TomTom's iPhone car kit and navigation software priced overseas
TomTom told us that its long-awaited iPhone navigation app and in-car mounting kit would be landing "this summer," and at least on our watch, summertime is quickly drawing to a close. If a pre-order listing over at Handtec is to be believed, it looks as if the outfit is exceedingly close to finally having both the software and hardware ready for shipping. The £113.85 ($194) asking price includes a suction mount for your iPhone as well as the mapping software, though there's no indication of exactly how much the app and hardware will run by themselves. Of course, until the iPhone supports multitasking, using it as a dedicated PND is still a risky move; one stray call during a pivotal moment in your travels and you can consider yourself lost. Oh, and then there's the fact that this thing has a TomTom logo on it -- if the iPhone app functions anything like the company's high-end GO 740 LIVE, we'd say you're better off asking Mr. Gas Station attendant (or buying a different brand).
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194USD...................................
I wonder how it compares to iGo My way (http://www.igomyway.com/en/), which is quite popular in Europe and where a US navi version is 80 USD... (A mount for 114 USD in the TomTom package seems excessive).
"shunting" all your calls to voice-mail sound like a pretty terrible solution to an otherwise easy to solve problem of just allowing background processing on the iphone. These types of things are EXACTLY why Apple needs to open-up background processing for 3rd party apps.
I don't understand why my far inferior 2007 Mio GPS can Bluetooth and route maps at the same time, but the iPhone can't. I know it comes back to its lack of multi-tasking but surely Apple and TomTom could have worked together to do something about it, right? Especially if it's being plugged into 12v power, battery life is not a fair excuse any more..
using the iphone for a gps is stupid at best. Although I do use it form time to time, it is only when my Garmin fails me and trys to direct me off a cliff. There is simply no point to this at all...
And STILL no info on whether it works with first-gen iPhones (since this unit supposedly has a full GPS in the mount).
$200? That's brilliant, considering you can buy an entire Garmin GPS unit for $100 that's smaller than this setup and would leave your iPhone available for calls and music playback while your navigating.
This is pointless.
Give this to the Angry German Kid.
F it, stupid password manager saved my previous comment...
Sorry Kevin.
change settings every time you get in the car to forward all calls to voicemail? this is dumb, just get a cheap Garmin. if this doesn't have traffic information support, there's really no point.
seems a bit pricey..considering it might not even fit on future iphones designs..etc
lol @ price even tomtom figured out iPhone users are suckers.
haha that made me chuckle
well said lol
NO, 200bucks is nuts. They charge you for the software and a glorified charging dock....
Its just not worth it at that price as you can pickup a 130 for 50bucks refurbished...
Oh and don't forget how much you will need to pay for new maps
Damn Paul, do you ever stop and think about being screwed by Apple and the add-on companies at all? Sure, it may do the job of mapping, but it's way overpriced and they damn well should allow background applications so the phone can still be used without interrupting.
Stop being such a lemming and realize that companies make things better when you say what you want instead of just taking whatever they give you. When you start unquestionably grabbing whatever they make and fervently fight against anyone that speaks of improvements, you make the company act worse off. This should be common sense to you.
Hell, you probably would love living in North Korea with your attitude. "Oh thank you dear leader for the gracious bowl of rice and rocks, you are too kind."
During the big release... Tom Tom claimed the dock had a loud speaker and would increase your GPS signal too. Not saying I agree with the price tag. But its a bit more than charging dock with a suction cup.
it costs more than an actual tomtom unit?
rofl. that matches with apple's own policies. they sell all their merchandise from other vendors at majorly jacked up prices. and the customer gets the "value addedness" in the form of an official apple receipt!
I think I will stick to navigons software.....
(insert your favorite satnav software) + Jailbroken iPhone + backgrounder app = one fcuking awesome iPhone.
nuff said.
(insert your favorite satnav software) + Jailbroken iPhone + backgrounder app = one fcuking voided warranty iPhone.
well fcuking said jakem
erm jaken,
you do know you can just unjailbreak it right?
@Pre-determined,
oh noes, i've just broken the warranty seal....
.....NOT!!!
"unjailbreak"? is that newspeak? i guess that makes sense what with apple's recent ingsoc-iness. seems they were right in their 1984 ad - 1984 wasn't like "1984", but 2009 is turning into "1984" indeed.
for those of us who currently wield the sledgehammer and stick to oldspeak, "unjailbreak" is simply "lockup".
doubleplusungood.
