a few things to point out. xbox owners are getting screwed over by microsoft, that's a fact. just check the price of a 20gig hard drive (only 13gb useable FYI) and then the current wireless adapter is over $100 AUD, and they will only release this to the elite system because they are trying to sell another xbox to people or already own one, or after it has died with RROD (my xbox was twice RROD). the new xbox doesn't even ship with a HDMI cable - because they want you to buy the thing on its own for more money.
microsoft are refusing to answer questions or have send out a press release regarding hard drive size because they don't care, they are making too much money to worry about the news. so what if 54% die, they will sell you another one. because for some reason people want to buy something that will break again and again.
Like their online pricing, some things are in points so you don't know how much you are spending and then the new 'games on demand' are in dollar prices.
Microsoft will never learn until people stop buying the xbox, stop paying $90 a month to play online (which is free on the playstation), and refuse to buy the extras like wireless for $100 and HDMI cable for $40, controllers for $90, games for $100. and all the other stuff they seems to be an extra. inlcuding divx support, and non-windows share drives.
Do yourselves a favor, and buy ps3. it works, is now slim, has just a price cut, plays blu-ray, can have up to 7 players (an ice hockey team on the same console), has wireless built in, and you can change the hard drive yourself for any price you like (but comes with a 120gb now).
xbox is for soccer moms who have more money then sense, playstations are for people who like consoles that Just work out of the box.
Normally I don't comment to if there's a chance I'm gonna start a flame war (and especially not to defend Microsoft) but jesus sam, you're just wrong all over the place. Are you intentionally saying dumb things?
1. "they will only release this to the elite system because they are trying to sell another xbox" A. It's USB dude, it'll work with any 360 model.
2. "so what if 54% die, they will sell you another one. because for some reason people want to buy something that will break again and again." A. Yeah, the 360 has a horrible rate of failure. I'm on my 3rd one. Guess what, my other 2 were replaced for free via the warranty. Sure it's a hassle, but no one forced you to buy another one. Worst case, you'll have to pay shipping or a processing charge (I didn't), which is still cheaper than buying a new one.
3. "some things are in points so you don't know how much you are spending" A. I also think the point thing is stupid, but really? You can't figure out how much you're spending? It takes like 3 seconds to do the math in your head. (And again, not defending MS, but they "claimed" the point system was for international reasons, so the menus could be the same even with different currencies. Yeah, I know, whatever.)
4. "$90 a month to play online," "controllers for $90, games for $100" A. Where the hell are you getting these numbers? Your ass?
5. "and all the other stuff they seems to be an extra. inlcuding divx support, and non-windows share drives." A1. I have no idea what you're talking about here. 360 supports DivX. A2. Doesn't Windows have something like 90% market share in the home PC market? Even people that have a non-Windows machine also have a Windows machine. I would be shocked if MS wrote code for the 360 to connect to Mac or UNIX-based share drives. It's a rare delight when a company writes code to support it's competitors, and this is only Microsoft.
6. "xbox is for soccer moms" A. No, the 360 is for people that like to play games. Sure the PS3 may be a better machine, but where are the hot games? (It's almost as if it's a Blu-ray player that also happens to play games.) The game selection on the 360 is huge and diverse. I have yet to see a single game on the PS3 that would make me want to buy a PS3. 360 has maybe 3 or 4 titles a year that would make me want to buy a 360.
But other than all that, I agree with everything you said.
@Ender in regard to Sam's post: I think the $90 and $100 and other, the dudde is talking Australian Dollars, Not US Dollars, so i think you owe him an appology at least for asking if he's getting the numbers from his A$$...other than that you make some good poing and Sam's complaints are legit too.... JMHO
or you can pay 35 cents for 4 case fan screws $5 for thermal gel and spend 10 minutes on youtube to figure out how to fix your RRoD. Seriously my wife was able to fix her RRoD by watching the youtube and following directions.
