Video: Nokia 5230 touchscreen seen lagging the competition
Ok S60 5th edition fans, here you go: another touchscreen Nokia slate to admire before it could be leaked by Eldar Murtazin. The new 5230 brings a 3.2-inch touchscreen riding HSDPA data, A-GPS, 2 megapixel camera, microSD expansion, and Bluetooth 2.0 with the promise of 33 hours of music pumped over its 3.5-mm audio jack. It will launch in two flavors in Q4: a €149 model and €259 Comes with Music version. Backside pic and video demonstrating the importance of long pink finger nails for navigating its resistive touchscreen after the break.
Note to Nokia: you really should review your marketing videos more carefully unless the severe lag / unresponsiveness seen when scrolling at 36 seconds is a feature.
Note to Nokia: you really should review your marketing videos more carefully unless the severe lag / unresponsiveness seen when scrolling at 36 seconds is a feature.
























Ignoring the possible lag for a mo (the evidence is hardly conclusive). This phone really is outrageously good value. The amount of kit you get for €149 is amazing.
It's funny how Engadget doesn't even point out how 149€ is a remarkably low price for an unsubsidised touchscreen smartphone.
Guys, THIS is why Nokia has such a high marketshare - both in regular phones and smartphones. Nokia has the economies of scale to spin off incredibly powerful phones very cheaply. Two years ago this kind of spec would have set you back 499€.
My iphone 3G lags all the time...
Which is of course why there exists a 3GS in the first place.
But engadget never mentioned in the headline of the 3G anything about lagging, so why only for nokia?
And this nokia isnt even competing with high end devices...
Why the hate engadget?
Engadget simply hates this phone because of the green Safari icon.. I agree with you, €149 is crazy cheap!
iphone commercials showed the phone doing all sorts of things at ridiculous speeds. later they were taken to court for false advertisement. i have a iphone 3g and it lags like crazy. at least here they are showing the phones true speeds.
I have played with the 3G and 3GS and they lag as well - nothing like the fake adverts Apple churn out.
So why no criticism there? Money hats perhaps?
That's why Apple has 30% of smartphone profits with 13% market share: they don't care to make cheap crap.
Sure, then something better comes along and because there's only one model and the demand drops off no carrier will subsidise it to the current degree and it dies an ignoble death.
yeah, my iPhone 3G has been MUCH slower since 3.0. Safari has also started crashing with some regularity. sometimes Safari will lock up for 10 seconds, free itself, then lock up again a few seconds later only to exit. grr.
WTF are you guys talking about cheap? This ain't cheap when one could get an iPhone 3G
for $99. No match for iPhone with 65K apps along with iTunes ecosystem. End of story!
That would be $99 plus the two year $70 a month contract which is available on precisely one network, right?
Obvious troll is obvious.
I would not call that sever lag...more like mild lag. Also, that had to be some of the worst music my ears have ever heard.
Its even not real lag. The screen has hard time to understand dragging when using your nail. Some problem in 5800. Try with finger, works every time.
What I don't like here is the thumb ring. Otherwise phone is great.
I agree, the music gives it an amateurish local business commercial feel.
no one can beat the price for that funcions
I agree, this has higher res screen than iPhone.
LG KP500 (Cookie) does come close.
However, if this thing had Wi-Fi i would be back on the Nokia bandwagon so fast.
I really do not need a 8 mega pixel camera nor blazing fast processor just a touch screen PHONE (requires 3G) with a screen reasonable enough to occasionally load a movie onto, and of course Wi-Fi to cut down those mobile internet costs.
Do nokia have a design team any more? Or were they all laid off because they have been rehashing the same crap for the past 3 years.
I considered the nokia 5800 when i was looking for a new phone but what turned me off was the lack of future support and the nasty choice of build materials.
This looks exactly the same except now i can get a cheap and nasty phone trying to imitate an upmarket smartphone in all the colours of the rainbow.
As much as i hate to admit it Samsungs many offerings are more palatable than Nokias.
Ahh..the nails!
Is this the one which Eldar from Mobile Review was telling about?
Do you have to switch off the GPS before answering a call?
Why would it have to do that? Why would any phone have to do that?
Because the lack of multitasking on the iPhone = true fail!!
