@Zak You know, these tactics you employ kind of remind me of the ludicrous tactics used by racists. Microsoft and Ballmer are inferior in your mind compared to Apple right? OK. Let's entertain that idea for a second. If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much? Ballmer may have been wrong about the iPhone ( i remember his ridiculous most expensive phone ever comment) , but it must really burn your side that even as they fail so utterly as you say, MS is more financially successful and influential than Apple in almost every sector of business their involved in.
I dont think they have to play catch up at all with Apple, seeing as that they arent really in competition with each other. Apple and Microsoft rarely ever are. Not in the PC business (MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM), and certainly not in the Cellphone market. It's just fanatics like you that keep harping on this imagined battle between Apple and MS.
It was a direct quote from Steve Ballmer. Is there something you didn't understand about that? Do these racists' ludicrous tactics you're referring to usually involve direct quotes like that? Speaking of which, I was wondering exactly which racists you were referring to. Could you clarify that for us please?
And yes, I know. Quoting somebody directly is ludicrous. It's much better to just make shit up, like for example saying how quoting people is a tactic used by racists. That makes much more sense. As far as whether they're in competition with each other: Right. Let me guess: They're in competition with each other when Apple has 10% of the desktop market share and MS has 90%, even though they're not directly comparable because as you said in your own words, "MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM", but they're NOT in competition with each other when Apple has the majority market share.
Sure, I see how that works. Makes perfect sense if you're a Microsoft apologist. And finally, I'd like to call your attention to this fairly damning quote of yours: "If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much?"
I might ask you the same question. Why do you consistently involve yourself by bringing anti-Apple comments into all kinds of threads on Engadget? If Apple is so insignificant compared to Microsoft (i.e. your quote here: "MS is more financially successful and influential than Apple in almost every sector of business their involved in."), why do you care? Why are you responding negatively to anything that paints Apple in a positive light?
Propagandist much? And by the way, it's spelled "they're". You're welcome.
Since you need somewhat of an explanation to what seemed an straightforward response, lets try this again.
"It was a direct quote from Steve Ballmer. Is there something you didn't understand about that?"
The problem wasnt with the quote, it was how you decided to use a two year quote to somehow imply that a trend would continue in t he future, despite Microsoft stepping WinMo 7 to the plate. What does a off collar comment to MSNBC anchor 2 years ago have to do with an update on WinMo 6.5. How is Ballmer involved in any of the development of this update? Did you see Ballmer's name mentioned anywhere in the article? Yes, that was a stupid thing of Ballmer to say. We get it. But then, you somehow parlay that into some litany on how they dont just get people, I mean consumers. What people do you mean.
" I was wondering exactly which racists you were referring to. Could you clarify that for us please?" I was referring to any racist who goes on ranting and raving about how the hated party involved is destined to fail because of (insert reason here), all the while concerning themselves with the obsession with that party by spreading as much negativity as possible. Think I'm wrong? Why didnt you decide to quote Ballmer on how he was wrong about the iPhone. ( http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/01/ballmer-maybe-the-iphone-aint-so-bad-after-all.ars) That's way more current and reflects the direction of the company, the point you were trying to make. Instead you went with an old and incomplete quote to further your agenda against anything that Apple and Microsoft "compete" in.
"Right. Let me guess: They're in competition with each other when Apple has 10% of the desktop market share and MS has 90%, even though they're not directly comparable because as you said in your own words, "MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM", but they're NOT in competition with each other when Apple has the majority market share."
Whoa, what majority market share are you talking about Willis. Allow me to disable your RDF for you: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10195697-94.html & http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10245339-37.html What that i see Zak? Apple, while having the greatest gain in their market segment, is not the market leader by a long shot. Yes, WinMo still has alot of work and ground to cover, but in no way is Apple the majority market share. Thats held by RIM and Nokia.
"Sure, I see how that works. Makes perfect sense if you're a Microsoft apologist." Though I'm sure that still means Apple's the majority market share when you're a Apple apologist.
And finally, I'd like to call your attention to this fairly damning quote of yours: "If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much? Why are you responding negatively to anything that paints Apple in a positive light?"
Damning? You can't be serious?
So, I'm in this blog, Engadget, reading about WinMo 7, minding my own business when, BAM, here goes Zak again with his "Oh, it says MS, better bash it, and be an Apple evangelist" shtick and he tries to call me out on fanboyism.
Can you believe that. Zak, let me give you a mental picture. Pot. Kettle. Black.
