WSJ: Apple going to CES 2010. Reality: Nope.

Unfortunately, it's also specious and flatly wrong. I was seated directly across from Gary, and present for the entire conversation, wherein a dozen or so other journos chatted with him and one another. When asked about the CEA's ongoing contact with Jobs, Gary joked that every once in a while Steve might even return his email -- to which we all laughed knowingly. Yep, that's our Steve. Shapiro went on to mention that Apple was a great and long-standing supporter of the efforts of the CEA, but that their only direct involvement was sending a check each year to pay their membership dues.
At no point did Gary even remotely imply that Apple would be present at a future CES -- let alone state unequivocally that Apple "will be there" in 2010. In fact, at one point, someone asked if, hypothetically, Apple did want to attend CES, whether the CEA could accommodate them. Gary said that if pressed, they might be able to come up with a small 2,000 square foot booth, but they couldn't do anything, say, Microsoft-sized on such short notice. Bottom line, though, is that if Gary had even gotten remotely close to implying Apple would be at CES, this shoddily sourced piece by Charny wouldn't have been the earliest story with the scoop nearly 24 hours after the fact -- laptops would been immediately out for reports filed from the dinner table.
Now, I'm not saying Apple won't be there. But Gary and the CEA certainly never said or implied that they would, and Charny certainly didn't cite any other sources. Maybe by "Apple plans to attend" Charny meant one of Apple's 32,000 employees would happen to be in Vegas next January. Of course, the greatest irony of this little dinner was the lively debate at the end of the evening sparked by one particular old school BusinessWeek journalist who laid claim that tech blogs like Engadget publish first and ask questions later. Right.
Update: The WSJ has unceremoniously retracted, now stating at the top of the page that "It is not clear whether Apple will attend the 2010 Consumer Electronics Show." No, I think things are very clear as of right now: unless the CEA or Jobs say otherwise, Apple is not attending CES 2010. Oh and PS, Chris Nuttall from FT, who I was also seated across from, has the transcript of the conversation.
Update 2: The WSJ has issued a second update, clarifying things (as they should have the first time). Their post now reads: "Apple has not made any plans to attend CES 2010." So there you go.
Ryan Block is editor emeritus of Engadget, and co-founder of the recently-launched gdgt.
















first! great post ryan, glad to see you still on the site.
This is the sweetest thing I've read all day. Way to call these ass clowns out.
Fight the Man!
The Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, and you expected quality journalism?
Stop feeding the troll...
Apple is going to have some kind of media event in the Spring, but it will be on their own terms, just not always the first week of January.
I've never owned an Apple product. But the first computer I used was the Apple 2c. Ah, great memories.
BTW, I see a lot of PAC hate on this site and for that, I will side with PAC. Go get em PAC.
P.S. Zune FTW.
Also... if CES is in January... what would Apple show off?
Apple already has a set schedule for new releases.
Oh, I know where Paul is. Mommy told him to go to sleep already. But tomorrow he'll be back!
!!WE WANT PAUL!!
!!!PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Ass. whoopin, Ryan.
Ryan Block, Rampaging Bitchslapper.
To: Engadget
Re: Comment system
OK, I like this blog, but I'm really tired of your comment system. Obviously this buggy system has been going on for years with nobody caring to fix it. I will help you guys. For free.
I found a bug in your comment system. If a user name contains a special character, like quotation mark, then replying to such a user does not actually post a comment under that user's comment, but posts a new comment at the end of the thread. This is evident when replying to the idiot who calls himself The "i" (note the quotations marks) -- all replies to him are posted as new comments at the end of the thread.
Please let your developers know and fix that or don't allow any user names with special characters. Simple. Oh, and while they are at it, add a feature that when a lot of people downrank somebody, that troll should not be allowed to post anymore, and all his comments should be deleted, thus cleaning up the thread. Otherwise it's really annoying!
There!
I went last year it was pretty cool they announced the pre this year at CES so it was cool now Apple should make it more interesting
@Leo
I couldn't agree more, and I'm sure just about all the other regular readers here agree.
I noticed that same bug with iEye back when that scourge was going on (these annoying commenters seem to come and go after the community down ranks them long enough) but he was clever to discover the special character bug. They're definitely being escaped improperly.
Please, for the love of all things holy (that means gadgets and computers and all-things-tech) fix this egregious issue!
"tech blogs like Engadget publish first and ask questions later. Right."
This does happen all the time with tech blogs, so many times I read on a post: "Update: we were wrong about this and this and this happened and it's not what we originally stated".
This is the problem with many blogs in my experience and opinion.
On the other hand, they're now doing better than the WSJ.
Are you saying articles on mainstream news sites aren't updated as new information comes available (cnn.com, etc)? That would be incorrect.
But a lot of tech blogs (and Engadget in particular) make it clear when they are providing rumor and speculation, not hard fact. Or when they quote someone, they are usually pulling the quote from another article that they link to.
Not to mention, it's big of them to come right out and say "we were wrong" when they make a mistake. I don't know how often WSJ or other more-or-less traditional news sources are willing to own up like that.
It is not all one-way traffic. Yes, there are many cases where blogs demonstrate higher editorial standards than traditional news outlets. But the reverse is just as often true, sadly.