The natural state of the iPhone is to be in jail. One can get one's iPhone out of jail by jailbreaking it. Not that jailbreak is one word, and a verb. To undo the action of "jailbreaking", you "un-jailbreak", just as some previous commentors said.
It is not a case of newspeak at all, it is a case of understanding that "jailbreak" (as a one-word verb) has come to mean something, a singular process, in the tech world. It is a word that must be thought of differently than "escape" because it has a completely different (and much more focussed) meaning.
Therefore, while "lockup" might be acceptable when referring to an "escape", when referring to a "jailbreak", the undoing of that is correctly called "un-jailbreaking" because (get this) you are "un"doing the "jailbreak". Note that "lockup" is too general-purpose, whereas "un-jailbreak" correctly identifies the exact action taken.
Also, you are not locking something up - you are undoing the freeing of it. Although they look like the same thing, they are not, and anyone as literate as you ought to have sufficient grounding in grammar and language to know that, xplode.
TomTom rules. Funny how they ve figured out an iPrice.
Shouldn't the article title read, ...Is Overpriced Overseas?
I've seen stuff on handtec before way before release and way overpriced. Usually the release price is much lower, no one would pay that amount when they could get a stand alone one cheaper.
Also don't put overseas in the title the internet is a global phenomenon ;-)
Over priced and.... the advantage of having satnav on the iphone must be portability.That 'clip' ain't portable and..... why do these manufacturers insist on making mounts that don't accommodate a phone case??
I never use a case.
I wanted to love tomtom for making a turnkey solution to the navigation needs of us iPhone users, but at this stage in time, be it the fault of apple or tomtom, I don't think its going to fly.
I spend a lot of time in the car on the phone (BT HF of course!), seems like useless time if I don't do anything - this would seem just a little preventative.
@ Darren Murph
I too am concerned about this TomTom app and mount costing more than a stand-alone GPS, but this reporting is sh*t. Of course the iPhone can multitask the phone app. How ridiculous an Apple/TomTom hater are you? The TomTom app is supposed to allow you to take calls while GPS is running according to TomTom at WWDC. The cradle also has a GPS antenna built in to boost the GPS reception. The US price is not likely to be $194, but I would not be surprised at $125-150, which is similar to the Palm OS TomTom app with cradle from 3 years ago. Now there a ton of unanswered questions about this app and mount, so I think the sensible post would not pass judgment until there is an actual product. Lets talk features when the thing gets released. This post and the subsequent Apple hater comments are just absurd.
Welcome to Engadget, home of Apple-haters.
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+1
I agree with you completely. Darren Murph draws his conclusions way too fast.
If it has GPS built-in to the cradle will it work on an ipod touch?
@Hans Gruber
I don't think so. The cradle is only supposed to boost the GPS signal - I don't think it includes a GPS chip. However, if the new iPod Touch includes GPS then I see no reason why it won't work with the TomTom solution.
something like this just increases the chance of your car getting broken into and iphone stolen. A day pretty much doesnt go by where i walk by a car and see someones navi still attached to the windshield in a parking lot. Given the typical iphone owner who would fall for this tomtom kit, they will be no shortage of individuals who will inadvertently leave the car without grabbing the phone. I would be concern about heat issues here in Miami.
Surely you take your phone with you. Isn't that the whole point of a device mash-up like this? If you leave it in your car then no only are you leaving your GPS behind but also your mobile phone. Anyone that dumb probably deserves to loose their equipment, although I wish that wasn't the case.
@ Kelmon,
+1
>> "If you leave it in your car then no only are you leaving your GPS behind but also your mobile phone."
Ok... so you take your iPhone with you... but you leave the TomTom dock hooked to the windshield. The iPhone/TomTom dock is still pretty expensive to replace.
Bottom line... take any GPS/dock off the dash, and wipe of the rings. If a crook sees suction cup rings... they still might break into your car and look for a GPS you left under the seat.
@kel
Surely you take your phone with you. Anyone that dumb probably deserves to loose their equipment
ever reached for your phone and realized you left it somewhere.. possible scenario.. you left it on the charger in the car? its not the person is dumb and it does happen. the point was leaving it attached and highly visible to a windshield vs in a center console charging makes it a higher odds of it being stolen. Micheal made good points... most car theft of this type is done by individuals who see your auto on a regular basis...and thieves add you to their "to do" list. i stand by my prior post as an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Nope, that doesn't fly for me. For one thing, your average criminal who steals things from cars is not the quickest of cats and therefore I don't see them carefully studying the GPS cradle, which is usually a hunk of cheap plastic, in order to determine whether it is the TomTom iPhone cradle and therefore actually worth something. It is, of course, perfectly possible that you might leave your iPhone in your car but then I also tend to think that if it is quite literally staring you in the face then you'll probably both notice it and take it with you (particularly if you have been actively using it).
