Mac OS X 10.5.8 now available, way less than 0.1 away from Snow Leopard
Apple's just unleashed its latest 10.5 update on an unsuspecting (well, totally suspecting, actually) crowd, so go ahead and fire up Software Update and see if Cupertino's left you any 10.5.8-flavored presents under the tree. We bet you didn't expect Wednesday to be this amazingly, incredibly awesome, now, did you? Follow the break for the full changelog.
- Upgrades Safari to version 4.0.2.
- Improves the accuracy of full history search in Safari 4.
- Resolves an issue in which certain resolutions might not appear in the Display pane in System Preferences.
- Dragging an Aperture image into Automator now invokes an Aperture action instead of incorrectly invoking an iPhoto action.
- Resolves an issue that could prevent importing of large photo and movie files from digital cameras.
- Improves overall Bluetooth reliability with external devices, USB webcams and printers.
- Addresses an issue that could cause extended startup times.
- Improves iCal reliability with MobileMe Sync and CalDav.
- Addresses data reliability issues with iDisk and MobileMe.
- Improves overall reliability with AFP.
- Improves overall reliability with Managed Client.
- Improves compatibility and reliability for joining AirPort networks.
- Improves Sync Service reliability.
- Includes additional RAW image support for several third-party cameras.
- Improves compatibility with some external USB hard drives.
- Includes latest security fixes.





















Good old Apple and their updates for their applications. Only 139MB.
I guess on the plus side it does do incremental updates to the OS.
278 MB's for me. (MacPro)
They changed the image of the article.
Odd that it was exactly double for you.
He needs twice the security
does it brings Hybrid SLi on new MacBook Pro 15?
or I need to wait for Snow Leopard?
thanks
Software Update on the Mac can download only the exact files that each person needs based on certain things such as machine configuration, and installed software. That's why every machine's update is slightly different sized, and why if your really have problems doing one of the really large combo updates will help. My iMac is at 165, and my other Macs are running SNow Leopard.
ALso, what's with the title Engadget? It implies that Snow Leopard would be equivalent to 108.8.5 or something. Less should really be more, especially since Apple doesn't stop at 10.x.9 updates. Tiger stopped at 10.4.11 Given that there's about a max of 8 weeks till Snow Leopard we'll almost certainly see a 10.5.9 and possibly a 10.5.10 in October.
I'm late to the party, but mine is 278MB on my Macbook Pro. I will check on my iMac, yup 278MB too. Where did they get their 165MB or whatever you posted?
165 MB for me. MacBook white early '09. I'll update my iMac in a few weeks when I'm actually sitting at it. Last I checked VNC wasn't working quite correctly, no idea why...
@Cycomachead
Note the difference between .1 and .0.1
Sorry dude.
I've got a last gen MBP and it was 178
Includes latest security fixes....
...including, but not limited to, restricted access to harmful content from:
Dictionary.com
Mirriam Webster
Encyclopedia Britannica
Encarta
The Internet (its naughty).
I'm loggin on just to say how much that made me laugh, and that the positive rating thingy just didnt seem enough.
top marks sir :)
Don't confuse Mac OSX freedom, with iphone OS tyranny.
amen to that.
Is that the freedom to install it on third party OEM machines without violating the EULA or am I thinking of something different?
My husband only beats me in the kitchen, not the living room, so its all good!
'....its all good'
And so are you comments.. you are on a roll :)
@Mark Anderson
Do you complain about not being able to install Xbox Live dashboard on the ps3/wii as well?
Didn't think so.
Don't jump to conclusions gouken.
"If Ben Heck builds it.. they will come"
Can I complain about your really bad analogy though?
Hint: You can install OS X on hardware that's x86 ISA compliant. You can't install the PS3 OS on an Xbox because it's a completely different system. The only thing stopping you putting OS X on third party hardware is the EULA.
snap
@Mark Anderson
It's called vertical integration genius.
The fact that it runs on x86 chips nowadays is irrelevant.
Apple makes profit from selling hardware, and that limited hardware support allows them to rapidly develop and enhance the os, unlike Microsoft which has to worry about compatibility with a zillion different hardware configurations.
Sure. We cal this 'abandoning PPC architecture to move to Intel so you can claim that being able to run your competitor's OS is actually a feature and not a horrible weakness in the your own software catalogue'.
I can give you a shovel if you want to keep digging.
@ Mark
nah, the right analogy would need same architecture etc
such as installing the XBox OS on a PPC Mac. Nawww, nasty Microsoft and their EULA
what, you'd need custom drivers? Ahh, you want someone else to make everything do what you want so you can sit round eating twinkies and making lame flames?
I love these adult tantrums from pretend tech enthusiasts. If such things really interested you, you'd actually do it, yourself. I'd be near as certain that u have pirate warez, got no flames regarding those EULA's ehhhh?
