@Skeezle: No, I don't actually. I'm also not stupid enough to think that the Zune HD had nothing to do with the iPod Touch/iPhone. Of course the Zune is competing with the iPods. Come on, use your head. I used to respect you(despite our differing viewpoints) but your trolling on this comment thread is just ridiculous.
If the iPod never existed, neither would the Zune. REALITY. Same with the iPod Touch & Zune HD. When the iPod did not have radio capabilities it was derided by all the MS defender / Apple haters here as inferior to all other PMPs. Now it has one, like many other PMPs, including ones that existed before the Zune, and you are going to tell me Apple got the idea from the Zune? I think the only ideas Apple is getting from the Zune is what not to do.
@Skeezle: There's a difference between copying and competing(though most here mix up those differences). What I think happened was that they needed to keep the nano's relevant, since other players were completely outclassing it due to Apple's focus on the iPod Touch/iPhone. So they added a video camera(no still pictures still boggles my mind, but that's another story) and a bigger screen and to round out the package, they added the one thing the existing Zunes had over it: FM radio. It's fairly clear that they didn't go through the past decade without noticing that radio existed. They needed to beat competing products point for point, including radio.
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...and FM radio? Looks like this thing is trying to compete with the Zunes... at least last years.
Zune with 1% marketshare based on latest stats, no one needs to compete with Zune,
not even Creative or Sandisk. :)
too little, too late
Yes, and I am sure that Zunes will compete with last year's iPod sales.
Or maybe the first year sales of the iPod?
Down rank the reality away!
I dont know I still think that ZuneHD is going to be better... even without the camera......
An FM radio on an mp3 player, welcome to 2002 Crapple.
@the first 3: Good job, idiots. Do you really think the addition of FM radio had nothing to do with the Zune? Come off it, you're being ridiculous.
@skeezle
"Down rank the reality away!'
Good to know that your version of reality is something that hasn't even happened yet.
And the Zen from a few years ago!
The cognitive dissonance is going to be epic.
Before today:
"No one uses an FM radio and Apple recognizes this. They compete on an integrated experience instead of a list disconnected features like a radio."
Today:
Introducing the new iPod nano! Now with microphone, speaker, pedometer, camera, voice-over, radio, and the kitchen sink!
And do you think that the Zune itself had nothing to do with the iPod? You are the idiot, Mark.
@Skeezle: No, I don't actually. I'm also not stupid enough to think that the Zune HD had nothing to do with the iPod Touch/iPhone. Of course the Zune is competing with the iPods. Come on, use your head. I used to respect you(despite our differing viewpoints) but your trolling on this comment thread is just ridiculous.
If the iPod never existed, neither would the Zune. REALITY. Same with the iPod Touch & Zune HD.
When the iPod did not have radio capabilities it was derided by all the MS defender / Apple haters here as inferior to all other PMPs. Now it has one, like many other PMPs, including ones that existed before the Zune, and you are going to tell me Apple got the idea from the Zune? I think the only ideas Apple is getting from the Zune is what not to do.
@Skeezle: There's a difference between copying and competing(though most here mix up those differences). What I think happened was that they needed to keep the nano's relevant, since other players were completely outclassing it due to Apple's focus on the iPod Touch/iPhone. So they added a video camera(no still pictures still boggles my mind, but that's another story) and a bigger screen and to round out the package, they added the one thing the existing Zunes had over it: FM radio. It's fairly clear that they didn't go through the past decade without noticing that radio existed. They needed to beat competing products point for point, including radio.