Canon EOS 7D now official, coming end of September for $1,899
By Ross Miller 
posted September 1st 2009 12:13AM
posted September 1st 2009 12:13AM
Update: Canon's press release has now gone live. Price is $1,699 body-only or $1,899 with an EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM zoom lens, and target launch is set for end of September.
Read - Press release
Read - Hands-on
No surprise here. Looks like an awesome camera, minus the fact that it won't be cheap.
http://www.ihatecanon7d.tk/
18MP on an APS is just awful or so I heard.
I have a 50D, and a 5D. The 5D is a full frame sensor, 12 megapixel, the 50 D is a 2 years newer 15 megapixel. I really like the 50D but there is no denying its noisy at higher isos and lacks the same "per pixel sharpness" of the 5D.
Sensor Technology gets better over time, but this seems odd seeing as canon just dropped the number of pixels in their G series camera.
Or you can shoot RAW and tell photoshop's Camera Raw to import the actual image at 10 megapixels. Duh.
@ neoforklore
The point isn't about handling 18MP files, people dislike cameras with high pixel density because it sacrifices low-light performance and general image quality to achieve the high pixel count. More pixels, same sensor size means smaller photosites.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=19356
pricing is here.
$1699
I get the feeling 5DmkII users got f@cked.
...wait, let me check...yeah, I'm feeling pretty f@cked right now.
7D looks fantastic, but you couldn't pay me to trade my 5DmkII in for a 7D.. it's still far superior
You should have no reason to feel screwed. A full frame camera will always be better than a cropped sensor camera.
I see no problems here. I've got a 5D mkII (which still works great: www.igorbass.com), and I will be getting the 7D as a second body for when I want to do wildlife or sports photos. Great as the 5D is, the AF and fps rate are its weak points.
The 5DmkII is a 1Ds-Lite, and this is the 1D-Lite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp9WMy4ihg
Ummm...that was a funny youtube video but there is no reason I would want this over the 5dII that I have, other than the speedlight master capability. I have no need for 24p, and neither do the vast majority of people doing consumer video.
Did you buy a 21mp, full frame, "low" fps camera for birds, action, or exclusively sports? Because the 5d is for low light and landscapes and general use.
if you bought your 5d to do the things this camera was meant to do, yeah, you did get fucked.
I don't feel that 5D2 owners got screwed at all! I'd much rather have a full frame body. By the way, there's a comparison of all 3 canon DSLRVs at http://blog.planet5d.com/7z4
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Clickity buy baby.
I am very much in a surprised state because of this surprising announcement that has just surprised us all.
1080p 24p with "jello" or " jelly" video effect. I think nikon and canon know what I'm talking about. Nikon d90 and d5000 and the canon t1i. Go handheld and get the jello effect. Go tripod and get an awesome shot..remember though to use exposure lock on the Nikons or you'll get that light fade effect. So being that I demoed this camera last week..I can clearly say it has the sharpest HD video out there but of coarse the "jelly" effect is in all it's glory here. Bummer.
But aren't the Nikons way worse than the Canons?
I thought the Canon 5D Mk II and Rebel T1i did better than the "jelly" Nikons?
The jelly effect on the Nikons is definitely worse than the Canons. About double, actually. In my book the effect on the Nikons makes them almost unusable, while the Canons are usable but not ideal.
We don't know if the 7D will be affected by this yet. It does have a lot more processing power than previous DSLRs offering HD video, so we can hope.
5D is full frame...This is APS-C...just like my 40D.
I saw the price and thought....Full frame for that price?...Too good to be true.
Is this full frame? If so I am so getting this!
no :(
Aw. I guess no one would buy the 5D if they made it full frame. Still might have to get it though.
Sony just announced a new full frame camera, the A850, for only $300 more than this 1.6x APS-C body.
Should I spend the extra dough and grab a 7D instead of a T1i!?
Do you really need video that badly?
Just get the Xsi and save your self money for glass.
I would know, I have the T1i.
Yeah I really want the video. I was hesitant with the T1i cause of the lack of external Mic, and 20fps 1080.
Reason I wanna shoot video with a DSLR is just convenience. I don't wanna have to bring to school a DSLR kit... and then a camcorder.
no, get a 40D.
well, let me explain. it depends what you are using it for. The 7D looks like it will be really really good for birds and sports.
The 40D is no slouch. If this is your first DSLR and you are planning on using this for fun and stuff too, just get the 40D, master it, then move on up. The bigger body is worth the price of admission alone. If you end up not liking photography, the beefier 40D will last far longer as a general camera than the Tl1. Its cheap, one gen old, and has a great feature set. Spend the cash on lenses and you will be far happier.
However, if you've been shooting for a while and feel the 7D: ie you want the new focus system, you're sick of your viewfinder, you like to shoot birds etc etc..then by all means get it. Its a pretty good deal, and fills in the "I want to upgrade but the 5D isnt what I need" gap. You are really paying for the AF, the burst speed, and the new IS and viewfinder....the only one I would actually care about is the viewfinder. The focus is cool, but I would never buy a first generation autofocus system. Oh and flash sync is nice if you do studio work. But if you do studio work I doubt you'd be shouldn't be asking buying advice on engadget ;-)
"just get the 40D, master it, then move on up."
