I will upgrade my PC to 8, but I'm not spending another dime on this lemon Mac of mine. $2400 later and Im still trying to figure out what all the praise for these things are. For $1200 it would have been a nice system, but for that price, it runs absolutely no better than my PC an crashes no less. And the PC actually is fairly quicker (for $1200 less). After having this thing for a year or so, I think people back the hell out of them, because they are trying to convince themselves that they actually are getting their extra grand worth.
What are you trying to do, and what are you doing to the thing when it crashes?
I've had my Mac since November 2006 and aside from a few stray crashes, it's been rock solid. Pretty much equal with Windows XP (when the drivers aren't fucked up) and Vista. It's also been plenty fast for everything I've thrown at it, faster in some cases simply due to the environment supporting the tools I needed natively (instead of through hackish compatibility layers.)
Macs may be expensive, but I wouldn't go for cheap anything, especially PCs. Both my desktops and laptop on XP only lasted a year and a half before things slowed down to a crawl. For all it's faults (which are becoming increasingly evident with app store issues) I reckon the Apple ecosystem is well worth the admission. Especially with a student discount :-)
Amazing... You losers cry about your PC's crashing all the time. I tell you about my Mac crashing and you become all defensive and blame it on porn. The fact that someone telling their negative experience with Apple, somehow makes you directly feel insecure says alot about you. Try get a life and maybe you won't feel the need to defend a name brand, like your life depended on it.
bought a mac 3 or 4 years ago (PowerBook G4), broke 3 times (defective motherboard first time, defective mother board second time, defective wireless 3rd time). I was shocked, thankfully Apples customer service was great, but being without a 1,500 laptop weeks at a time was a huge pain.
Grammar Delinquent.. Must have been all that porn. And the fact that you even dare say you had a negative experience with Mac, angers me to know end. You obviously are a lying troll. May you burn in hell...
That was complete sarcasm for those so blinded by their loyalty to name brands that they can't see straight.
My porn comment was a joke ...sort of. computers have issues: I have had macs and PCs act all sorts of weird. A computer going awry can be aweful and I feel your pain. I would not, however, draw a line in the sand and make an unwaivering opinion about an OS because of one computer.
missionsparta: those of us who have decades more experience with Macs than you do recognize that Macs don't just crash all the time, and if yours is then there's a reason for it. Usually it's 3rd party software that does it, sometimes it's faulty hardware. So far you haven't bothered to say why it's crashing, what the circumstances were or give us any information at all except to insinuate that it crashes all the time.
Which model Mac is it? Which OS? Which software is crashing? How much RAM do you have? What is the error message you get when it crashes? Also, it's easy to say "I can build a PC for half the price that's exactly the same", but if you try to actually do it, it never works out that way.
Honestly, I have to wonder what you're trying to do with your system if it crashes. I've been a Mac user since 2004 - I'm an IT professional, and do lots of heavy lifting on all 3 of my Macs. Do you know how many times it's crashed?
7.
Yes, in nearly 5 years I've had 7 crashes. At least 2 of those were Firefox (which is just stupid to use on a Mac, IN MY OPINION).
Well Zak, I have had years more experience with PC's than you. If you had a PC and it continued to crash over and over, there's a reason for it. Usually it's 3rd party software that does it, sometimes it's faulty hardware. So far you haven't bothered to say why your PC's crashed, what the circumstances were or given us any information at all except to insinuate that PC's crash all the time.
Which model PC is it? Which OS? Which software is crashing? How much RAM do you have? What is the error message you get when it crashes? Also, it's easy to say "Mac's never crash", but if you try to actually use on, it often does.
Seriously? You think being a copycat constitutes a good argument? Especially since it doesn't make any sense, because I didn't mention PCs at all?
Basically what you just told me is that you're lying about the whole thing, since you can't supply any specifics. So nice try troll, go back under your bridge.
Argument? I stated that I did not like my Mac... and here you come like the Apple Superhero to defend your name-brand. I don't like my Mac because it crashed. I don't have to give you a break down of everything with it to vilify my statement. The only argument here is you calling me a liar because I own a product similar to yours and your upset I think mine is garbage. I told you I was lying? The fact that you are in here arguing with everyone that does not like their Mac or the company tells me that everything out of your mouth is a one-sided lie. Troll? hahahahha. yeah... I am troll because the Mac that Apple sold me is garbage. By your constitution, the only way to rid myself of your "troll' title, is to lie and say my Mac is a fantastic product. Well it isn't. It is a hunk of garbage. After you are done clinching your chest, drop dead, little boy.
