Now everyone pretend to be surprised here. Canon's gone official with what everyone has
already seen and read about in detail, the
EOS 7D. Specs look to be exactly what we heard, too: 18 megapixel APS-C CMOS sensor with 8 frames per second continuous shooting,
1080p 24fps HD video with full manual control, a 3-inch LCD, 19-point AF system, and wireless flash control. Mum's still the word on pricing and availability, though. Hit up the read link for the full press release, as well as some hands-on impressions care of
Digital Photography Review.
Update: Canon's press release has now gone live. Price is $1,699 body-only or $1,899 with an EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM zoom lens, and target launch is set for end of September.
Read - Press release
Read - Hands-on
I use the 28-135mm lens with my 40D and it works great. The lack of "wide" on the low end of the scale hasn't ever really been a problem for me, but having the extra on the long end has been nice.
@rtewng: huh? 40D and 50D bundles used to include the 17-85 IS USM. Not a great lens, but at least it has got some wide angle...
The new 15-85mm is probably too expensive for a kit lens, $799 on amazon.
Just so everyone knows.... it is up for sale on amazon already. Get your preorder in early or your stuck with no camera like the Panasonic GH1.
I CAN SEE THE FUTURE: Someone named "Eugenia Loli-Queru" will show her o-so-hotness here and say how great this is that it has 24p video.
LOL! You sir winz!
why wait? head to canon.jp's site. find the EOS digital product page, click the EOS movie link, and then select 7D sample movie. i'm downloading it now.
Macjonny speaks the truth, I telepathically beamed these thoughts to him from the future.
LOL I don't think she's going to comment here now, I saw her leave a comment on Gizmodo complaining that she's been trolled for bringing up the need for different frame rates- I think she feels hard done by.
"The price is amazing for what you get (again, for video stuff). Real 24p, and 60p, and even real-er 30p at 29.97 fps -- something that I had been shouting about in these forums and I was trolled against for asking this feature"
... her words
BTW anyone else missing iKurt? These posts don't feel the same without his fevered fanboyism.
I needed an upgrade from my 20D (only after 4yrs of use). 10 extra megapixel and 1080p is enough reasons to upgrade and its priced perfectly for the amateurs/prosumers.
I guess the only people who are disappointed are the ones who just bought a 50D and ppl expecting full frame under $2k.
Wireless flash control? That's pretty neat, right?
And does the fact that it uses CF instead of SD cards give a hint as to it's place in the canon lineup? Or do only the Rebels use SD?
Double digit Canons have use CF ever since.
This is an exciting camera. Might be time to upgrade my 40D.
I'm a big disappointed they didn't include GPS or WiFi built-in. Those both seem like natural (and inexpensive to implement) features for a camera at this level. I'm also a little perplexed that Canon is holding on to Compact Flash so much. CF cards are getting harder and harder to find in high capacity. Other than those things it really looks like Canon has been listening to photographers, and is giving them what they want.
I really like the wireless flash control. I can get rid of my transmitter, and quit worrying about replacing the $11 batteries in it. Nice.
Compactflash is still faster and more durable than SDHC that's why it's the preferred format for professional photographers. Also large capacity cards aren't a huge priority for professionals; their livelihood depends on their shots, shooting on multiple smaller cards gives them a fail safe in case one of the cards becomes corrupted. Better to lose a few shots rather than a whole days shooting on one card.
WiFi is a $699 addition with the transmitter grip which includes bluetooth tethering for gps:
New Wireless Connectivity
Canon is announcing the availability of the new WFT-E5A wireless file transmitter (WFT) exclusively for the EOS 7D Digital SLR camera. The WFT-E5A wireless transmitter offers professional photographers a wide range of digital connectivity options including IEEE802.11a/b/g and Ethernet, ideal for commercial and studio work. The WFT-E5A wireless file transmitter opens the door to new possibilities in remote and Geotagged shooting applications. Photographers can fire up to 10 cameras simultaneously from across the room or across the country while maintaining control over camera settings and remote live view on a laptop or smart phone.i The WFT-E5A wireless transmitter can also transfer and display images on DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) compatible televisions and photo frames. Geotagging is now possible via Bluetooth, using compatible GPS devices to append coordinate data to the images.
Yeah, I saw that WiFi is an optional add-on. But at $700, they'll sell about 6 of them (most people willing to spend that much probably would be buying the 1Ds Mk3 or 1D Mk3). And requiring that add-on to geotag is kind of ridiculous. Both functions could have been included in the camera for less than $10 in parts.
For all of us worrying about the noise levels this new sensor would bring, seems like Canon have done an admirable job of controlling it, in fact the noise levels are better than the 50D. This camera is turning out to be better than I hoped :)
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=8559827&postcount=1294
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
EF or EF and EF-S?
so on the next go round we will have a dedicated movie setting accessed via dial? or does it start with the newest 1D/1Ds model that hasnt been rumored but i'd imagine it is on its way to implement all the technology namely DiGiC 4
I've been shooting with my xsi for a year. I am looking to upgrade. I am interested in shooting sports, my kids, and family vacations. I am not interested in video on my DSLR. Whould the smart move be to wait for the anticipated price reduction of the 50D and go with a 50D?
Damnit I JUST BOUGHT A 50D LAST WEEK.