Anyone who's new to photography shouldn't be concerned too much with mastering any one particular camera. Growing as a photographer has nothing to do with your camera. Understanding how to be a good photographer has nothing to do with your camera.
I think you'll notice a trend among buyers of DSLRs, that they think a better camera will make them a better shooter. A better device only enhances the abilities of those who have already acquired the skills needed to utilize them. Until then, literally ANYTHING will do.
As for studio photography, the official Canon Press Release names it as an "Integrated Speedlite Transmitter" which will be completely and utterly pointless for anyone who does studio work. Nobody that I know of even uses Speedlights except for doing some small outdoor thing. Now, if they integrated a Pocket Wizard transmitter then maybe I'd go and buy a 7D.
@Noah
Totally agree with you. I've been using a G7 for the last 3 years just to learn the ropes.
I was planning on upgrading to a T1i when it came out (a couple things held me back) and to be honest I wouldn't even mind getting an XS... just want to move up to a DSLR.
Of course when video recording came to the DSLRs the story changed completely... so that's how I arrived at my dilemma. Spend the extra dough for the 7D or just get the T1i. (After reading a little more on them I'm just gonna get the 7D)
Canon to Nikon
"All your base are belong to us"
Sorry couldn't resist :P
Nikon to Canon:
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Canon to Nikon:
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Nikon to Canon:
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Engadget readers to commenters above:
Please stop.
Isn't this basically the 60D? What would the 60D be compared to this if it came out??
This sounds sweet:
"Capture images exactly as you see them
The Canon EOS 7D features an Intelligent Viewfinder that offers photographers 100 per cent frame coverage. With 1.0x magnification* - a first for EOS - photographers see a large bright image that helps to fully immerse them within the shot. A transmissive LCD incorporated in the viewfinder allows photographers to choose between various overlay features - such as AF points, the spot metering circle and composition grid – providing a range of tools that help when framing a shot. The EOS 7D is also the first EOS to introduce a Dual-Axis Electronic Level – in the viewfinder and on the LCD - that indicates both pitch and roll angles. This feature is particularly useful when shooting landscapes to ensure a level horizon, or when used in conjunction with a Tilt and Shift lens to level the camera."
I have no idea how they could come out with something in between this and the T1i... this is just so awesome and relatively cheap at the same time.. I am wondering if they are going to phase out the x0D line up now...
Nope, there are way too many new features for it to be the 50D replacement (i.e. the 60D)- Canon have basically created a new range here to fit between the 50D and the 5D mark II. You can expect incremental upgrades from the 50D to 60D, not a whole range of new features which even out-do current higher level models including the 5D MII.
So what will be replacing the 50D in the future? It's a pretty big jump from the Rebel T1i to the 7D... and they can't make the 50D forever...
I've always enjoyed the feel of the 20, 30, 40 and 50D... they fit better in my hands. The Rebel's grip is too small and .
Hopefully they will continue to make something between the Rebel and the 7D.
"A new range" ?? jesus people, why do you all still insist on putting Nikon and Canon's cameras in ranges? EVERY OTHER CAMERA they release overlaps one of your fictional ranges. And even then, next year's "Entry level model" is going to be better than the prosumer model from 2 years ago, the "pro" model from 4 years ago. Compare the 400D to the 1D, all the 1D has is more AF points and stronger plastic.
@neofolklore
uh... 'cause Canon have come out and said it's a new range for them- maybe try reading the press release next time yeah? ;)
Why on earth is this camera bundled with a 28-135mm!!!??? Give it either the 18-55 IS, or one of the two new ones (15-85 or 18-135).
I'm beginning to think that the 28-135 is a misquotation. 28-135/1.6 equals 17.5-84.375, so I think the numbers given in the article are 35mm equivalent ratings of whatever lens comes with the 7D.
If I needed a good reason to move away from the Pentax system, I think I just got it.
Because the K7 is not a viable alternative to this camera? It's $500 cheaper, has in body stabilization, in camera-HDR, is significantly smaller and lighter, and has many of the same specs such as the 100%VF and horizon level. I don't really see this camera as a viable reason to switch from another system such as Nikon/Pentax/Sony.
If this was $1800 and Full Frame, then I would think differently. Judging on Canon's mistake with the 50D pixel density, I think we all need to wait on the verdict for image quality on this beast.
Problem is that, in my case, the K7 isn't a viable alternative to this, and my investment in the system just isn't large enough to justify sticking with it. I want a camera with worthwhile in-body flash control. I occasionally do shoot sports, so the high frame rate is desirable. I'd like a camera that doesn't make plaid patterns out of shadows at anything past ISO 200, which the 50D doesn't do. I've started to move into commercial photography, shooting bands and weddings, and I'll eventually want a full-frame option. It also doesn't help that I have huge hands that don't fit well around the K7. I've started to hit the limitations of the Pentax system, and it's time I start moving away from it.
I wish that Canon were willing to put in-body IS on their cameras. I hate the idea of having to pay for it in every lens I buy. For several years, that's kept me using Pentax. It's the only reason why I'm even considering the Sony A850, despite the fact that their system is still not fully fleshed out.
i dont get it , if its a crop sensor why is it being sold with a 28-135mm kit lens ? why not an 18 - __ ?
they have been doing that for a while now with the 40D and 50D.. makes no sense to me as its like a 45-210mm lens on this crop factor.. I'd get the body only.