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a few things to point out. xbox owners are getting screwed over by microsoft, that's a fact. just check the price of a 20gig hard drive (only 13gb useable FYI) and then the current wireless adapter is over $100 AUD, and they will only release this to the elite system because they are trying to sell another xbox to people or already own one, or after it has died with RROD (my xbox was twice RROD). the new xbox doesn't even ship with a HDMI cable - because they want you to buy the thing on its own for more money.
microsoft are refusing to answer questions or have send out a press release regarding hard drive size because they don't care, they are making too much money to worry about the news. so what if 54% die, they will sell you another one. because for some reason people want to buy something that will break again and again.
Like their online pricing, some things are in points so you don't know how much you are spending and then the new 'games on demand' are in dollar prices.
Microsoft will never learn until people stop buying the xbox, stop paying $90 a month to play online (which is free on the playstation), and refuse to buy the extras like wireless for $100 and HDMI cable for $40, controllers for $90, games for $100. and all the other stuff they seems to be an extra. inlcuding divx support, and non-windows share drives.
Do yourselves a favor, and buy ps3. it works, is now slim, has just a price cut, plays blu-ray, can have up to 7 players (an ice hockey team on the same console), has wireless built in, and you can change the hard drive yourself for any price you like (but comes with a 120gb now).
xbox is for soccer moms who have more money then sense, playstations are for people who like consoles that Just work out of the box.
Normally I don't comment to if there's a chance I'm gonna start a flame war (and especially not to defend Microsoft) but jesus sam, you're just wrong all over the place. Are you intentionally saying dumb things?
1. "they will only release this to the elite system because they are trying to sell another xbox"
A. It's USB dude, it'll work with any 360 model.
2. "so what if 54% die, they will sell you another one. because for some reason people want to buy something that will break again and again."
A. Yeah, the 360 has a horrible rate of failure. I'm on my 3rd one. Guess what, my other 2 were replaced for free via the warranty. Sure it's a hassle, but no one forced you to buy another one. Worst case, you'll have to pay shipping or a processing charge (I didn't), which is still cheaper than buying a new one.
3. "some things are in points so you don't know how much you are spending"
A. I also think the point thing is stupid, but really? You can't figure out how much you're spending? It takes like 3 seconds to do the math in your head. (And again, not defending MS, but they "claimed" the point system was for international reasons, so the menus could be the same even with different currencies. Yeah, I know, whatever.)
4. "$90 a month to play online," "controllers for $90, games for $100"
A. Where the hell are you getting these numbers? Your ass?
5. "and all the other stuff they seems to be an extra. inlcuding divx support, and non-windows share drives."
A1. I have no idea what you're talking about here. 360 supports DivX.
A2. Doesn't Windows have something like 90% market share in the home PC market? Even people that have a non-Windows machine also have a Windows machine. I would be shocked if MS wrote code for the 360 to connect to Mac or UNIX-based share drives. It's a rare delight when a company writes code to support it's competitors, and this is only Microsoft.
6. "xbox is for soccer moms"
A. No, the 360 is for people that like to play games. Sure the PS3 may be a better machine, but where are the hot games? (It's almost as if it's a Blu-ray player that also happens to play games.) The game selection on the 360 is huge and diverse. I have yet to see a single game on the PS3 that would make me want to buy a PS3. 360 has maybe 3 or 4 titles a year that would make me want to buy a 360.
But other than all that, I agree with everything you said.
@Ender
"I have yet to see a single game on the PS3 that would make me want to buy a PS3"
I was with you right up until this line. Go play Little Big Planet.
@Ender in regard to Sam's post:
I think the $90 and $100 and other, the dudde is talking Australian Dollars, Not US Dollars, so i think you owe him an appology at least for asking if he's getting the numbers from his A$$...other than that you make some good poing and Sam's complaints are legit too....
JMHO
or you can pay 35 cents for 4 case fan screws $5 for thermal gel and spend 10 minutes on youtube to figure out how to fix your RRoD. Seriously my wife was able to fix her RRoD by watching the youtube and following directions.
$90 to play online? Is this misinformation necessary?
$40 for HDMI? People who pay that deserve to get fracked. Monoprice is your friend.
its 90 dollars in monopoly money, not Australian.