A complete rewrite of an OS transitioning it completely to 64 bit and allowing it to take advantage of future technologies like OpenCL is NOT a Service Pack. All of that for $30 is ridiculous. No one even brought up Apple here, troll.
On topic, after trying Windows 7 for a week or so, I think it's completely worth this price. It feels very solid for a .0 release and good luck to MS, hopefully people won't look at it like they do Vista. 7 deserves recognition.
And the same can't be said of 7 can it? I mean after all a Windows 7 ver command at the command prompt reveals it as.... 6.1.7100! (Vista lists itself as 6.0.6002).
At least Apple managed to add features while reducing the foot print of the OS. That's a worthy accomplishment. And they are only charging $29 for current 10.5 users.
Glad to see MS finally offer a family pack though - it's about time.
@virtualball: If you hadn't had the knee-jerk reaction to attack me you'd have seen that this was meant as a response to the "i", who is impossible to reply to because of the broken comment system here. That said it's not anywhere close to a rewrite of the OS, they basically just took out the code that supported 32 bit architecture to make it 64 bit only. And, yes, supporting a few small new features would be considered a service pack, especially since it's still OSX.
To Orion: Microsoft did the same thing but also totally reworked the UI to make everything much more streamlined. As an example, Home groups are probably one of the best home networking implementations I've ever seen.
Apparantly you missed the part where he explained that the message was supposed to be a reply to the "i'...
Also, Windows 7 provides a completely re-worked kernel, which is damn fast. And OS X has been 64-bit for a long ass time. So I don't know where you are getting that piece of info from...
I got high ranked for this? It worked as a reply the the "i", but since it got dislodged from his comment and his disappeared entirely... If I saw this comment as a standalone one I would have down-ranked it for being so douchy(obviously I don't consider myself to be a douche, but that's because of the intended context). There must be some major Apple haters here for this to be high ranked as a stand alone comment.
Mark, that's pretty much how it is here. If you criticise Microsoft in any way you'll get low ranked in seconds and be accused of being an Apple fanboy, even if your criticism is a reasonable one. If you criticise Apple you'll immediately be high ranked even if you say something as inane as "Apple sux".
If you want to know who it is that'll be celebrating their birthday at the Microsoft store it's the Engadget readership are fanatical when it comes to Microsoft and hold a deep resentment of Apple. Quite why they hate Apple so much I don't know. I have never used an Apple product so I really don't care what they do and don't see any reason to hate them. However, for some people it seems the very fact that Apple competes with Microsoft is enough reason to despise them and enough reason to frantically rank up any comments that criticise Apple. It's all rather sad.
@Richard: To be completely fair, I see a lot of the same in the opposite direction. Seems to be a crap shoot a lot of times which way it'll go(of course there's always the Paul Chapels and Jubei's who will always get down ranked regardless of what they say because of their annoying histories). When I saw this comment was disconnected from who I was responding to and, worse, when his comment disappeared, I was sure I'd get down ranked into oblivion, though. Strange how things work sometimes.
NO. NO its not even close to being just a service pack. Of course the fact that you said what you said in a thread about windows 7 is just so utterly ironic that i think a new word should be made up for it like utteronic.
Also as far as the down ranking goes. You THINK you see it happening the other way but it doesn’t. You think it does..... buuuuuuuuuut it doesn’t.
The dissection of the engadget readership goes like this assumedly from the information you can get looking at the polls.
About 75% of engadget readers are Mac/iPhone users but don't comment at all. 10% of the readers use apple stuff but and do comment. Leaving about 2% that are MS guys who don't comment. The rest minus 1%(the linux users) are MS shill apple haters who are extremely vocal about things they have no idea about and are wrong 99% of the time. They are the down rankers, the people who make this site almost unreadable for their ignorance.
Keep in mind that i pretty much just made all of this up, to hopefully fit in with the rest of the MENSA members here.
As far as I'm concerned (and I don't own a Mac) if it adds programs and features, they are in their right to charge a small fee for it. Service Packs are for fixing bugs. I can only think of one time where Microsoft included something new in a SP, and that was WGA so they could try to clamp down on illegal copies.
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Snow Leopard is the equivalent of a Windows Service Pack, which are free. How disgusting of Apple.