I can't speak for everyone but I can tell you right now that I would not leave my iPhone in my car when it was mounted on the windshield. If you think that you might then I guess this isn't the solution for you.
surely the Tom Tom software remembers your destination/route when you relaunch it, in case you get a phone call? and I thought you could at least take a call without interrupting the software in the background - it just pauses until the call ends?
Nope. Even in the middle of the conversation, I want it to continue giving me directions. I don't want to get lost while talking to someone and then have to drive back. If that was the case, I'd never reach the destination, because car is one of the few places I like to have most of the conversations.
Pull over to answer your phone, arrive alive?
I would like to know what the high price covers? Is their a monthly fee or is that a lifetime of use? And how bigis the install file? Sounds like a better idea to just get a dedicated GPS device if they charge anything close to that price.
ahhh... But will it blend as well as it's cousin did?
(Got to will it blend's channel on youtube if you don't know what I'm talking about)
whoops... it's should've been its I'm so sorry master engadget.... It was but a mere mishap
I dont see why you are making out like this is all apples fault, did anyone actually check how much they sell tomtom for on winmo? £89.95 with no dock or charger etc etc
Welcome to Engadget.
I'm holding up a number of fingers in your general direction...can you guess how many?
In answer to your question, I will be buying this just as soon as it is released and I can get my hands on a 3GS. The reason is very simple - I want a "do it all" device and this ticks all the boxes. I am quite certain that I can get a dedicated unit for cheaper but then that's not what I want.
I just wish that TomTom would hurry up and officially release this and the software, or at least give an idea of when that will happen. However, by virtue of the fact that this is appearing on sites to buy I tend to think that the release should be soon.
Why not just pick up an actual TomTom for £49.99.... Am I missing something here?
Got to agree with Kelmon on this one. I have the iPhone 3GS and after reading all the comments and replies on this page, including that dead-brain article, I really don't see any reason why any one would hate such deal from TomTom! Considering that the software features are awesome and the device or software aren't even out yet!
I really love how simple and clean they've made this GPS solution, and the idea of me carrying the software anywhere I go is alone worth some extra bucks. They aren't asking you to buy a fat device and hold it everywhere you go, they've worked for some time to get it all working and clean for the iPhone, that right there deserves some credits.
You people are comparing other solutions that are just a couple of bucks cheaper, with software that doesn't even work with any phone.
I'm buying the app and the hardware as soon as I read the positive reviews; price is really good for anyone. Period.
Yeah idunno. The iPhone is in a weird place where the hardware is aimed at merging into a central, do it all device but the software is not. Yeah it would be cool to have one device for everything, but to lose your nav while placing/receiving a call would be VERY lame. Plus, what if you are listening to tunes through your car stereo while using nav? Will the TBT audio prompts bellow at you over your stereo? Sounds flimsy.
I wonder if this app will have weather overlays, realtime traffic/construction updates?
FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN THE US!
Guess what.....
See that "99.00 exc VAT"
We dont pay that VAT tax......
So for the US it is more around $142.00 for both.....
Much more reasonable, me thinks.
I'm sorry, I just don't see it. I like the cradle, but sooner have a dedicated GPS unit stuck to my windshield that I can (for the most part) forget about.
Maybe one should wait and see what this is priced in the US before frothing at the mouth? Alas, frothing at the mouth is something many people here seem to have lots of desire and time for.
I'm an iPhone 3GS user. I WILL NOT be suckered into buying any GPS software for this phone. I have a GPS built into my wife's car and a standalone unit that I can transfer back and forth between my truck and my car. I'm not a fanboy either. I'm a Windows user through and through. My wife uses a Macbook because she's a teacher and her school district uses Apple. I'm not saying Apple sucks but its also not as great as some think it to be.
Do I like my iPhone? No. I love it. My wife loves hers as well as my brother and parents. (5 iPhones on 1 family plan makes it an affordable option). But I hate ATT. I was so ready for the Pre until I actually tried typing on its keyboard. And I tell you what, that is the only knock I have against the Pre after using my friend's Pre.
