "Nokia doing well" graphic ready so I'm afraid that I have to report all Nokia news in a negative light. Sorry.
Ah, I see. And there was me just thinking it was piss poor and irresponsible reporting.
personally, i like android and think it's the way to go.
the iphone to me is actually more of the same rather than a revolution, it's just shinier; more lock-in, static OS, closed source, closed everything, tight controls.
android is the real mobile revolution.
I agree. The new HTC Hero looks the most interesting phone on the market since the first iPhone.
The Hero really does look like a serious iPhone beater, as does Sense UI. I'm looking forward to it a lot.
I'm not surprised. I played around with my neighbors S60 5th Ed phone and that settled it for me: I bought an iPhone 3GS instead of the N97.
S60 is like Internet Explorer. They are both horrible relative to their competitors, but they hold the largest market share.
Wow, perfect analogy. And I'd like to add they're both on the way out.
Judging by this comment section, Nokia fanboys are much quieter and more passive aggressive than most other types. :-)
I wouldn't describe myself as a Nokia fanboy - you'll note I describe the N97 as a mis-step (mainly because it's an anachronism in the current top end market) - but I do use Nokia phones.
The issue here is that all the other companies who are aggressively entering or re-entering the high end market like Apple, Palm, HTC and others are going to eat into Nokia's bottom line and, frankly, Nokia have been ill prepared for this. I've long been a critic of Nokia's speed to market and awareness of trends and their entry into consumer smartphones has clearly been a rush job.
That said, they still make an enormous rang of excellent phones, still dominate the smart, feature and dumbphone sectors and do have a habit of pushing into the lead when they eventually do get their heads together. I expect, for example, if the touchscreen craze continues that they will release capacitive screen equipped units with top notch UIs. In the meantime the goal was obviously to establish a foothold in the market which the 5800 clearly has.
The annoying thing here is the usual ill informed, biased, sub-standard piece of journalism we've come to expect from certain members of the Engadget team. I mean it's just so predictable - we know there's a bigger market but the big N aren't going away for a long, long time and we know there are better in class phones than some of Nokia's offerings but these results represent a positive step for Nokia. They've plugged a lot of the holes, they realise the market has changed and they're taking action. It's game on now and that's got to be good for every gadget fan who wants the best toys availabel because without competition and pressure that just won't happen.
But it's easier just to pen a quick hatchet job, isn't it?
"I expect, for example, if the touchscreen craze continues that they will release capacitive screen equipped units with top notch UIs." - Mark Anderson
Touchscreens are a "craze?" Seriously?
Perhaps Nokia is making the same blunder as you: misinterpreting technological evolution as mere fads, holding back, and watching the rest of the world leave them behind. And sometimes you just can't catch up...
There's been toucscreen phones for about 7 years now. Sony Ericsson P800 was announced in september 2002, and there probably are even earlier examples that just happened to be the first I remembered. Takes abit time for craze to gather steam and tere's no way to know how long it's going to stay.
Time will tell how the popularity of touchscreen phones stays or will it be like the clamshell design, for a while very popular and a craze, these days not so much. And if clamshell dont ring a bell there was the superthin craze for a while too.
I almost bought an N97 but ironically a delay in the release date meant I bought a G1 to tide me over... now I wouldn't have an N97 for free.... I know Nokia has heavily invested in the whole Symbian thing but I think they really have to stop throwing good money after bad, S60's had it's day so unless there's something new and innovative in the works and coming VERY soon I think they should take a long hard look at Android. The specs of the N97 aren't all that bad, all (!) it needs is a more powerful processor, a capacitive screen combined with a decent OS....
I own the N97 and its truly a not so great device... Will wait for a good Android qwerty though before I get rid of it.
alright its a bit shitty device...
The two cents of an amateur analyst:
1. It's not about the hardware, its about the OS. This trend will get stronger and stronger, and in this field Symbian is the most outdated by far.
2. Want to take over smartphone market? NOT WITH A RESISTIVE TOUCHSCREEN NOKIA!!!
3. To the Nokia advocates: N97 is the response to high end smartphones, and it fails in almost every aspect that shapes today's smartphone market.
