i did a clean install of win7 (x64) 2 days ago, ... everything installed perfectly EXCEPT for the freaking wireless .... (atheros based 802.11g card) "unsigned verified" driver would install, but device couldnt start ... had to switch back to freaking XP
you think you're clever for pointing out his comment is "a year late," but you're glossing over the fact that Windows support of those devices was like 8 years late.
I think ethana was talking about Linux wireless support. It's been pretty streamlined for over a year. No driver disks required for pretty much all wifi devices. Mark probably found one card that wasn't supported yet (or he's read some post on a forum and never actually tried himself) and is facilitating the FUD over Linux Wireless support problems. To which I ask him, How many Wifi devices work on Windows without installing a driver? hmm? As noted above, there's at least one that won't work in Win7.
Well, in my testing, Windows 7 has worked out-of-the-box (didn't even need a trip to Windows Update) with various Intel, Broadcom and Atheros wireless cards. I dunno what the problem could be on your computer.
Or better yet, buy a wifi card that has support. You're the consumer in this equation. Don't blame Linux if you bought from a company with poor support.
Andir, did you really just suggest that I should pay to replace an existing wireless card that was installed when the box in question was running XP a few years ago?
Because that would be awesome - having to buy a new card to run my free OS.
Like I said... you're the consumer in this equation. (I'd call you a vocal opinionated consumer.) So if you really wanted it to work and you aren't willing to put in the time to make it work, then you are simply trying to place blame on some object for your laziness and you are vocally here trying to spread this ideology as if it mattered. If you truly wanted to use a free OS and experience the freedom that it provides, a small investment is a minor consolation. The least you could do was continue to use XP and if you were interested in Linux (truly interested, not just pretending in order to spread bad reports) then you can use that as a deciding factor in your next hardware upgrade requirements.
I don't understand what you are trying to prove with your question...
@Makavre Its kinda funny that you would go back to XP cause you couldent get a driver to work. Did you think of maybe just googling the problem. I love how people are like ahhhhh something doesn't work with little to no effort on my part, I'am going back to XP.
@Andir3.0: "If you truly wanted to use a free OS and experience the freedom that it provides, a small investment is a minor consolation."
That's the funniest thing I've read here all day. Roughly translated: If you want to use this free OS you need to pay.
I don't have a problem with linux, I've used it since Gutsy off and on, but it was too unstable for me to use as a main OS. In college I need reliability to make sure that I can write those last minute papers and have support for all the crappy software the professors throw at me. It was a fun challenge to figure out how to get everything to work though, but consumed a lot of my time that probably should have been spent studying :D
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@Andir
As opposed to "what do you mean it doesn't support that brand of wireless card?"
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Mark, Atheros and Broadcom Just Work now like all the other ones, so your jab is like a year late.
@ethana2
WRONG !!!!!
i did a clean install of win7 (x64) 2 days ago, ... everything installed perfectly
EXCEPT for the freaking wireless .... (atheros based 802.11g card)
"unsigned verified" driver would install, but device couldnt start ... had to switch back to freaking XP
you think you're clever for pointing out his comment is "a year late," but you're glossing over the fact that Windows support of those devices was like 8 years late.
Y halo thar Netgear?
I think ethana was talking about Linux wireless support. It's been pretty streamlined for over a year. No driver disks required for pretty much all wifi devices. Mark probably found one card that wasn't supported yet (or he's read some post on a forum and never actually tried himself) and is facilitating the FUD over Linux Wireless support problems. To which I ask him, How many Wifi devices work on Windows without installing a driver? hmm? As noted above, there's at least one that won't work in Win7.
@Makavre
Well, in my testing, Windows 7 has worked out-of-the-box (didn't even need a trip to Windows Update) with various Intel, Broadcom and Atheros wireless cards. I dunno what the problem could be on your computer.
@Andir
Nope. My Netgear card doesn't work without ndiswrapper on Ubuntu 9.04. Mind you, Compiz also hates my Radeon 9800 too.
Go figure.
So did you tell Netgear?
Or better yet, buy a wifi card that has support. You're the consumer in this equation. Don't blame Linux if you bought from a company with poor support.
Andir, did you really just suggest that I should pay to replace an existing wireless card that was installed when the box in question was running XP a few years ago?
Because that would be awesome - having to buy a new card to run my free OS.
As for the bug, yup - it's been reported.
Like I said... you're the consumer in this equation. (I'd call you a vocal opinionated consumer.) So if you really wanted it to work and you aren't willing to put in the time to make it work, then you are simply trying to place blame on some object for your laziness and you are vocally here trying to spread this ideology as if it mattered. If you truly wanted to use a free OS and experience the freedom that it provides, a small investment is a minor consolation. The least you could do was continue to use XP and if you were interested in Linux (truly interested, not just pretending in order to spread bad reports) then you can use that as a deciding factor in your next hardware upgrade requirements.
I don't understand what you are trying to prove with your question...
@Makavre
Its kinda funny that you would go back to XP cause you couldent get a driver to work. Did you think of maybe just googling the problem. I love how people are like ahhhhh something doesn't work with little to no effort on my part, I'am going back to XP.
@Andir3.0:
"If you truly wanted to use a free OS and experience the freedom that it provides, a small investment is a minor consolation."
That's the funniest thing I've read here all day.
Roughly translated: If you want to use this free OS you need to pay.
I don't have a problem with linux, I've used it since Gutsy off and on, but it was too unstable for me to use as a main OS. In college I need reliability to make sure that I can write those last minute papers and have support for all the crappy software the professors throw at me. It was a fun challenge to figure out how to get everything to work though, but consumed a lot of my time that probably should have been spent studying :D