How are Macs slower? They use less power and run circles around any PC I've ever seen. Also, I've never seen a Mac blue screen of death (which I saw an article showing Windows 7 doing it within a week ago). Mac viruses are damn near unheard of. Also, upgrading prices from Leopard to Snow Leopard aren't astronomical, like the upgrade from Vista to 7 will be. If you say it's more than an upgrade you obviously don't have Vista, because I've seen both, it's an upgrade.
i love how people use Mac=NO VIRUS!!!!OMFG!!!! as a real Mac is better than PC excuse. Last times i checked, macs are still in the sub-10% market share region. No one makes viruses for macs, because not enough people uses it, especially corporates (aka, people with money and information). If Mac has a 90% market share, it would be windows=NO VIRUS!!!!OMFG!!!!
Stop calling macs slow, or PC's slow. They run on the same damn hardware. Yes, you pay more for a mac because they have metal casing and "the osx tax", but when you tear it apart it's still the same damn cpu, video card, and ram you're going to find in a pc. The only real difference is the OS, and which one is better depends on your preferences and what you use your computer for.
You're right on a Mac you don't get blue screens. What you DO get is the forever spinning pinwheel and a program crash notification if you are lucky. Anyone who claims that OSX software doesn't crash mush only be web surfing and using email. Because any honest OSX user will admit that they've had apps crash and sometimes the OS goes down too. It's no different then a windows machine.
Oh dear ! which Mac and which PC ? you are aware they have several different configerations ? And yes under the glass and aluminium and nasty white plastic Macs use exactly the same CPUs and chipsets as PCs so effectively they are PCs. Unless you think a Ford and GM are not both cars because they look slighty different.
If what you say is true, then please explain how in the 90s Macs (OS8, OS9) had less than 6% share, yet had problems with viruses. Macs (OS X) now have nearly 10% share and zero viruses.
If you think the market share of Windows now is due to merit then you're sorely ignorant son.
Yes, Macs do not have the blue screen of death; however, this is because whenever they crash (yes, I have had a Mac Pro crash on me at least 3 times in the past 6 months) they do not give you an error message with a number that you can Google. I assume that this is because Apple does not want a single error screen that people could decry in these kinds of discussions. Personally I appreciate the blue screen of death for helping you know (at least a little bit) what is wrong with your computer.
Is there any evidence of this? I am not saying I do not believe you, however I think you may be confusing virus and lack of stability (although os 8 and 9 were not terrible, they were not that great either). If you have anything that can prove what you said, it would be much appreciated.
@Ethanthekiwi They do of sorts actually, but to a much more serious level. It is not all that uncommon to see a kernel panic screen which looks like this (I promise it is a real image) http://www.ourhangout.net/archives/Kernel_Panic-1p0f.png
I am not saying one is better than the other (since everyone pointed out that Macs and PCs have the same internals) and each operating system has their own benefits.
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PC > Mac
Don't.
No, PC = MAC
Just install win 7 on a mac and you will be ok. ha!
Closer to 2.5 years, but overall a good article, nice to see something more fair and less snarky.
Ubuntu Dell > PC
If (Windows 7 PC = FAIL!) and (OS-X PC = FAIL!) then
(Fedora + PC = PASS!) or (Suse + PC = PASS!) or (Ubuntu + PC = PASS!)
endif.
@NeoJew
How are Macs slower? They use less power and run circles around any PC I've ever seen. Also, I've never seen a Mac blue screen of death (which I saw an article showing Windows 7 doing it within a week ago). Mac viruses are damn near unheard of. Also, upgrading prices from Leopard to Snow Leopard aren't astronomical, like the upgrade from Vista to 7 will be. If you say it's more than an upgrade you obviously don't have Vista, because I've seen both, it's an upgrade.
So IMO Mac > PC
@ gbirdfivezero
I didn't see a single semicolon in that whole snippet;
i love how people use Mac=NO VIRUS!!!!OMFG!!!! as a real Mac is better than PC excuse. Last times i checked, macs are still in the sub-10% market share region. No one makes viruses for macs, because not enough people uses it, especially corporates (aka, people with money and information). If Mac has a 90% market share, it would be windows=NO VIRUS!!!!OMFG!!!!
@Heimbache
You can't have seen many PCs then...
Stop calling macs slow, or PC's slow. They run on the same damn hardware. Yes, you pay more for a mac because they have metal casing and "the osx tax", but when you tear it apart it's still the same damn cpu, video card, and ram you're going to find in a pc. The only real difference is the OS, and which one is better depends on your preferences and what you use your computer for.
@Heimbachae
You're right on a Mac you don't get blue screens. What you DO get is the forever spinning pinwheel and a program crash notification if you are lucky. Anyone who claims that OSX software doesn't crash mush only be web surfing and using email. Because any honest OSX user will admit that they've had apps crash and sometimes the OS goes down too. It's no different then a windows machine.
Macs are faster than PCs
Oh dear ! which Mac and which PC ? you are aware they have several different configerations ?
And yes under the glass and aluminium and nasty white plastic Macs use exactly the same CPUs and chipsets as PCs so effectively they are PCs. Unless you think a Ford and GM are not both cars because they look slighty different.
@ icepop4who
If what you say is true, then please explain how in the 90s Macs (OS8, OS9) had less than 6% share, yet had problems with viruses. Macs (OS X) now have nearly 10% share and zero viruses.
If you think the market share of Windows now is due to merit then you're sorely ignorant son.
Yes, Macs do not have the blue screen of death; however, this is because whenever they crash (yes, I have had a Mac Pro crash on me at least 3 times in the past 6 months) they do not give you an error message with a number that you can Google. I assume that this is because Apple does not want a single error screen that people could decry in these kinds of discussions. Personally I appreciate the blue screen of death for helping you know (at least a little bit) what is wrong with your computer.
gentoo>all
@ CarmelZappa: - it's "AppleTax" - because it sounds like "Apple Macs" - I coined the phrase on Engadget ages ago. I am an hero.
I will now go and an hero myself.
You should have prepared yourself for getting a lot of emails.
You are crazy, pure lunatic. And troll. End of story
Seriously?
Faster Hardware > Slower Hardware
Macs are essentially identical to PCs in the hardware they use, sans a few small exceptions such as EFI.
A Mac with faster hardware will outperform a PC with slower hardware, and a PC with faster hardware will outperform a Mac with slower hardware.
@Fox Kenji
Is there any evidence of this? I am not saying I do not believe you, however I think you may be confusing virus and lack of stability (although os 8 and 9 were not terrible, they were not that great either). If you have anything that can prove what you said, it would be much appreciated.
@Ethanthekiwi
They do of sorts actually, but to a much more serious level. It is not all that uncommon to see a kernel panic screen which looks like this (I promise it is a real image)
http://www.ourhangout.net/archives/Kernel_Panic-1p0f.png
I am not saying one is better than the other (since everyone pointed out that Macs and PCs have the same internals) and each operating system has their own benefits.
Snow Leopard houses Boot Camp 3.0, saying hello to Windows 7.
Happily installed for 2 days.
@ Fox Kenji
Please explain the results of the pwn2own competition for the past few years?