There, draw your conclusions.
Dumbo, the most outdated is SE by far. Symbian s60v5 is a pass-over OS. It will be upgraded pretty soon and will be more stunning than OSX mobile and android combined. Saw the previews already at the Nokia Tech lab, and seriously as much as I love iPhone, it'll be a failure compared to the new symbian platform.
S60 for me is the only solution for me as I crave smartphones with a high mp cam great video recording and are generally multimedia monsters, which is why I bought a samsung i8910!! nokia has been rehashing the N95 for ages now, time to get a move on don't you think?
anyway, when android starts getting the same hardware ( SE RACHAEL+OLED+FLASH+HIGH RES SCREEN+HD RECORDING) I'll heartily switch over
S60 is just horrible. I would have bought the N97 if it had either winMo or Android.
Nokia needs to look away from Symbian.
That's what happens when you provide a country with the methods to track and record every conversation made from a Nokia or Siemens cell phone. People don't like to be spied on. In Soviet Russia the citizens spy on you!!!
link please.
Plus I don't see how this is not possible with any phone to begin with.
people actually went out and bought G1's... whoaaa, thats like going out and buying a lada to take your ugly sister out on a date...
If a G1 is like taking an ugly sister out on a date, than the latest and greatest from Nokia, is like taking your obese and mentally challenged inbred cousin out on the town.
Nokia needs to get rid of Symbian, bottom line, and start producing Android driven phones.
It might not be a looker, but it's the greatest phone I've ever used.
That includes the iPhone btw.
I have a G1 it is ugly , but, its functional for the most part. I can deal with the horrible battery life, and ugly phone , plus a bad camera, but, that stuff aside, everything else is wonderful which is why I'm enjoying it.
The netbook is the only thing on the immediate horizon?!
Seriously, anyone ever hear of this thing called N900? Basically an N97 with WVGA screen and Maemo 5 instead of S60... oh, and an OMAP 3, of course. You'd think with that probably arriving sooner than the netbooks, and definitely more capable of correcting the N97 misstep, it might have been mentioned?
I really don´t understand the hype around touch devices, especially capacitive; You can´t operate it blindly and you dirty your screen operating it, I have an iPod touch and had to watch a fingerprinted movie just because I have to start it by touching the screen
Oh dear ****. I'm seriously starting to wonder if I should go somewhere else for my tech news, someone start a smart, european version of engadget please?
@Thomas Ricker, a couple of points, which are also interesting (besides the 66% profit drop):
- Nokia Ovi active users are now 46 million (Ovi Store, Maps etc.)
- smartphone sales are up 23% compared to Q1
- Nokia 5800 sold 7 million is 7 months. That's an estimated 12 million in 12 months
- sales, marketshare and smartphone marketshare all increased compared to Q1
- Ovi user numbers collected in 10 months and expected to surpass Facebook active user numbers in about 14 months time. It is also about 10x of the estimated MobileMe user numbers (started the same time).
Engadget get your facts right :
Nokia have just announced their Q2 financial report. The numbers are showing sings of recovering from the shock of the recession - their operating profit went up by almost 51% and their estimated market share increased a percent to 38%. The total number of phones they shipped was just over 103.2 million, a healthy improvement over the 93.2 million the previous quarter.
*tosses N97 on desk*
Nokia needs to lose Symbian OS. Nokia also needs to stop making phones with the same exact designs as the previous versions. They are going down with Moto. Samsung, LG, HTC, and Apple are ready to take their place.
......um, I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong here, but they are still making a profit, right? Yes, that's what I thought. Apparently we can't add up numbers around here, only fruit. Yay for impartiality Engadget....get your S$%! together!
I bought a Nokia phone last year, and it was the worst phone I've ever owned. It was EXTREMELY SLOW, the graphic menu was very low res, and the phone itself felt like a cheap piece of plastic. Never again will I own a Nokia phone. I'm sure other consumers have caught on as well.
Which one and how much did you pay for it?