Ive never seen a Mac OR PC crash that wasn't caused by a low level OS error (yes macs get them too), 3rd party software, or faulty hardware. Can you tell me in what way PCs crash that macs don't? or wait...they are BOTH COMPUTERS.
your argument makes absolutely no sense and missionsparta's rebuttal was totally accurate (in terms of your initial argument).
I have both a Windows computer and an iMac. I can tell you that my Win 7 computer does "hang" not crash; I have had Windows Explorer (not internet explorer, mind you) crash and die, my task bar disappears, and I have to restart. That is not a problem, as I love Win 7 otherwise. But on my Mac I have only once had a problem with Safari closing on me. Overall I just prefer to compute on my Mac, I feel it's just nicer to handle and use.
I agree with you Zak. I have been using Macs for 16+ years, and for 13 of them, a minimum of 9 hours a day (I have also been using Windows just as long - just not as much). Yes, Macs crash, but not very often. Maybe what is viewed as 'crashing' is just hanging. In that case, learn about 'force quit' Sounds to me like there is something seriously wrong if your computer is crashing this often. An average day has me running Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Bridge, Dreamweaver, iCal, Lotus Notes, Firefox, Safari, iTunes, Fetch, Quark Xpress, Excell and Word all at the same time. I really can not remember my last crash. Programs hanging? Yes, happens a couple times a month maybe.
It's funny cause missionsparta still hasn't provided the specifics as to what software was being run when it crashed. If he could provide the specifics, I wouldn't be surprised if some mac savvy person was willing to try and help troubleshoot.
I couldn't live without firefox on my mac. I have add-ons and such that are a real pleasure for browsing. Safari is nice and all, but I like the browsing experience better on firefox
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I will upgrade my PC to 8, but I'm not spending another dime on this lemon Mac of mine. $2400 later and Im still trying to figure out what all the praise for these things are. For $1200 it would have been a nice system, but for that price, it runs absolutely no better than my PC an crashes no less. And the PC actually is fairly quicker (for $1200 less). After having this thing for a year or so, I think people back the hell out of them, because they are trying to convince themselves that they actually are getting their extra grand worth.
Wow...$2400. That MUST mean quality.
Attempt to get rid of the terabytes of porn you have archived, that might do the trick. It might have herpes.
Ah...the trolls have arrived. You're right...you should have bought a $400 DELL; you would have been happier, as would the rest of the world...
What are you trying to do, and what are you doing to the thing when it crashes?
I've had my Mac since November 2006 and aside from a few stray crashes, it's been rock solid. Pretty much equal with Windows XP (when the drivers aren't fucked up) and Vista. It's also been plenty fast for everything I've thrown at it, faster in some cases simply due to the environment supporting the tools I needed natively (instead of through hackish compatibility layers.)
@Cousin Eddie: Yes, because sharing his/her personal story with a Mac is trolling. Seriously? The term trolling is being way overused.
Macs may be expensive, but I wouldn't go for cheap anything, especially PCs. Both my desktops and laptop on XP only lasted a year and a half before things slowed down to a crawl. For all it's faults (which are becoming increasingly evident with app store issues) I reckon the Apple ecosystem is well worth the admission. Especially with a student discount :-)
Amazing... You losers cry about your PC's crashing all the time. I tell you about my Mac crashing and you become all defensive and blame it on porn. The fact that someone telling their negative experience with Apple, somehow makes you directly feel insecure says alot about you. Try get a life and maybe you won't feel the need to defend a name brand, like your life depended on it.
bought a mac 3 or 4 years ago (PowerBook G4), broke 3 times (defective motherboard first time, defective mother board second time, defective wireless 3rd time). I was shocked, thankfully Apples customer service was great, but being without a 1,500 laptop weeks at a time was a huge pain.
Needless to say, I never bought a Mac again.
Grammar Delinquent..
Must have been all that porn. And the fact that you even dare say you had a negative experience with Mac, angers me to know end. You obviously are a lying troll. May you burn in hell...
That was complete sarcasm for those so blinded by their loyalty to name brands that they can't see straight.
