Toshiba's 1.8-inch 160GB PATA disk is ready for KIRFers
By Thomas Ricker 
posted September 10th 2009 5:38AM
posted September 10th 2009 5:38AM
posted September 10th 2009 5:38AM
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would it be possible to install this into the ipod touches
I maybe wrong but I think the ipod touch uses on board flash memory. If this this is correct, the answer is no.
Lol, i read ipod touch, rather than ipod classic, my bad.
the weird thing is, my friend claims to have heard fans, or mechanical noises flash based ipod touch.
It's not (realistically) possible. There's simply no room in there for a hard drive, they use flash memory.
Can we use this drive inside a 1st gen MacBook Air or a HTC shift?
Is it PATA-ZIF?
Interface is rated as 100 MB/sec
At least ATA-6 is needed for the HTC shift. 100MB/s seems to translate in ATA-5 but I can be totally wrong.
Any ATA drive of capacity larger than 137 gigabytes is ATA-6.
@Imdaillest
You say "Any ATA drive of capacity larger than 137 gigabytes is ATA-6."
There must be a confusion somewhere because the 240GB MK2431GAH, which is ATA LIF, only supports ATA-2 and ATA-3
http://www.storage.toshiba.eu/index.php?id=87&pid=242&sid=7
Same drive is rated as 100MB/s here
http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MKxx31GAxSeries/MKxx31GAxSpecs
It does not seem good for a MBA or HTC shift mod.
http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd18/34.htm
The 34 models interface is only compatible with ATA-3 and ATA-4 as in the 31 series.
This disks CANNOT BE USED with MBA 1st edition and HTC shift.
Too bad Toshiba.
Does not the ATA-6 standard demand backwards compatibility with previous standards?
Big things can come in small packages. Thats hot, I'm buyin it!
I'm glad that positive thinking self-help book your girlfriend bought you seems to be helping... ;) (sorry brother, couldn't resist)
Apple puts firmware on, therefore less space.
how much space does that firmware take up!???!?!? lol
Plus Toshiba are probably using 64kbps MP3s as their reference, whereas Apple are probably using their default iTunes rip format (whatever that may be).
If you opened a Zune, could you stick this inside it?
I probably couldn't, but microsoft could! Get to it MS. Oh, and bring back the matte front of the 80GB.
pfff, Engadget ignored the GREEN angle of the link. Whyyyy? We could be saving the worldddddd with these things!
;)
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In operation, MK1634GAL family delivers significant environmentally friendly performance improvements from Toshiba's previous generation of 1.8-inch drive, including a 24% improvement of MK1634GAL in energy consumption efficiency[3] . The MK1634GAL family is also compliant with the European Union's RoHS directive[4] and halogen free.
The new drives achieve chlorine and bromine concentrations below 900ppm, and a combined overall total below 1,500ppm, achieving the standard required for recognition as Toshiba environmentally conscious products (ECP).
PATA? Is this due to the form factor? I mean c'mon, it's 2009, this thing should be a SATA drive..
just sayin...
SATA has higher power requirements and the speed bump is meaningless for slow drives like these.
I ripped one these out of an old Philips MP3 player (60GB) just to see how small it was - they're great ... Why do we get so excited over stuff like this!?
That battery is huge!
Yes, the Technology has made this possible, but as small as these drives are the fact that they use a NON-STANDARD interface makes them a pain in the ass for Data Recovery.
Dell has been using these for years in their Laptops (D420 and D430: 80GB Version). It's a pain when you can't pop a drive out of a PC and slave it to another. Yes, you can get an adapter ($30 - $35), they need to make this kind of drive to have a more standard connection or provide an external adapter with it on purchased with a Product that includes them.
Uh, CE-ATA and 40 pin ZIF are standards, the most common ones for 1.8" drives still.
Die Toshiba! Die! Die! Die!
...And no, I'm not speaking German.
Can I put in this drive into my older 80GB iPod Classic?
I am typing this on a first gen MBA and the system profiler assures me that the disk is not SATA but it is ATA. Perhaps later MBAs hold SATA drives, but I doubt it. Very sad I cannot use this to upgrade.