Dell packs Intel's Lynnfield CPUs into Studio XPS 8000 and 9000 desktops
By Darren Murph 
posted September 8th 2009 5:34PM
posted September 8th 2009 5:34PM
posted September 8th 2009 5:34PM
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Champing.....?
Is that anything like chomping?
Yep, "champing" since at least 1577 and "chomping" as a variant since at least 1645...
Yeah I tried to correct myself hours ago after looking it up in the dictionary, but Engadget's effed up comment system wouldn't let me.
The smaller one is pretty nice. The bigger one less so.
WHERE ARE MAH BLURRY PICS ABOUT NEW APPLE STUFF?
Dude that is so nasty! Don't click that link!
Yes because a blurred picture of an iPod is nasty -_-
It made my Philips GoGear throw up!
Only the smaller one is minty fresh. The larger one has a burst of cinnamon flavor.
I'd upgrade the power supply but those look good to me.
With those specs available why not allow the latest and greatest video cards from at least ONE supplier?
Because i assume they don't want to take business away from their XPS line?
I just wanted to give dell a positive review here. I just ordered a couple desktops for my business, and to save money we bought Studio XPS desktops instead of Dell's Precision workstations (we aren't doing anything that needs ECC RAM, etc), and despite being slightly worried about quality having used workstations in the past, they are very good. The build quality is definitely far better than a cheap no-name PC.
We got Core i7 Nehalems with 12GB of RAM and put in OCZ Vertex SSDs, and the things FLY!
i give it to dell they make so kick arse rigs when they want to.
I'd be pretty certain that as you upgrade the machine itself, they'd swap the PSU for one that will run it in a stable configuration.
I checked Dell's site. It really is a 350W Power Supply...Not gonna work with an i7 & a GTX260...
I believe the 435 (or 9000, as they now call it.) has a 475 watt PSU. Also, I'm sure Dell has built enough computers to know what will and wont work. I highly doubt they'd match a 350 watt PSU with components that require more power than that.
I've never been a big fan of Dell but I have to say, I've been quite impressed with the performance of these computers and especially given their price. I'm well aware you can build a computer with the same or better specifications for less, but not all users can do that or are willing to.
The markup they get to charge people who can't build their own computers is pretty steep. Other then say a school or business that needed a few hundred of them and it would cost them more to put them all together.
System building is great and all, but your average user doesn't want to hassle with it, and especially doesn't want to hassle with the lack of support.
is dell still using proprietary motherboards? if they are, definitely stay away from their desktops.
Wow, those are going to be really fast. Are they using the nanobots?
Motherboard $110 (P55 Intel)
DDR3 4gb - $80 (2x40)
Video card - 3450 $40
CPU - $230 (approx)
HDD - 320gb $50
Case - $40 with 350W PSU
DVD - $20 (could be cheaper)
Sum: $570. Not $800.
Please correct me if I forgot anything.
nerd
There is no way the power supply that comes with the case will be up to the job. Dell's PSU's are usually pretty decent to give them some credit. Don't forget you need an OS in there (OK, dell probably get that fairly cheap).
the i7-870 is $555 not, $230.
Not having to build it yourself, thus saving you hours of work, days possibly if you have to wait for parts. Not forgetting one little part that, if left out, ruins your rig (my friend forgot a heatsink, bad shit went down). Not beating the shit out of your rig and yourself when an unknown error pops up. Yeah, I may pay $200 extra. Convenience and the fact that it shows up and it usually works (yes, you'll need to get rid of bloatware, set up users, transfer your files and shit, blah blah blah, but hey, it turns on.) and the fact that like 90% of consumers out there, I'm lazy as hell and don't want to build my own rig make it worth it. Hell the same argument that you just made could be applied to the CPU itself. Raw materials- 50 bucks maybe, Labor force- 50 bucks maybe. So technically you're spending 130 more than you need. Yes i know no average person could make their own CPU, they simply don't have the means. But to 90% of consumers out there, they don't know they can make a computer either. It's called profit. What would be the point of making a product if you were to sell it for no gain?
BTW, I got nothing against making your own rig, I want to someday myself. Thing is, this is Dell we're talking about. Half the people that buy computers from them think that little elves run in gerbil wheels inside the case, and that's what makes it work.
