our SAP system runs on a power5 ibm server. I got a quote to add another 8 core cpu to it. the price? US$450k. that's for one power5 series processor. IBM makes awesome servers, but their cost is ridiculous.
Same comment here. Great servers but very expensive too. We have 6 SAP Power based servers.We just bought two new p570 Power6 16 CPU servers for 950 k€ !! We're thinking about moving the app servers to Nehalem Xeon Boxes under Linux to lower TCO.
Ssergio: Maybe you are some 1st level admin, or home PC tinkerer, or otherwise you wouldn't have such fantasies.You are comparing oranges to bananas. The P570's are top of the range LPAR machines (google it). Can you move resources (memory/CPU etc) on the fly (without outage!) on a Xeon machine if your badly written SAP batch job is hogging resources? No I didn't think so. If you're thinking about going to cheapo Xeon's (tbh I suspect you were joking) then your company isn't in the size of business that needs stable (and expensive) highly available clustered LPAR AIX platforms.
BTW - The hardware isn't the most expensive part of a solution, it's always the people cost, people to administer them, and the stupid overpaid I.T. managers that (barely) run them.
Hey what are you complaining about brother. One could use GPU's for a fraction of the cost but don't even dare to mention that...look what happened to the guy above you!
mojojojo: you should've gone to an IBM business partner. They'd charge you a fraction of IBM's price and you get the exact same thing with IBM warranty.
Ssergio: I haven't been keeping up to date in x86 server equipment, but your proposition reminds me of a case I was working on about a year ago.
One of my customers was having some problems on their IBM SAN. While we were troubleshooting & fixing that up, they moved their production oracle instance from a power4 p650 (which was at least 4 yrs old and was runing an LPAR with 2 CPUs and 32GB RAM) to a 1yr old 8 core xeon Dell server with 32GB RAM on EMC disk. The dell could hardly keep up with the normal day to day load, which the customer estimated to be only about 2% that of the month end load. There was no mention of upgrading from the power4 system either.
Honza: I think you'd find the the power6 p595 being the flagship System p machine in IBM's current range - ie a whole frame with up to 64 CPUs instead of 4x 4RU modules with up to 32CPUs
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our SAP system runs on a power5 ibm server. I got a quote to add another 8 core cpu to it. the price? US$450k. that's for one power5 series processor. IBM makes awesome servers, but their cost is ridiculous.
Hi mojojojo
Same comment here. Great servers but very expensive too. We have 6 SAP Power based servers.We just bought two new p570 Power6 16 CPU servers for 950 k€ !!
We're thinking about moving the app servers to Nehalem Xeon Boxes under Linux to lower TCO.
What do you think ?
Ssergio: Maybe you are some 1st level admin, or home PC tinkerer, or otherwise you wouldn't have such fantasies.You are comparing oranges to bananas. The P570's are top of the range LPAR machines (google it). Can you move resources (memory/CPU etc) on the fly (without outage!) on a Xeon machine if your badly written SAP batch job is hogging resources? No I didn't think so. If you're thinking about going to cheapo Xeon's (tbh I suspect you were joking) then your company isn't in the size of business that needs stable (and expensive) highly available clustered LPAR AIX platforms.
BTW - The hardware isn't the most expensive part of a solution, it's always the people cost, people to administer them, and the stupid overpaid I.T. managers that (barely) run them.
Hey what are you complaining about brother. One could use GPU's for a fraction of the cost but don't even dare to mention that...look what happened to the guy above you!
mojojojo: you should've gone to an IBM business partner. They'd charge you a fraction of IBM's price and you get the exact same thing with IBM warranty.
Ssergio: I haven't been keeping up to date in x86 server equipment, but your proposition reminds me of a case I was working on about a year ago.
One of my customers was having some problems on their IBM SAN. While we were troubleshooting & fixing that up, they moved their production oracle instance from a power4 p650 (which was at least 4 yrs old and was runing an LPAR with 2 CPUs and 32GB RAM) to a 1yr old 8 core xeon Dell server with 32GB RAM on EMC disk. The dell could hardly keep up with the normal day to day load, which the customer estimated to be only about 2% that of the month end load. There was no mention of upgrading from the power4 system either.
Honza: I think you'd find the the power6 p595 being the flagship System p machine in IBM's current range - ie a whole frame with up to 64 CPUs instead of 4x 4RU modules with up to 32CPUs