Video hands-on: Samsung's YP-M1 media player is Tegra-based but no Zune HD
By Thomas Ricker 
posted September 4th 2009 12:59PM
posted September 4th 2009 12:59PM
Unfortunately, we couldn't get a real sense for the audio quality from the show floor due to the DJ mixing his decks not 10 feet from our position. What we can say for sure is that it's a fingerprint magnet, the volume buttons are hopelessly small and far too tightly packed into the upper-edge of the player, and the Gingerbread Man is dead... Fa La la lalalala la, dead. Watch the fatal pummeling from our massive beef hammers in the video after the break.
And these losers are going to ship an all OLED Laptop in Q1 2010...
riiiiiiigh..
nubs cant even get on the HD bandwagon...
Good luck using your 640x420 17" OLED laptops!!!
AHAHAH!!
can you please go away clak/ieye/schweppes/a dozen other stupid names? We don't like you here.
Sexy :)
While I cant blame you for having an opinion. I completely disagree. Its a typical samsung crummy artistic decor with large flaws in the interface just like my samsung eternity. Oh yeah, dont bet on updates....EVER!!! UGH, the eternity with its handful of bugs is still on its release version, with no update being planned.
I can tell you after my last two samsung phones (sync & eternity) I'm done with samsung's portable electronics. Buy an ipod, zuneHD, or that sony, but not this.
I don't know about Sammy's phones, but their mp3 players get so many updates it's hard to keep track of!
Samsung MP3 player Firmware list: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32690
Wow... that looks painful to use.
I love that a Zune device has set the bar for something.
fail
@Mjayhunt
Saying fail is a fail now.
This is curiously not a failure; both his comments got upranked.
Sounds quite victorious to me.
"Watch the fatal pummeling from our massive beef hammers"
Is this video work safe? Doesn't sound like it.
I love that a Zune device has finally set the bar for something.
F the comment system.
Tegra understandably seems to be the new standard for PMPs lately. So, the Zune HD has it, as does the YP-M1, but does anyone think there will be any chance of the next gen iPod Touch having it??
For the Touch that's going to be announced next week? No. And by the next year there will be something more advanced than the Tegra.
The only thing that is on par with Tegra is Snapdragon. Regardless, Tegra is bleeding edge stuff.
That poor gingerbread man... Shrek may actually kill you, Thomas!
I'm sure SAMSUNG doesn't believe in 'Nielsen Ratings', or else it'd have figured out by 2008 that Wi-Fi is almost necessary to satisfy the needs of sizable amount of the population that buy PMP's.
It took MS 2 yrs, hopefully SAMMY will hop into the wagon before 2010.
I love you SAMMY, but you've gotta put some money in data mining to understand the needs of your customers.
wat.
MS had a WiFi enabled PMP before Apple did.
I wonder if Apple will surprise everyone and include a Tegra chip in the new iPod Touch. Apple and NVIDIA have been pretty tight last year, but NVIDIA kinda fucked them with those faulty Macbook boards.
But obviously most companies think Tegra is ready for the market. I don't think Apple would want to be left behind and two weeks from now see headline like "New Zune HD Beats the Living Shit Out of New iPod Touch".
Or Tegra is just way overrated, and we're gonna see another yawner update for the new iPod Touch ("We listened to our costumers... And what they really want is chrome on the volume rocker!").
Apple will probably just update the touches to 3GS spec. They're not going to get Tegra into it. And no, Tegra isn't overrated.
I imagine that the iPod and Zune using the same chipset would ruin many a flame war. And quite frankly, I'm not sure either company wants that to happen. Regardless of whether the chip is better or not, I don't think Apple wants to be seen as 'following' the Zune HD's initiative. Instead they will use the chip from the 3GS and call it "fast", but never mention that it is not as fast as the HD. The official tagline will be that it's faster than all other iPod Touches, and for the consumer, that will mean it's the best.
Zune HD, it's up to your marketing to change that. Best of luck to both teams.
ALLEZ CUISINE!!!
Go to the kitchen?
Samsung needs to fix their UIs. This is still the same laggy, ugly and unintuitive UI from the P3. They can't even utilize the tegra power.
If I remember correctly the UI is Flash based which is going to sluggish. If you look at Nvidia and ZuneHD Tegra demos you can see the hardware is capable of much more.
Where's 5-8 mp camera with HD video recording? I'll ignore the lack of GSM if there's a nice camera.
At the same time, I can just get a GSM phone with all the same features and similar size, price... except for Tegra.
same price? I seriously doubt that, unless you are willing to sell yourself into a 2 year contract which would cost well over 2 grand in total.
Tegra has an old arm11. Slow. It is over rated.
I don't think you quite understand how the Tegra works. You could start with the fact that the ARM 11 is one of 8 different processors.
No I don't think you have a clue what makes up a modern ARM-based System on Chip.
The 3GS's CPU is around twice as powerful as a Tegra.
What nVidia call "processors" are simply lots of functional blocks in the chip that everybody else has too.
It's got an audio CODEC - wow, that's a processor! It's got a 2D graphics controller - wow, that's a core too! Do you seriously think that the other SoCs don't have these or is it just marketing spin by people who want to sell you a chip?
Looking at the Samsung SoC in the 3GS and qualify it by the same standards nVidia use, you'll find it has 10 processors. The TI OMAP3 in the Pre and the N900 too. Count them:
1) Cortex A8 CPU
2) NEON DSP
3) SGX 3D Graphics
4) 2D Graphics
5) Vector Graphics accelerator
6) Video encoder
7) Video decoder
8) JPEG accelerator
9) Audio processor
10) Cryptographic accelerator
It also has more memory bandwidth, which is often a limiting feature to performance, as it uses DDR2.
Now Tegra 2, which will have 2 CPU cores, each of which more powerful than an Atom: that will be a great product.
@fnuky
>The 3GS's CPU is around twice as powerful as a Tegra.
Stopped reading here.
Put a cortex a8 2x faster at the same clock reate then they'll have something..
If the files off microsd card is integrated into the main library this all of a sudden becomes a more useful device than the Zune HD in some aspects.I may have to put this on my list of what mp3 to get next. I'd rather have a sd/microsd card slot over wifi any day(but both would be nice) as I already have a smartphone with wifi from Samsung oddly enough.
it looks a little crude right now but Sammy has no problem with firmware updates. it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if people actually end up hearing about this one unlike other pmp's etc
If you shake it, does the gingerbread man fall out of the hole in the bottom?
I prefer this over the Zune HD. Until Zune comes out with a 3.3 Amoled PMP, then no thankyou Microsoft.
Sammy does need to work on their UI, though. but the 3.3 inch AMOLED is too tempting.