Whether or not
Snow Leopard build 10A432 is really the ready-for-shipment "golden master," Apple's own site is giving hope to the masses that its next platform iteration is gearing up for a launch sooner rather than later.
MacRumors is reporting that a Mac Box Set containing OS X 10.6 , iLife '09, and iWork '09 popped up on Apple's online store today priced at $169 for single users and shipping within 24 hours. The page itself no longer exists, although not before Google's spiders managed to pick up on it. It's probably wishful thinking to think this is indicative of a release before its projected September launch window -- and really, at this point, that's only a couple of weeks away -- if you were gonna hope for it anyway, here's some fodder for ya.
Read - Snow Leopard box set briefly appears in Apple Online Store
Read - Google entry for now-defunct page
sweet
Ahh the Apple website... so clean and easily readable unlike other websites out there *cough* HP *cough*
My iMac needs a fresh reinstall, Leopard is becoming a bit filled with crud.
Odd, I can't remember feeling an OS X install slow down over time.
Its not so much slowing down but times when it refuses to wake up, will randomly freeze, programs will stop responding and refuse to Force Quit.
Snow Leopard truly was needed. Leopard has been great but it definitely had room to improve.
@Adderz
I am very familiar with the issue of applications failing to Force Quit and things then going screwy enough that I need to turn the power off completely. I never had these issues with previous versions of the OS X operation system. While there is a lot that I like in Leopard, there are certainly things that I don't like and I am really hoping that Snow Leopard sorts these issues out.
That happens to me too although it's not a frequent occurrence - although frequent enough to be noticeable - along with random wireless drop offs. I had hoped one of the 8 service packs would have fixed these issues by now but sadly not.
The world's most advanced OS slowing down over time? Surely you jest.
My XP installation which I heavily use several hours a day is still running like it used to 4 years ago.
@Anderson
8 Service Packs? I thought they were just about to release their 6th.
did anyone else see the image from the corner of their eye and think that it was referring to a certain snl short
One...cut a hole in a box.
two...put your junk in that box
three...make her open the box
Instead of office chair package contained bobcat. Would not buy again.
four...get junk torn off by angry bobcat
and thats your "torn-up-by-a-bob-cat-dick-in-a-box"!
Internet win!
Take out the iWork and replace it with Office and then you have something worth buying.
Office is great on Windows. It's horrible on mac though. It's slow, buggy, clunky, and Pages has an option to save as a .doc (which I use quite frequently to email school project). Personally I'm a zoho fan though.
reminds me of iTunes on Windows....
i guess mac and win just dont mix
I agree, Office is a little slow sometimes on my Mac, but I still prefer it over iWork...
How about saving even more money and going with OpenOffice or NeoOffice. It's just words and spreadsheats.
Add OpenDocument support to iWork and I'd seriously consider it.
I almost *enjoy* using Office Mac, which is not something I have ever felt I could say about Office for Windows.
I dunno - I rather like iWork. Keynote still runs rings around PowerPoint and Pages is certainly very capable of producing good looking documents more easily than Word. I haven't tried iWork 09 yet so I can't say whether Numbers has improved sufficiently but it certainly isn't as good as Excel in the last version (that's probably a serious understatement).
My primary wish, however, is that iWork becomes more compatible with MS Office so that it is easier to share documents without them becoming mangled. Still, I will note that I earned myself a crate of beer because I managed to restore a corrupted PowerPoint presentation for a colleague using Keynote that PowerPoint itself simply would not open.
Oh Snow Leopard... so shy and reclusive. Come on out to play.
Why don't Microsoft offer such deals? I mean put the OS and bundle that with a couple of MS products. Their market share is big enough for them to price such offer at a very low $50 if not less, which means more satisfied costumers and less headaches.
Also, if it is some legal issues that is stopping them, why isn't Apple being stopped by anybody? Honestly this is unfair for Microsoft's Office for Mac! And if I was a developer I would be pissed so much.
Because MS's products already sell well at their respective prices?
Because Microsoft dont sell hardware and therefore make their profit through software sales alone.
I do agree however that Microsoft need to offer their OS for $50 or less. Its time for a little progress and innovation and it will NEVER happen while people are stilling using Windows Xp or below. It means developers have to work so much harder to retain compatibility with the archaic POS that is XP and cant take advantage of any new technologies that come with the new OS.
Of course this is possible, but of course MS is scared to do it for legal reasons. There would be like 2000 lawsuits the same day. Microsoft is trying as hard as they can not to mix Office with Windows
WHUH OH
ANTI TRUST TIME
MONOPOLY ALERT
I would say that there is nothing wrong with Microsoft selling a bundle with Windows 7 and Office 2007 together for one price. I can't see where anyone could say anything about them doing so if its just a bundle of applications that you have to install yourself.
The only problem i can see would come if Microsoft integrated Office into the OS and made it part of the normal install and then didn't raise the price of Windows to account for the difference. That would be in effect using the install base of windows to push their office suite onto every purchaser and use market-share to effectively leapfrog other players in that additional market.
