Ok S60 5th edition fans, here you go:
another touchscreen Nokia slate to admire before it could be
leaked by Eldar Murtazin. The new 5230 brings a 3.2-inch touchscreen riding HSDPA data, A-GPS, 2 megapixel camera, microSD expansion, and Bluetooth 2.0 with the promise of 33 hours of music pumped over its 3.5-mm audio jack. It will launch in two flavors in Q4: a €149 model and €259 Comes with Music version. Backside pic and video demonstrating the importance of long pink finger nails for navigating its resistive touchscreen after the break.
Note to Nokia: you really should review your marketing videos more carefully unless the severe lag / unresponsiveness seen when scrolling at 36 seconds is a feature.
posted August 25th 2009 4:47AM
I think the iPhone's touch screen is unmatched and the progress of other phones is good to see.
Said that, I do have to criticize Engadget's comments on the lagging display of the Nokia 5230. I think it is more user error than lagging hardware. While watching the video you can see the person operating it has long finger nails. If the screen is anything like the iPhone's you will know that the screen does not respond to fingernails, you have to touch it with your finger tip. I think Nokia just needs to pic male hand models to operate their touch screens to get away of any possible accidental non-responsive movement due to fingernail contact.
If you want the best....just buy an iPhone....
it's unfortunate that a phone this thick doesn't come with wi-fi, but i'm guessing these are targeted at China. Should sell like crazy. I'll wait till the 5800 drops to $200.
You're right... why not having Wifi... 3,5G, WiMax, GPS, an 8mpx camera, 3.5" capacitive screen, 36GB of rom, aliminium case... for 149 bucks ? I really reallly don't get that.
BTW : great move Nokia. You'll sell millions of those.
This phone is incredible for the price. Also, the use of 5800's design for an entry level phone means one important thing : it will be replaced very soon.
Ouch, the Nokia slide continues. Hopefully they figure out a way to pull back on the stick before they hit the ground.
I had the iPhone 3G. There was some lag. I've had the 3GS for a month now. No significant lag. I realize this Nokia is a lot cheaper than an iPhone. It shows.
Yo just don't get it do you.
Let me explain:
Your iPhone ,if you're British, cost you £185 and a £35 a month contract for 18 months if you want the standard 16GB package. This will cost you £140 on PAYG so you can use it on a £15-20 month to month contract on any Network - and if you use O2 that'll include unlimited intarwebs - you're free to bin it and move at any point with no strings attached.
So, for a phone that'll do 90% of what the iPhone will 90% as well you're going to pay about half the price.
Am I getting through to you? These are going to sell millions just like the 5800 has sold millions. If you think Nokia are 'sliding' you clearly - like a lot of people here - don't know what their strategy is.
Note to Engadget: Keep sucking palm's and apple's _______
Thomas Ricker is visiting Finland and walks up to a door marked pull.
He pushes the door and wonders why it wont open.
Chris Ziegler is on the other side laughing at him.
Sorry, but what a dumb piece Thomas Ricker. Just dumb.
Based on an honest (not edited to death) zero budget preview clip you judge this device in the headline as "lagging the competition". Yeah, like the competition never stutters. Never ever. And like all there ever is to compete for is the fluency of operation. It would have been ok if you'd just stick to criticizing Nokia for letting out such an amateurish video of a brand new phone but you decided to judge the device wholly in the headline. There's a difference.
Moreover, you imply that this IYHO POS phone could ever only appeal to Nokia fan boys ("Ok S60 5th edition fans..."). Like.. who the fudge else would even take a glance at this?
"Severe lag / unresponsiveness". Honestly... severe? You say this based an a total amateur shot (doesn't make a difference it's released in Nokia Conversations) in which a person fiddles it with FINGERNAIL for mere seconds.
I'm getting a bit pumped up I know, but it's getting quite frustrating to notice how Engadget seems to time and time again have a preset opinion about devices with a certain brand or certain technologies. For certain brands you highlight only the pros, for certain only the cons it seems.
Luckily the audience is wiser.
Is it just me or is that video purposefully 80's? So very, very 80's.
Nokia just can't get this right! I HATE YOU!
Nokia has got it right! Its an appealing phone for lower/mid segment with a lot of features that its competition is not
offering at this price. The OS is same as others like 5800 (highest selling phone after iphone 3GS), 5530.
So you will find lot of support and apps for this phone too.
Engadget has got it wrong this time, they are not doing fair comparison, which is common.
By 'not getting it right' you mean 'sell millions', right?
Clueless troll is clueless.
No, by that I mean releasing a touchscreen smartphone that actually works. All their touchphones are crap compared to the iPhone and Pre, because they have legacy S60 software pimped with some shitty touchscreen UI displayed on a legacy resistive touchscreen. It's just sad.
And that's why I hate Nokia's latest "achievements" so much; they made some great stuff back in the days, so why is it that the largest cellphone manufacturer in the world can't get this straight even the 15th (?) time? It's embarrasing.
Sure they're so bad they outsell the iPhone in every region except the US where Nokia doesn't have a presence.
See, no-one really cares that much about the iPhone's UI outside the US where the mobile phone industry is shit.
another brick phone! nokia doesnt get it, its not the specs that matters its the overall experience! and a lagging phone/OS is no way to reach that goal. If this promotional video is showing how the phone is a lagger, imagine if your using it everyday! sure you get 30 hours + of music, but maybe in reality its 15 hours for real music and 15 hours for waiting due to the laggy software!
I have had iphone 2G/3G and now 3GS, My friend have 5800 that i have played with and comparing the lag between even 2G and 5800 is huge.
On iPhone everything floats with some hacks now and then but on Nokia 5800 it is slow all over with bad lags so comparing iphone to Nokia phones is simply not gone be fair since Nokia losses by allot in my personal opinion.
I dont think S60 will ever be able to compete with iPhone OS but this is my opinion.
On the other hand i think the price of this model is very very lucrative for people not willing to pay the expensive price (lets face it iphone is expensive) for an iphone. So i can see a big market for cheap smart phones like this.
Although i wish Nokia can come out with a nice OS of their own (linux based or perhaps Android even) to give the iphone a good competition.
Nokia 5230 is a true value for money phone.What more can you expect from a $200 smartphone.It carries all the good features of 5800, just lack Wifi and TV Output.The camera is 2MP but offers QVGA 30 fps video recording. Tell me one other smartphone which can offers these many features along with 3G and GPS for $200.Check out its full review here -
http://nokia5230.com/nokia-5230-full-review/