No-one in the traditional media has been going on about MS getting a call from Apple regarding the Laptop Hunters ads, while the blogs have repeatedly referred to it as fact. There is a good reason the traditional outlets aren't going on about it - the only source for the story is an MS suit (hardly a disinterested party) who claims (without any evidence) to have received a call from an unknown party that HE ADMITS he does not know the identity of and ONLY HAS A HUNCH that it was Apple Legal.
Despite this, Engadget and others have reported that story at least three times, as fact, including stating without disclaimer that the caller was Apple Legal, while not mentioning once that the MS guy only had a hunch as to the other party's identity, and that there is absolutely no corroboration whatsoever of any detail of the claim. So yeah, sometimes blogs show higher standards than traditional outlets. But just as often, they do not.
WTF is emeritus? *Googles*
I was wondering the same thing. So why is Ryan posting here when he got his own site?
It's like a digital op-ed.
RIght.
Minus yet another point for print journalism, which still can't figure out why it's dying. Many more points for good journalistic practices in the blogosphere.
Michael Scrip said: "if CES is in January... what would Apple show off?"
They can always announce a dozen or two of new apps that they banned. On a serious note... Apple's display would obviously look weak compared to most other companies. How many computer models do they offer? Five? And one phone. What else?
I think he meant apple, as in the fruit. This year CES will have a dedicated fruit stand to help combat obesity.
I like it
You people going on about 'Paul' come across really retarded.
The first thing you look for when an Apple story comes up is a comment from some internet loser (no offence) called Paul?
Seriously?
...i do not want them at CES...
Sweet Engadget is going to war with the Wall Street Journal! I just hope Apple does go to CES in 2011, after Obama issues a MacBook Pro to every citizen in the US of course. That's right I heard it form VP Biden at a Chunky Cheese today when we were swimming around in the pool of plastic balls.
CES is for garbage Microshaft crap, it's a good thing Apple doesn't belong there.
I've reported that particular bug on more than on occasion. It's pretty clear that AOL doesn't give a shit as long as we keep coming back and they get their ad revenue.
So, the TABLET will be released by September 2009!!!
LOL, old media...
I work 5 years with this system, but in Phuket they don,t have a apple-store.
Only a small resealer that send my stuff to bkk.
Takes to long time,so better I fly to singapore or KL.
Its time to get one in here with all the expats here.
Vinc
Is this a retorical news article ?
Ryan Block tells us some people think Apple is going to CES, he then gives us the inside scoop that they are not going to CES.
Why don't engadget just ignore the whole thing ?
1) It heads off a lot of readers who would've (or have) submitted the WSJ article as "news"
2) It debunks a bunch of other tech blogs who already linked the WSJ article.
3) It brings Ryan back to Engadget for a guest post.
page views = $$$
Right, but back in January when Apple said it wasn't going to be at Macworld 2010, there was lots of talk that they WOULD be at CES. This is not new. You can read about it, on the Internet.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/09/source_apple_plans_to_attend_ces_in_2010.html
Someone should rewrite the comment system themselves and send the code over to Engadget. Then we will know if the negligence over the comment system is either laziness or maliciousness.
we just need to all use Ad block plus until they fix it...
aol always has and always will suck - with the exception of popularizing aim names (though aim itself is also garbage) and engadget
Apple at CES? Kinda. I attended a CES dinner the same night in Philadelphia hosted by Karen Chupka, senior vp, events and conferences for CEA. One new thing she was touting for the 2010 CES was a Tech Zone devoted strictly to iPod, iPhone and Mac accessories - serving all the third party suppliers who feed the beast. So yeah, there will be an Apple-ish presence at the show. Funny how this kind of thing can be mis-heard at the other end of a noisy dinner table (as the WSJ guy evidentally did), or not heard at all, apparently, by your man on the scene. Jonathan Takiff, Gizmo columnist, Philadelphia Daily News/McClatchy Tribune Wire.
It's weird, but it seems like Engadget HD's and Engadget Mobile's comment system works normally. You notice on here that if you click on the time and date next to the @ of each post you get the accurate comment rating. (When you click on the time and date next to Leo's post, it shows him as highest ranked with the post highlighted in blue.) On the comment system of the of the other two it always shows the accurate comment rating. Also I have never had a post that is misplaced on the other two.
But in general all three comment systems suck. Why does my password have to be a random combination of numbers and letters I can't remember!?! I have to always go to my email and confirm my comment since Firefox can't automatically remember my password either. Also on my older account I deleted my avatar and it would randomly pop up on posts three months later. COME ON ENGADGET, FIX IT ALREADY!
Whoa, after my post I tried clicking the time and date like I said and now all of the post ranking is messed up. Paul B. Chapel's post used to say lowest ranked and Leo's post used to say highest ranked. Alot of posts used to say highly ranked and now they are neutral. It's like this on all of the articles now. WTF is up Engadget?
Apple is the Blizzard of the Hardware industry. Too good to show up to CES (E3) so they have to make their own little show (Blizzcon)
Paul Chapel makes me miss the days of Flashpoint
WSJ.com has updated the article:
"Correction: It is not clear whether Apple will attend the 2010 Consumer Electronics Show. This post previously stated that Apple would attend. "
Frickin hillarious.
RAAARRR ENGADGET SMASH
...and the benz that is owns.