I mean it doesn't really apply here because they already have the top market-share in both the OS and Office Application markets. But if it were something that they have relatively no market-share in, say making Expression 3 part of Windows 7 in an attempt to gain ground in the HTML editor market I personally feel that it would be something that should be looked at as anti-competitive by virtue of taking an application that has a certain value and then giving it away for free in an attempt to gain market-share.
While giving something away for free isn't a bad thing, if people chose to download it from Microsoft for example. Using the the OS to distribute it out to everyone and then making it the default for HTML without giving the user choice in an attempt to have the program become a market-share leader would be suspect.
Was the Apple store down when they made this change?
Does anyone know if it will hackintosh on machines other than an EEE yet? ive got a macbook and a hackintosh running 10.5.7 and would like to update both. Might have to leave the hack as leopard for a while, the macbook is definitely migrating to the mountains of asia ASAP
nah, you probably won't be able to, or you'll have to wait for a new hack. I'm guessing that's a minor reason they moved the architecture from x86 to 64-bit.
Snow Leopard has been confirmed to work on non-Apple hardware. Though, since the final version isn't out yet it's hard to say what hardware will be supported. Most of the usual OS X86 sites have information and some files to help get Snow Leopard up and running as it stands now.
Hows that? Snow leopard will work on 32 bit processors (even though mine is 64 bit). I see its working on an EEE but i havnt heard of any other snow leopard hacks yet.
Snow leopard. Big Whoop, apple. Why don't you fix some of the things that are keeping OSX back in the 90's? Like, why don't you make the windows resizable by the edges and other three corners? Or dump the stupid brushed aluminum look? That was old back in 2001.
Brushed aluminum hasn't been a part of OS X since Tiger and the "not being able to be resized everywhere" allows much easier movement of windows. In the OS X system, movement of windows is needed far more often than resizing.
Brushed metal hasnt been seen since the introduction of Leopard in 2007.
Ive also hardly ever needed to resize my Windows. I simply use Expose to quickly flip in and out of my tasks, meaning i can have my Apps full screen all the time instead of needing to resize.
Leopard needs some updates, The Finder for one..but the two you mentioned certainly arent it.
Though the finder still *is* brushed aluminum. I, too, find it odd how PC and Mac culture differ. IE, nobody fullscreens OS X windows, but everyone fullscreens Windows windows. I do it too. Yet I don't like fullscreened apps, and Windows is perfectly capable of overlapping just fine.
I would hardly call OSX back in the 90's. Snow leopard is introducing a new v8 engine under the hood; Windows 7 is just emptying the boot, smashing the windows, stripping the interior, and slapping on some paint, plus at every corner you will be asked 'Are you sure?' or 'We need your permission to turn on the headlights'
Theres a big difference in how windows 7 goes fast and how snow leopard goes fast. Windows 7 is fast cause it took out all the bloat that vista introduced, so 7 is just a skinned windows xp with some extras.
I wouldn't go that far with criticizing Windows 7, especially since every time I do a software update on Leopard I am asked for a password. I prefer my Mac to any Windows machine I've used, but it's hardly perfect.
Cameron, read a bit about kernel before you puke this crap out of your ass. Sorry to say that but Win7 is a bit ahead of OSX when it comes to OS features.
@ Unix:
The Finder is plastic in 10.5, not brushed aluminum.
Also, in regards to your comment about resizing vs OS X and Windows, check out this Ars Technica article:
http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2009/01/dock-and-windows-7-taskbar.ars
Adderz:
I've also hardly ever needed to resize my Windows. I simply use Alt+Tab with Aero Peek to quickly flip in and out of my tasks, meaning i can have my Apps..err...programs full screen all the time instead of needing to resize AND without having to endure the headache of watching windows fly around my screen like a bunch of hummingbirds.
Cameron:
Yes, just like OSX is simply a skinned version of OS9 with some extras.
lrn2architecture
Hobo - For as much Apple bashing as you do, you sure are god damn ignorant about the Mac. Aero peek? NINJA PLEASE. You can get back to me when you've finally figured out how to use Expose and Spaces. Oh, and Command-Tab, since apparently you think that's a crucial ability to have.
But sure, congrats to MS for finally catching up to OS X in their usual half-assed way.
Zak:
Yes, it is good that you realize that I am an internet ninja. Trolling me is futile.
I thought maybe, just maybe, there IS more to expose than I thought. So I found myself watching this boring video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-zvRxfsOg And it works exactly the way I thought it did. Windows flying all over the screen, triggering epilepsy attacks all over the world. Very useful on the only Macbook with a justifiable price and a hueg 13" screen, isn't it? No, no it isn't.
And Command-Tab is a ripoff of a legendary Windows feature.
Can anyone see this??
I guess not, I just checked on my computer.
If you can see the 4 symbols after my question marks then that means you have an iPhone. I wrote it with an app called "Spell Number" in the apps store, I just got and it says only other iPhone user can see it...
I can see it in Firefox, but it doesn't make much sense... Are the characters supposed to make sense together?
yea... i can see it. ...and i'm using an hp laptop. so... uh... no. iPhone users probably aren't the only ones.