Anyway, back to the GPS on iPhone. Its a novel idea. I don't blame the GPS companies for jumping on the bandwagon for iPhone apps. The price IS ridiculous considering standalone GPS units are at the same price and actually now cheaper. Standalone GPS units that cost $300 a few years ago are now under $150 with the same features. I bought my iPhone to be a phone and my little itty bitty computer on the side. If I could afford it, I would just buy in-dash stero head units with built in GPS for my truck and car. That frees up my phone.
Not to mention the iPhone crashes all the time, It is just better to have a stand alone GPS unit, cheaper with more features, and bigger screen!
Until the device is released and reviewed, can you really say that for a fact? Sounds like a lot of assumption to me...
No, the Tom Tom service is not a great deal. I get navigation software just like this for free with my Pre. Now that is a good deal.
I waited, they failed, I'll stick with maps on the iphone and just buy a 80 dollar nav if need be one day.
How would this work with Iphone cases, do you have to remove the case each time you want to dock the phone in the cradle?
I just bought IGO myway on the app store and it is pretty nice. Tomtoms maps look plain color and boring so i went with someone else and am happy. It give you 2-4 routes to choose from on your route and shows you on a map each one and you select the one that looks best. It doesnt have TTS speech yet but the company assured me its coming when i emailed them. Definitely worth checking out if you dont want to pay $150 or more when tomtom comes out.
Now whats with the negative iphone comments always on here, saying iphone users are suckers? Im thinking its from people not on att or people who cannot afford one. Im not a sucker cause i have the iphone, i can afford one and enjoy all the things i can do with it for my business. I couldnt type emails on the pre because the keyboard is god awful unless you have girly fingers. I guess the iphone is like michael jordan, the best at what they do but theres always a bunch of haters. And the most funny thing is the people who come in here just to make a comment like "iphone users are sucks" its just too funny that you all have such a boring life that you take 3 minutes out of your day to make it a point to come in here and post a negative comment about a phone you dont like. Am i the only one who sees this as funny as hell? Get a life and if you dont like the iphone why come in here to post in the first place?
Its funny how you complain about people assuming things and saying "iphone users are suckers" then you BASH the Pre and say "I couldnt type emails on the pre because the keyboard is god awful unless you have girly fingers" and lets not forget "Im thinking its from people not on att or people who cannot afford one"
WOW you really got back at all of them.
in My opinion:
1.iphone sucks- I dont like being stuck in Apples ecosystem. i love the Iphone hardware just hate the way Apple and AT&T control it.
2.I just checked that IGO App on itunes...WOW that is the ugliest GPS GUI i have ever seen. its cluttered with icons and directions, great price for $80 IM SURE.. To each his own i guess.
3. On my Pre I get navigation INCLUDED with my plan with voice turn by turn directions..Thats right ITS INCLUDED WITH MY PLAN. And i have used it many times with no problems.
4.And i wont even cover the shitty 3G service AT&T has plus how much more you pay for less features then i have on my Pre.
Now back to Tom Tom topic. i just need to see how this App works in person. Maybe its what every Iphone user has been waiting for. But to me i dont see the value in paying over $100 for an app and extra receiver/cradle.
@johnny
It is certainly your choice when it comes to GPS software for your iPhone but it is worth considering what TomTom brings when deciding whether the higher price is worth it. For example, the TomTom cradle provides an external speaker that is loud enough such that you can hear the instructions over the road noise. This is something that other solutions do not do but reviews normally cite as a problem.
If this sells for more than $100 USD (in the US), it will fall flat on it's face.
It's a nice product, no doubt, but $200 or $150 for a navi app is a hard sell when you buy a stand alone GPS made by Tom Tom or Garmin for less.
navigon + backgrounder.. i have a regular tomtom unit and like navigon better.
and for the whole jailbreaking crying.. you load then double click, couldn't be much easier.
wait lets see how hard it is to remove it... Itunes, restore
wow that's was difficult.. I used to reflash my tytn 2 all the type and this is about 10 times easier.
Wow Engadget, you're so dramatic. I own a low end TomTom navigation device(130) and it works flawlessly. I'd recommend it to anyone. Especially for the price. I think the major problem here that was glossed over is the fact that there is no multi-tasking on the iPhone; unless of course the article is incorrect...
I don't think they are being dramatic at all. They and gizmodo have done reviews on Tom Tom's and generally hated them. It's just their opinions.
http://gizmodo.com/5249716/why-tomtom-sucks
You can buy a dedicated GPS for that amount. I was going to hold out for this, but not anymore. I will get a dedicated GPS
Seems like a smart idea. At least you can give your GPS to someone else and you've still got your phone. If it's all tied up with the iPhone you're out of luck if you need to lend it to someone else in your family.