...and apparently it's impossible to reply to the "i"
A complete rewrite of an OS transitioning it completely to 64 bit and allowing it to take advantage of future technologies like OpenCL is NOT a Service Pack. All of that for $30 is ridiculous. No one even brought up Apple here, troll.
On topic, after trying Windows 7 for a week or so, I think it's completely worth this price. It feels very solid for a .0 release and good luck to MS, hopefully people won't look at it like they do Vista. 7 deserves recognition.
And the same can't be said of 7 can it? I mean after all a Windows 7 ver command at the command prompt reveals it as.... 6.1.7100! (Vista lists itself as 6.0.6002).
At least Apple managed to add features while reducing the foot print of the OS. That's a worthy accomplishment. And they are only charging $29 for current 10.5 users.
Glad to see MS finally offer a family pack though - it's about time.
@virtualball: If you hadn't had the knee-jerk reaction to attack me you'd have seen that this was meant as a response to the "i", who is impossible to reply to because of the broken comment system here. That said it's not anywhere close to a rewrite of the OS, they basically just took out the code that supported 32 bit architecture to make it 64 bit only. And, yes, supporting a few small new features would be considered a service pack, especially since it's still OSX.
To Orion: Microsoft did the same thing but also totally reworked the UI to make everything much more streamlined. As an example, Home groups are probably one of the best home networking implementations I've ever seen.
@virtualball
Apparantly you missed the part where he explained that the message was supposed to be a reply to the "i'...
Also, Windows 7 provides a completely re-worked kernel, which is damn fast. And OS X has been 64-bit for a long ass time. So I don't know where you are getting that piece of info from...
I got high ranked for this? It worked as a reply the the "i", but since it got dislodged from his comment and his disappeared entirely... If I saw this comment as a standalone one I would have down-ranked it for being so douchy(obviously I don't consider myself to be a douche, but that's because of the intended context). There must be some major Apple haters here for this to be high ranked as a stand alone comment.
Mark, that's pretty much how it is here. If you criticise Microsoft in any way you'll get low ranked in seconds and be accused of being an Apple fanboy, even if your criticism is a reasonable one. If you criticise Apple you'll immediately be high ranked even if you say something as inane as "Apple sux".
If you want to know who it is that'll be celebrating their birthday at the Microsoft store it's the Engadget readership are fanatical when it comes to Microsoft and hold a deep resentment of Apple. Quite why they hate Apple so much I don't know. I have never used an Apple product so I really don't care what they do and don't see any reason to hate them. However, for some people it seems the very fact that Apple competes with Microsoft is enough reason to despise them and enough reason to frantically rank up any comments that criticise Apple. It's all rather sad.
@Richard: To be completely fair, I see a lot of the same in the opposite direction. Seems to be a crap shoot a lot of times which way it'll go(of course there's always the Paul Chapels and Jubei's who will always get down ranked regardless of what they say because of their annoying histories). When I saw this comment was disconnected from who I was responding to and, worse, when his comment disappeared, I was sure I'd get down ranked into oblivion, though. Strange how things work sometimes.
NO. NO its not even close to being just a service pack. Of course the fact that you said what you said in a thread about windows 7 is just so utterly ironic that i think a new word should be made up for it like utteronic.
Also as far as the down ranking goes. You THINK you see it happening the other way but it doesn’t. You think it does..... buuuuuuuuuut it doesn’t.
The dissection of the engadget readership goes like this assumedly from the information you can get looking at the polls.
About 75% of engadget readers are Mac/iPhone users but don't comment at all. 10% of the readers use apple stuff but and do comment. Leaving about 2% that are MS guys who don't comment. The rest minus 1%(the linux users) are MS shill apple haters who are extremely vocal about things they have no idea about and are wrong 99% of the time. They are the down rankers, the people who make this site almost unreadable for their ignorance.
Keep in mind that i pretty much just made all of this up, to hopefully fit in with the rest of the MENSA members here.
As far as I'm concerned (and I don't own a Mac) if it adds programs and features, they are in their right to charge a small fee for it. Service Packs are for fixing bugs. I can only think of one time where Microsoft included something new in a SP, and that was WGA so they could try to clamp down on illegal copies.
@Orion
Sure, and by your logic Windows 2000 was the same as XP.
Tard.