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@Zak
You know, these tactics you employ kind of remind me of the ludicrous tactics used by racists. Microsoft and Ballmer are inferior in your mind compared to Apple right? OK. Let's entertain that idea for a second. If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much? Ballmer may have been wrong about the iPhone ( i remember his ridiculous most expensive phone ever comment) , but it must really burn your side that even as they fail so utterly as you say, MS is more financially successful and influential than Apple in almost every sector of business their involved in.
I dont think they have to play catch up at all with Apple, seeing as that they arent really in competition with each other. Apple and Microsoft rarely ever are. Not in the PC business (MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM), and certainly not in the Cellphone market. It's just fanatics like you that keep harping on this imagined battle between Apple and MS.
It was a direct quote from Steve Ballmer. Is there something you didn't understand about that? Do these racists' ludicrous tactics you're referring to usually involve direct quotes like that? Speaking of which, I was wondering exactly which racists you were referring to. Could you clarify that for us please?
And yes, I know. Quoting somebody directly is ludicrous. It's much better to just make shit up, like for example saying how quoting people is a tactic used by racists. That makes much more sense. As far as whether they're in competition with each other: Right. Let me guess: They're in competition with each other when Apple has 10% of the desktop market share and MS has 90%, even though they're not directly comparable because as you said in your own words, "MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM", but they're NOT in competition with each other when Apple has the majority market share.
Sure, I see how that works. Makes perfect sense if you're a Microsoft apologist. And finally, I'd like to call your attention to this fairly damning quote of yours: "If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much?"
I might ask you the same question. Why do you consistently involve yourself by bringing anti-Apple comments into all kinds of threads on Engadget? If Apple is so insignificant compared to Microsoft (i.e. your quote here: "MS is more financially successful and influential than Apple in almost every sector of business their involved in."), why do you care? Why are you responding negatively to anything that paints Apple in a positive light?
Propagandist much? And by the way, it's spelled "they're". You're welcome.
Since you need somewhat of an explanation to what seemed an straightforward response, lets try this again.
"It was a direct quote from Steve Ballmer. Is there something you didn't understand about that?"
The problem wasnt with the quote, it was how you decided to use a two year quote to somehow imply that a trend would continue in t he future, despite Microsoft stepping WinMo 7 to the plate. What does a off collar comment to MSNBC anchor 2 years ago have to do with an update on WinMo 6.5. How is Ballmer involved in any of the development of this update? Did you see Ballmer's name mentioned anywhere in the article? Yes, that was a stupid thing of Ballmer to say. We get it. But then, you somehow parlay that into some litany on how they dont just get people, I mean consumers. What people do you mean.
" I was wondering exactly which racists you were referring to. Could you clarify that for us please?"
I was referring to any racist who goes on ranting and raving about how the hated party involved is destined to fail because of (insert reason here), all the while concerning themselves with the obsession with that party by spreading as much negativity as possible. Think I'm wrong? Why didnt you decide to quote Ballmer on how he was wrong about the iPhone. ( http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/01/ballmer-maybe-the-iphone-aint-so-bad-after-all.ars) That's way more current and reflects the direction of the company, the point you were trying to make. Instead you went with an old and incomplete quote to further your agenda against anything that Apple and Microsoft "compete" in.
"Right. Let me guess: They're in competition with each other when Apple has 10% of the desktop market share and MS has 90%, even though they're not directly comparable because as you said in your own words, "MS : Software Provider, Apple: OEM", but they're NOT in competition with each other when Apple has the majority market share."
Whoa, what majority market share are you talking about Willis. Allow me to disable your RDF for you:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10195697-94.html & http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10245339-37.html
What that i see Zak? Apple, while having the greatest gain in their market segment, is not the market leader by a long shot. Yes, WinMo still has alot of work and ground to cover, but in no way is Apple the majority market share. Thats held by RIM and Nokia.
"Sure, I see how that works. Makes perfect sense if you're a Microsoft apologist."
Though I'm sure that still means Apple's the majority market share when you're a Apple apologist.
And finally, I'd like to call your attention to this fairly damning quote of yours: "If they suck so much, why worry? If they are so insubstantial, why do you care? Propagandist much? Why are you responding negatively to anything that paints Apple in a positive light?"
Damning? You can't be serious?
So, I'm in this blog, Engadget, reading about WinMo 7, minding my own business when, BAM, here goes Zak again with his "Oh, it says MS, better bash it, and be an Apple evangelist" shtick and he tries to call me out on fanboyism.
Can you believe that. Zak, let me give you a mental picture. Pot. Kettle. Black.