Then again, any WinMo will happily support dozens of different mapping solutions with mulitasking and at a far cheaper price.
I wonder if these places have been censored in the Application....
http://www.cowdery.org.uk/rude.php
Regarding Multitasking:
You CAN do anything on the iPhone while you're on a phone call, including 3G data.
Is there a plugin I can download to completely ignore anyone who ever uses the phrase "nuff said"? Some sort of "useless forum phrases" filter...
This mount looks scary. I don't mind the bend-the-plastic-and-wedge-your-phone-in style, but with a dock connector at the bottom? So you snap the dock connector in and then bend the bejesus out of the plastic mount while part of it is connected to a circuit board on the bottom of your phone?
What could possibly go wrong?
I think the bottom is a swivel design.
Tomtom as a PND sucks! My friend bought one of these and returned it for a Garmin.
If you look for deals, you can find a good Garmin (or Tomtom if you are a fanboy) PND for less than that. Why would anyone buy this?
On top of that Navigon app for iPhone costs $69. It doesn't include the mounting hardware, but still, big difference
All I know is my decision on which Navigation App to get is quickly coming to a close with Navigons $69.99 offer until August 15th. You would think TomTom would realize this, but I guess they're just like AT&T. Announce something and say later this summer, but summer last until the end of September.
"Right on. I can't wait to buy this, assuming I get my iPhone in a couple of months"
Wait, you sit here and tell everyone how much better a device is and how it makes you life so great and nobody would question the price, but you don't even have one? Wow.
Just one little thing, you have an all in one device... let's just say that it is stolen... someone has your apps, and, your TomTom app, and you have to buy a new iPhone.
I might not go with TomTom on this one, I've got something that does Navigon at the price of £26, and will be having live traffic incorporated, such as IQ Routes, at the price of £26.
CoPilot Live 8 for iPhone.
$194? Bwaaaaahhaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha.......
I was thinking maybe $50 for the software - after all it's not as useful as a stand-alone device given that it keeps you from using the iphone for anything else at the same time. This from a guy who has owned 4 gps, many smartphones and tends to buy any interesting gadget - heck, I've thought about picking up a tom-tom just so I could have John Cleese's voice giving me directions. This is just absurd. Tom Tom might as well pack it up and walk away.
I have the Navigon app for my iphone. Works great and only costs $70.
1. It's not going to be price at that point in the US.
2. I don't want to plugin two units to the car for nav. and ipod/pandora. No A2DP still not as good as wire.
Wow, its 2009 and the iphone is just getting full gps programs and yet still cant multitask. With my pioneer hp7900bt paired with my htc touch that is over 2 yrs old running windows mobile 6, I can do voice guided tts through the car stereo with a2dp, also stream internet radio or my mp3 music collection with one of many third party media players, control the media playback through the pioneer deck because unlike the iphone, windows mobile like most other real smartphone OS's have a real bluetooth stack that support avrcp. If you want a real smartphone that can do a good job of gps and media playback do yourself a favour get android, palm pre, win mobile or symbian. Anything but iphone!
saad you're clueless and delusional if you believe that the "other software(s) dont work with any other phone(s)"
I can name you at least, at least, a dozen other GPS turn by turn voice navigation solutions that work on WinMo phones, TomTom included, and for half the price you iSuckers will be paying for when it comes to the iPhone solution.
The OP was right, even TomTom realized that iPhone users are fools who are all too willing to part with their money.
@WindowsFTW
Dear Sir,
Nobody is listening to you because you have foolishly selected the name "WindowsFTW" and therefore your opinion is going to be clearly biased. You also make statements that you can't back up, particularly because you seem to think that you are blessed with knowledge about future products that no one else is. Do you work for TomTom and know what they are going to charge for their iPhone solution? Or are you simply basing your statement on blind assumption? I'm erring on the later here.
Please have a nice day.
Regards,
Kelmon
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnnn
you poor iphone users, I've had this for years on my winmo phone, haha ;-)
WinMo sucks! Always has and M$ apparently refuses to change it... even the new WM7 is a just a stripped down version Media Center. LOL I've owned 5 WinMo devices and all of these I ended up just giving away to people. I didn't even bother trying to get some of my money back by selling them. The last phone I owned with Verizon was the Omnia... which would have been a great phone had it not been for WM6!!!