At the risk of also being cut down by MaX PL, here are Newegg's lowest prices for the XPS 8000's components ($799 starting configuration):
Vista Home Premium 64-bit = $110 w/free shipping
Intel Core i5-750 = $210 w/free shipping
LGA1156 mATX P55 motherboard (Foxconn) = $105 w/free shipping
4GB DDR3-1066MHz (Crucial) = $63 w/free shipping
500GB 7200RPM HDD (Samsung) = $50 w/free shipping
SATA CD/DVD-burner (Lite-On) = $29 + shipping
ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB GPU = $35 + shipping
case w/350W PSU (Rosewill) = $35 + shipping
cheapest optical m&k option (Atop) = $15 + shipping
TOTAL = $652 + labor + shipping on four items, including the case
It's hardly a bad deal (especially if you have to buy your own OS), but many have their own m&k, want a bigger PSU, want a better GPU, etc. Others might not want to mess with computer innards, might not be big gamers, or they might think that Rosewill case was designed for 12-year olds. Either way, I'm pretty impressed with Dell/HP/Gateway/etc.'s prices these days (so long as you don't stray too far from the starting configurations), and I think the main advantage of DIY PCs is customization, not cash savings.
$800 is still not a very bad price for $600 PC if it saves you time and trouble. As for me - I just like building the PC from pieces.
CPU - i750 for $230 approx. Possibly cheaper.
username: With that reply, you just wasted all the time you saved. Congratulations.
Btw, I have never assembled a new pc from scratch, but I can take my old one apart and back together in about half an hour.
You forgot PSU and OS which will easily run you over $100 for both if you get the OEM OS otherwise it will be much more. I've been building my own systems for years and honestly I'm thinking of buying this. As someone said, the headache is worth paying $100 more with fewer possible hassles. I am worried about the 350W PSU, but I'll run an power consumption comparison on the components to see how it shakes out.
10minutehobo: aha, but that would be where you're wrong. I am, in fact, not making a computer like I had mentioned, therefor I am not wasting my time. I AM however making snarky comments on the internet, which is easily the most productive thing one could do with his or her time.
In all seriousness though, I commend you on your P.C. skills. It takes my 10 goddamn minutes to replace a stick of RAM. *Golf Clap*
I think engadget must have gotten the 9000 confused with a mac pro, because on dell's site it's only 849 to start.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/desktop-studio-xps-435/pd.aspx?refid=desktop-studio-xps-435&s=dhs&cs=19&~oid=us~en~29~desktop-studio-xps-435_anav1~~
maybe next time engadget.
Help me out here.
What happened to nicely priced systems using the i7 920 cpu? Where does this cpu fit in the scheme of things?
Engadget got their info wrong if you go to the dell website the XPS 9000(Read:rebadged XPS 435) is the i7-920@ for $849
@username
It's ok I found his missing money you don't have to go bonkers. And building a computer isn't all that hard, a 7-year old can do it literally.
The 9000 is definitely a rebadge of the 435. I ordered a 435 about a week ago, and my shipping page now reads 9000 - same specs across the board.
I never quite understood the pairing of "Studio" and "XPS". Remember the days when XPS stood for sheer performance from Dell ?
p.s. I am aware dell isn't the best brand, bear with me
Well, generally their studio series is a cut above the standard Inspiron. Multimedia PCs with a sophisticated design, aimed at the semi-professional users. XPS does stand for sheer performance. Which is why all of the Studio XPS machines have Core i7s and now the Core i5 as well.
Actually, from what I've read and in my experience using the Studio XPS desktops, I'd say they outperform most of the XPS systems I've seen. That's because the XPS systems don't yet have the core i7 processor. I'm sure Dell is working on a new model.
The design is nice :)
350W power supply? I would consider a Studio XPS 8000/9000 PC but NEVER with a punter 350W ps. Is Dell following HP here? many current HP systems ship with a 350W ps too. Bad to worse - I've noticed much of HP's current literature, spec PDF's, etc. for systems shipping with a 350W ps (or less! when will they learn!) mysteriously do not list the ps used or it's rating :(
Dell only sells 1066 MHz RAM on this machine. What a joke.
I've had an XPS 8000 for a little over a week and am far from impressed.
I'm having major BIOS issues and despite having 8GB installed (win 7 64 bit) it only has 4GB usable.
Tech support tell me that the BIOS needs to be replaced (with one that supports memory re-mapping) but they dont have a fix yet and nor do they have a date for when it will be.
Surely this is something you would check before releasing to the marketplace?!?!?!
My advice is buyer beware!!!!!!!!!