I've been using the 5D Mark II, and I've seen some high ISO photos with the 7D. The 7D's APS sensor cripples it at high ISOs. It's noise is really bad in comparison to the 5D Mark II at ISO 3200 and above. But then Nikon's D700 and D3, with the 12.3 megapixel sensors eat Canon's lunch when it comes to ISO 6400 and higher. Even at ISO 1600, which I've shot a lot with the 5D Mark II, it can't match Nikon's speed demons. Now, at ISO 800, the 5D Mark II makes gorgeous photos with detail only surpassed by the D3X and Sony's 24.6 mp cameras (if you keep their speeds to 400 ISO and below).
You say the 5D can't match Nikon's speed demons, the only way they get such high frame rates is by reducing IQ, you either have to drop to 12bit shooting instead of 14bit to get the higher rates or shoot in DX! The 5D mark IIs rates are at 14 bit. It's a bit of a marketing trick really, if you want the highest frame rates possible with a Nikon you have to drop your IQ. As an example the D3X at 14bit drops to 1.8fps, when people compare the fps between a Canon and Nikon they aren't really comparing like for like. These figures make the 7D's 8fps at 14bit the more impressive!
However, i'm not disputing the quality of the Nikons images, they've proven themselves especially at high ISO. All i'm saying is if you want high fps on a Nikon you have to realise the type of photography it's useful for, it's not going to give you the best image possible but for something like sports photography it's ideal.
You say the 5D can't match Nikon's speed demons, the only way they get such high frame rates is by reducing IQ, you either have to drop to 12bit shooting instead of 14bit to get the higher rates or shoot in DX! The 5D mark IIs rates are at 14 bit. It's a bit of a marketing trick really, if you want the highest frame rates possible with a Nikon you have to drop your IQ. As an example the D3X at 14bit drops to 1.8fps, when people compare the fps between a Canon and Nikon they aren't really comparing like for like. These figures make the 7D's 8fps at 14bit the more impressive!
However, i'm not disputing the quality of the Nikons images, they've proven themselves especially at high ISO. All i'm saying is if you want high fps on a Nikon you have to realise the type of photography it's useful for, it's not going to give you the best image possible but for something like sports photography it's ideal.
Sorry about the double post! Stupid comment system!
sample images and movies
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http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos7d/
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This is a great bridge from the 50D. Though it would have been amazing to have the 1.3 crop instead. Better balance with speed and sensor size for those that don't want to go to a 1D body.
if people are willing to spend this much on a camera, youre better off saving a bit more and getting the 1d or 1ds. I was in that situation about 6 months ago and took the plunge for the 1d mkiii. Best decision of my life. Paired with my L glass, there is nothing better on the market.
Couldn't agree more. bought my 1D Mark lll in April and will never look back. Build quality and IQ is unsurpassed.
Let's look at the 7D and the current market from the low light shooting point of view.
The typical light of human interiors is about 1/60th at f/4 at ISO 400. For a group shot, when DOF is important, the settings should be 1/60th at f/8 at ISO 1600. And if you shoot moving subjects (dancing for example) and need DOF and want to get sharp images, it should be 1/250th at f/8 at ISO 6400 or more desirably 1/500th at f/8 at ISO 12800. And that is for typical lighting. But what about so called low lighting? A night bar or a wedding ceremony with candles light only? You say forget it, and I agree with you. It’s too much to ask. But that is what you need, ISO 12800, to take a perfect shot in low lighting conditions.
Do we get such a camera on the market now? No. Are any of the camera makers going to that direction? Yes. And it’s Sony with its promising Exmor R sensor (at least on the paper). And I am already desperately waiting for Sony A750 or A950 with Exmor R sensor. I also hope that Nikon can surprise us with a good low light camera, too. So far they were the best.
So, for the Canon DLSRs. Honestly, I am very disappointed. Canon took the direction to deliver more pixels at high lighting conditions, which is important for those who need to print posters. But Canon failed at low lighting. The new Canon 7D delivers miserable results above ISO 1600. To see it yourself, visit http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM, select 7D and Nikon D3X (we need the Nikon image as a reference; we do not compare cameras here) still-life at ISO 3200, double click the images to go to 100%, and then look at the red fabric at the left upper part of the images: there are virtually no details in the 7D image. Now reselect 7D still-life at ISO 1600 at look again at the same fabric. The result is somewhat better, but is still disappointing. So, the point here - you cannot shoot with 7D at ISO 3200.
Now you need to choose between the higher resolution of 7D at high lighting and high quality at low lighting of some other cameras like Nikon D3X, D700.
From IBC2009 in Amsterdam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40809477@N00/sets/72157622227264431/show/with/3914478592/
7d racked and ready for video.
New products are always more advanced than older ones. The good thing is that all recent cameras are able to satisfy 99% of your shooting needs. Instead I would concentrate on taking the most out of my camera and lenses.
About the integrated Speedlight wireless transmitter that is the most important upgrade in 7D, 5D users will have to use the external transmitter or the Speedlight 430EX/580EX to command other flashes.
No reason to talk about video since these are cameras and video is only a gadget.
If you are still looking to buy the new Canon 7D you may what to visit http://www.couponshouse.com/calumet/6152/coupon-promotional-code.htm; sometimes they post useful discount codes.
Enjoy.