You just some consumer who's read a few blogs and so knows a few keywords to bitch about your right to consume?
Thanks for jumping down the hole, the shovel was very useful for burying you.
@Cy
Sure. That's why you appear to have been buried with the low ranking spade.
Hint: Typing in reasonably well formed English will help people take you seriously although probably not as much as actually typing something that makes sense in the first place.
Did Cy just commit blogosphere suicide?
"...horrible weakness in the your own software catalogue'."
To be honest, the only weakness in "their own software catalogue" is their lack of game support, and even then it's not their fault. Soon enough you'll be telling us that Macs don't have right-click.
Just remember that Microsoft Office and Adobe Photoshop were first on a Mac, Windows was coded on a Mac, and Apple were the first comany to sucessfully market the Mouse as an input device. Instead of calling it "abandoning" PPC hardware, I call it progress.
For the dozen or so OS X users I know, running on x86 has primarily meant a hardware price drop, not the benefit of running Windows. Of those I know (including myself) that do use Windows on their Macs, it's always virtualized, and usually for software development purposes like checking IE compatibility or running Visual Studio.
OS X users that aren't involved with cross-platform development are usually happy to never run Windows. It's often why they bought the Mac.
As for being locked down, that's subjective. OSX runs perfect on certain non-Apple hardware. I've got two Hackintoshes at home, an Intel Atom "toy" and a high end C2Q desktop, both have everything working 100%, and installed from my retail Leopard disc. Deviating from hardware similar to Apple's product line can create more headache and you may lose 100% functionality (sound, wireless, etc), but it's still often workable.
For something they don't advertise as doable, offer as an option, or assist with in the production of, installing OSX on generic PC components is only slightly more difficult than installing Windows or Linux.
@Mark Anderson
Because abandoning PPC for Intel had nothing to do with the piss poor performance per watt of PPC, in a world where the vast majority of Apple's Mac sales are notebooks. Surely. Nothing.
"I can give you a shovel if you want to keep digging."
"Sure. That's why you appear to have been buried with the low ranking spade."
Your arguments have left me completely speechless. How old are you?
Ironically, some of the first Xbox 360 dev kits were a Apple G5 (I believe) because they used the PowerPC architecture similar to the Xbox. But now everything being X86 from Apple, more more fun.
@gouken
Shut up and take your beating like a man.
@fred
Fred, I have a Macbook. I know what it can and can't do and the reason Apple switched to Intel is to allow compatibility with x86 based applications. You know, like Office (not the prehistoric version you refer to) 2008 and, well.... Windows.
Microsoft pushes out bug fixes every week or two and there's no breaking news story over it. How's this any different?
It was unexpected is all.
This is Engadget, if Steve Job farts the writers will make it "BREAKING NEWS" :P
Must be a slow news day :p.
...because Apple's bug fixes are revolutionary. Where have you been?
At Darwin, HOW DARE YOU SAY APPLE HAS BUGS AT ALL!!! THEY ISBE GOD!!!
*presses caps lock again*
people complain about apple coverage on every post. how are you any different?
@sean dailey:
Unlike Engadget, I didn't put a "breaking news" tag on my post.
not really what i was getting at, but nice try anyway.
On the other hand Microsoft's updates tend not to freeze your computer so you spend five minutes watching a spinning beachball before trying to Force Quit then realising that your Mac has, in fact, crashed and won't allow you to enter other applications nor will it shut down or restart forcing you to pop the battery (thankfully I have a late 2008 unibody).
Awesome. Increased stability? LOL!
Hoorah!
Second time lucky!
Oh and, yes, I did hold down the power button for five seconds for all the bloody good that did.
@Mark Anderson:
Anyone else appreciate the irony that you can't get this "enhanced stability" update due to lack of stability in your current version AND it is an Apple product?
@Neal
The thought did cross my mind.
@Mark Anderson
What do you do to your mac? I've never had that issue on mine, ever and it's the white polycarbonate model.
I mainly try to install updates without it falling over.
Mostly they work. Mostly.
Mark Anderson - I manage a studio full of Macs, and I update all of them. They never - EVER - crash while updating. Since my sample size is many times larger than yours, I win. Aren't statistics great?
I gotta admit, reading through that "feature list" it looks like its a roll up of a number of recent updates with a few bonus patches tacked in that should have already been working anyway.
OLD - Upgrades Safari to version 4.0.2.
OLD - Improves overall Bluetooth reliability with external devices, USB webcams and printers.
OLD - Improves compatibility and reliability for joining AirPort networks.
OLD - Includes additional RAW image support for several third-party cameras.
OLD - Includes latest security fixes.
Some of the others seem old too. As for reliability with AFP and managed clients, well Apple's "it just works" does not extend to its OSX Sever which is scary flaky with big buggy holes lying all over the place unfixed.