I'll stick with Samsung, BlackBerry, or the IPhone. They seem to get it right every time.
Lets just hope Symbian 2 is a whole new ballgame.
Because Symbian looks and feels ancient by comparison and Nokia still charges a premium for their phones. They are only king of the hill by momentum and won't be for long if they keep things up.
This comes from just cranking out handsets , without careing about the firmware and software. Also the OVI store is horrible, its a piss poor excuse for an app store.
If I was in charge of nokia, my priorities would be not making as many handsets, and focusing more on the ones I that have been released.
Im getting rid of my E71, I love the phone but now when people call it just freezes, im sure a firmware update could fix it, but it will never happen. It took them almost a year to do 1 firmware update to fix the purple tinted camera.
On top of that, the apps are horrible, sure you can search the net and download random files for it , and its useable with opera mini, gmail, and youtube, and google maps. But thats about it.
I switched to an android phone and in 1 day I have more apps and games than I could ever put on my nokia and its useful stuff. Unlike the garbage thats on the ovi store.
Nokia is not being a serious company anymore
Ovi store is horrible?
Let me check...
Nope, piss easy - a good number of apps, carrier billing, simple download and install.
Easy enough to me.
ovi store is really horrible. I tried it first week than gave it another month tried again and I still don't see anything of interest. I have most of the apps on my phone already. the best apps for nokia are not even on the ovi store.
Yes Haytham OVI store sucks balls. I downloaded that app and it sucks balls. I used it on my 5800 and it is a POS.
i have a nokia user for the past 8 years at least. I have used E and N series. I dont think the N97 offers anything more than what the N95 offered. Its an updated and polished N95. I am also jumping off the nokia wagon. HTC hero is looking good
I had an N95, its a good phone , to bad they can't just make it with a slide out qwerty keypad and a little thinner/faster I would still be happy enough. I still admit has one of the best cell cams I have personally used, and the videos from it come out very well. You can't even tell they were shot with a cell phone.
But imagine what hardware like that could be like, if it had decent software? really nice
Wow, I'm new to endgadget, and I thought this website was incredible and unbiased. What foolishing thinking. But I guess this place got douches too that literally go out of their way to bash a company for no apparent reason on their front page news.
Nokia is just extremely out of touch in the software department with what users want/need. The hardware is fine, give those guys a raise, take the software and firmware department, plus marketing and fire them
Also that nokia beta blog? fire that whole group, they are wasting money designing stupid apps that no one uses or needs. Not 1 app from them worth while
I have had an N97 since it launched in the UK. It is truly the worst Nokia handset I've owned.. and I've owned a few firsts (7110, 7650, 7710 were all firsts of their kinds)
I've been waiting over 2 weeks for a firmware update that was made available in NAM and Asia on the 1st. In the UK, Nokia have made the new firmware available for the black handset, but not the white one..
Really.. Seriously Nokia, there is a difference between the two handsets that requires a completely DIFFERENT firmware.
This is what's wrong with Nokia. If I had to produce 100 different firmwares for one type of handset, I don't think I could expect much.. How many different firmware versions are there for the iphone 3gs? Can I count them all on one finger?
I don't understand how, for example, they can produce a handset that fails to receive SMS text messages. Why did they break this feature in this brand new handset? Even if they fixed the bugs so it worked perfectly, it would offer NOTHING more than every other S60 phone they produce? It would be like microsoft releasing a beta of Windows 7 that is horribly buggy and has next to NO new features! If symbian is this easy to get wrong, the symbian foundation should be closed and everyone go home
Nokia are pissing off customers (who've spent much cash) and failing to impress reviewers.. I've loved every Nokia I've owned up until the N97, now I would have to really consider very hard whether I'd buy another one.. Their market share needs to suffer.. Hurt them in the profit then maybe they'll try that bit harder.. or do us all a favour and pull out of the smartphone market and just make $4.99 S40 handsets and leave the "real" phones to the innovators..
And I thought I was a fanboi.. what a tragic shame
it's no doubt phone makers who are less innovative software-wise is going to lose.