My point is that it's never about who had it first... it's about who does it better! :P Apple is obviously heading in the right direction. I only wish they could have made some sort of deal with Verizon has their network is by far superior to ATT's. Even with ATT's current upgrades to 3G, their network is still slow. ATT customers are only saying is very fast because they're not used to broadband cellular speeds. :) haha I'm dealing with it though... I got sick and tired of waiting around for Verizon to come out with something decent and even remotely comparable to the iPhone. The only phone that looks promising now is the Omnia HD which won't come to the US until next year! And even then... how many people are going to jump on the Symbian bandwagon and start developing quality apps? I give it at least another year after that until we start seeing Verizon phones/apps that give us what Apple has been giving us for quite some time.
Will WinMo give us apps like that? I think not! The iPhone OS killed WinMo 7's feature list by far and WinMo keeps getting pushed back (on par with M$ tradition). In my opinion... I've given M$ plenty of time to keep me interested and have been let down time and time again. I'm not going to throw away my money anymore. :)
the iphone has a nice design and some nice touch features. Point and end of the story.
I will buy an iphone once it supports my needs:
- open platform, its my phone, so i want to install whatever i feel like and not just what apple allows me to. and i don't want to have to jailbreak it and loose warranty. this sucks big time!
- free choice of provider, don't think it can really be legal what they are doing
- fully customisable. once again its my phone so i don't want to be limited
- multitasking. of course this would be a must for any modern phone. any other company would bring a phone like this, the world would just laugh about it... it is all about the brand
all of this will never happen, so i will never buy one.
winMo might not be the most trendy phone os, and the newly arised competition is only good as it forces ms do do something about it. i don't mind changing platform as long as i can benefit from it. with the iphone i wouldn't see one single advantage but loads of disadvantage.
it is a joke to have news messages like this, saying now tomom for iphone, wow. it is just a joke... the iphone is just not for geeks, but for wanna-be-geeks ;)
"wanna-be-geeks"? :P Wouldn't anyone with any smartphone with any OS be considered a geek just simply for having one? LOL
I agree that WM gives you greater flexibility but take a WM device on Verizon for instance... you still have to jump through hoops to get it to work the way you want it. On top of which, development for a WM device is rather difficult considering you have very few APIs available to you. Freedom on a device with limited APIs or pretty much any app imaginable (most of which you can find for free) on a locked system.... I choose the locked system but to each his own I guess.
Also... you can't argue choice of provider. Every single cellular provider out there has their own set of phones available only with that carrier. This is not an Apple or ATT exclusive. It's simply their way of reeling people in albeit questionable. That much will never change.
And finally... multitasking. Why do you think WM devices are notorious for poor battery life??? :) And yes I know there are apps out there like MagicButton that prevent WM apps from running in the background but then what's the point of having multitasking in the first place if you're just going to kill the process anyway? haha Granted it would be nice in some instances but I've honestly never had the need for multitasking on a mobile device. The only information I've wanted to transfer to another application is available with cut-n-paste which is now available on the iPhone. And since this is a "mobile device", applications are comparatively small and very quick to load. I personally would not want to sacrifice battery life for multitasking.
So in all I did NOT purchase my iPhone because it was trendy. I purchased it because I'm sick and tired of WM and their lack of imagination and ingenuity! And why is it a joke to have TomTom on the iPhone??? TomTom has been available for WM devices for quite some time! LOL Is that a joke too? The world apparently wants an all-in-one device or we wouldn't be seeing them in such great numbers. I fail to see where M$ is providing this on a working, user-friendly level. :P
If it is a good choice for you: fair enough. The iphone just doesn't work for me. I personally have a problem in the way apple tries to control its platform.
Not tomtom is a joke, but its just not newsworthy it is now available for iphone and and its treatedd like its something new. It might be for the iphone, but otherwise it is not... it has been around for years...
As for multitasking, I just like it. Battery life of my device is ok, and I do have some programs running in the background, like google maps updating my location and others.
The provider problem is one you seem to have in the US. In Europe I do not have this problem and I have the choices... I prefer buying a an unbranded phone and choosing the best provider option for me. I don't like the bundling, not iphone nor wm with any provider. And it turns out to be cheaper in the end as well...
But hey, may the best win! I guess it will not iphone nor wm. Android might take off big time...
I love choices ;)
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This article needs to be updated... Handtec clearly states on their site that this does NOT include the software (for obvious reasons). :)