My porn comment was a joke ...sort of. computers have issues: I have had macs and PCs act all sorts of weird. A computer going awry can be aweful and I feel your pain. I would not, however, draw a line in the sand and make an unwaivering opinion about an OS because of one computer.
missionsparta: those of us who have decades more experience with Macs than you do recognize that Macs don't just crash all the time, and if yours is then there's a reason for it. Usually it's 3rd party software that does it, sometimes it's faulty hardware. So far you haven't bothered to say why it's crashing, what the circumstances were or give us any information at all except to insinuate that it crashes all the time.
Which model Mac is it? Which OS? Which software is crashing? How much RAM do you have? What is the error message you get when it crashes? Also, it's easy to say "I can build a PC for half the price that's exactly the same", but if you try to actually do it, it never works out that way.
Honestly, I have to wonder what you're trying to do with your system if it crashes. I've been a Mac user since 2004 - I'm an IT professional, and do lots of heavy lifting on all 3 of my Macs. Do you know how many times it's crashed?
7.
Yes, in nearly 5 years I've had 7 crashes. At least 2 of those were Firefox (which is just stupid to use on a Mac, IN MY OPINION).
Well Zak,
I have had years more experience with PC's than you. If you had a PC and it continued to crash over and over, there's a reason for it. Usually it's 3rd party software that does it, sometimes it's faulty hardware. So far you haven't bothered to say why your PC's crashed, what the circumstances were or given us any information at all except to insinuate that PC's crash all the time.
Which model PC is it? Which OS? Which software is crashing? How much RAM do you have? What is the error message you get when it crashes? Also, it's easy to say "Mac's never crash", but if you try to actually use on, it often does.
Seriously? You think being a copycat constitutes a good argument? Especially since it doesn't make any sense, because I didn't mention PCs at all?
Basically what you just told me is that you're lying about the whole thing, since you can't supply any specifics. So nice try troll, go back under your bridge.
Argument? I stated that I did not like my Mac... and here you come like the Apple Superhero to defend your name-brand. I don't like my Mac because it crashed. I don't have to give you a break down of everything with it to vilify my statement. The only argument here is you calling me a liar because I own a product similar to yours and your upset I think mine is garbage. I told you I was lying? The fact that you are in here arguing with everyone that does not like their Mac or the company tells me that everything out of your mouth is a one-sided lie. Troll? hahahahha. yeah... I am troll because the Mac that Apple sold me is garbage. By your constitution, the only way to rid myself of your "troll' title, is to lie and say my Mac is a fantastic product. Well it isn't. It is a hunk of garbage. After you are done clinching your chest, drop dead, little boy.
he obviously doesnt know how to use a computer, or his money. what a douche.
Zak,
Ive never seen a Mac OR PC crash that wasn't caused by a low level OS error (yes macs get them too), 3rd party software, or faulty hardware. Can you tell me in what way PCs crash that macs don't? or wait...they are BOTH COMPUTERS.
your argument makes absolutely no sense and missionsparta's rebuttal was totally accurate (in terms of your initial argument).
I have both a Windows computer and an iMac. I can tell you that my Win 7 computer does "hang" not crash; I have had Windows Explorer (not internet explorer, mind you) crash and die, my task bar disappears, and I have to restart. That is not a problem, as I love Win 7 otherwise. But on my Mac I have only once had a problem with Safari closing on me. Overall I just prefer to compute on my Mac, I feel it's just nicer to handle and use.
I agree with you Zak. I have been using Macs for 16+ years, and for 13 of them, a minimum of 9 hours a day (I have also been using Windows just as long - just not as much). Yes, Macs crash, but not very often. Maybe what is viewed as 'crashing' is just hanging. In that case, learn about 'force quit'
Sounds to me like there is something seriously wrong if your computer is crashing this often. An average day has me running Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Bridge, Dreamweaver, iCal, Lotus Notes, Firefox, Safari, iTunes, Fetch, Quark Xpress, Excell and Word all at the same time. I really can not remember my last crash.
Programs hanging? Yes, happens a couple times a month maybe.
It's funny cause missionsparta still hasn't provided the specifics as to what software was being run when it crashed. If he could provide the specifics, I wouldn't be surprised if some mac savvy person was willing to try and help troubleshoot.
I couldn't live without firefox on my mac. I have add-ons and such that are a real pleasure for browsing. Safari is nice and all, but I like the browsing experience better on firefox