I suppose they would care what Thomas thinks if they didn't outsell everybody else.
But they do so they don't.
Ah Nokia, yet another underpowered slow UI with unresponsive resistive touch screen. You've made gajillions of phones, yet you have yet to master the design of usable UI. I'm really loosing faith in Nokia. Even the ZuneHD's UI is waaaaay more usable than this.
Nokia, if you cannot design a usable touch UI, stick with buttons ala the E7x and E5x series.
2megapixel cam , and its the size of my g1 and doesnt have a slide out keyboard. It would be have to be cheap for anyone to want it. Something just to listen to music on and say you have a touch screen
Well then it's a good thing it actually is cheap.
I wonder what Thomas Ricker and all other resistive-equals-crap guys are telling us when Apple releases that tablet with resistive screen...
That price is pretty much unbeatable. And frankly, I don't give a crap if it lags a bit with that kind of value for money.
Nice phone.
Good point for the 3.5-mm audio jack, but this phone is way too fat to fit comfortably in a pocket.
Also, the 2MP camera is soo nineties... Even Apple eventually moved on with the 3GS.
It's outrageous that Nokia's promotial videos might show how their phones work in real life. Don't do that! Show us an animation where I check my location, emails and facebook updates in 4 seconds while typing a few sms's at the same time.
Isn't that patented by Apple?
Ahaha.
Still on a more serious point of view : this video is really ok but WHERE THE F*UCK IS THIS CRAP MUSIC COMING FROM ?
Please Nokia don't you pay someone to choose this music ? plus what's with the nine inch pink nails ?
Still this phone looks like a really great deal !
Hmm... same size as 5800....means that the screen are bigger than 5530...
trades the Wi-Fi functionality of its bigger brother(5530) for 3G and built-in GPS.....
5800 has everything....but i like the 5530 design.... :(
Note to Engadget: you really should review your facts before claiming that this video is from Nokia's marketing team. Unless that ignorance is a feature.
Though, totally agree with the lagging and them showcasing it.
Uh, http://www.youtube.com/user/NokiaConversations
That doesn't mean that their marketing team made the video.
The claws!!!
THE CLAWS!!!!
Looks very unprofessional for an official Nokia marketing video, assuming it is one in the first place.
It's like my 5800, with a new great firmware, and half the price!!! 149€ unsubsidized!! it's crazy!
If I didn't already had the 5800, I'd buy that.
or seeing that she was using her nails maybe that had to do something with it.
I have had an N97 for about a month, and while I was far from happy with it in the beginning,now, with all the new updates , new roms, new thems, and some hours of tweaking and twisting ,(more than one over the air update a day for the past two weeks, the last just today) it has become a real killer machine.
I also have an HTC Hero (which I managed to get a couple of weeks ago in exchange of the vey disappointing iPhone 3GS) and my beloved, old HTC touchHD, but the N97 has now become my favorite phone.
So happy in fact that I decided to exchange it with the N900 as soon as it comes out and probably , once win7 finally makes it into the new machines, get one of the new Nokia booklets instead of the Samsung N310 with which I planned to substitute my rapidly aging MSI Wind.
It seems to me that Nokia , maybe warned by the sorry fate of Sony Ericcson , mended its ways quite successfully in a remarkable short time.
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That video is obviously fron the future judging from all the crazy crap on the woman's fingers and wrist.
Moreover , the first icon on the left is the S60 icon for the FM sender, which if it still is there in the final version would make this thing even more unique in its price range.
How did the engadget gay trolls turn this into an iPhone debate (yet again)?. You don´t even own an iPhone so just shut your mouths.
btw. this nokia phone is SO bruno!!!.
Yet so damn cheap and filled with goodies :)
Engadget - AGAIN proven to show us how applefanboycrazy you are - all of you dont seem to realise what you get for that small price!
This has value written all over it! I cant wait to get one for my daughter - this is affordable! Way to go nokia!
sad sad engadget! shame on you - stop hiding you applecraze, and admit it!
Actually, the article itself makes absolutely no mention of Apple or the iphone. Other commenters were the first to draw comparisons to the iphone.
Jesus, what's with the corny music?
Again, a thick-as-a-brick plastic tank by Nokia...
You expect to get 0,5cm thin full metal phone for 149€?
That's not lag, that's Symbian kicking in high gear.